Harper- will he stay or will he go -
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Don't read too much into polls this far out, polls are a snapshot in time.
I do think Harper will continue for some time yet but I don't think he will
contest the next election. I have said before this started he would be on
the front bench when the next writ is dropped
I do think Harper will continue for some time yet but I don't think he will
contest the next election. I have said before this started he would be on
the front bench when the next writ is dropped
It would be nice, though, to see him hang in there until Trudeau Jr. and Mulcair decide on other careers!
Well as the RCMP dig deeper, more Senators, staffers and such will be interviewed.
Marjory LeBreton comes to mind.
Ian Brodie a former Chief of Staff could as well. Would show how the PMO works, how well the PMO and PM were involved- briefed.
Now the Duffy Senator Auditors are getting a grilling.
This fellow may make an appearance for information- Of course with the best legal advice beside him- I would have the same as well.
Canada’s ‘best political fundraiser’ is about to emerge from the backroom: Did he try to sway the Senate audit? | National Post
Marjory LeBreton comes to mind.
Ian Brodie a former Chief of Staff could as well. Would show how the PMO works, how well the PMO and PM were involved- briefed.
Now the Duffy Senator Auditors are getting a grilling.
This fellow may make an appearance for information- Of course with the best legal advice beside him- I would have the same as well.
Canada’s ‘best political fundraiser’ is about to emerge from the backroom: Did he try to sway the Senate audit? | National Post
How do you say that with a straight face and a mouthful of Justine's jizz.
I am very doubtful that this will touch the Prime Minister.
I tend to agree with Mentalfloss, as crazy as that is.
Proof for a jury or proof for the public to believe. 2 differing standards. And has Harper has shown he is to put it mildly in control down to talking points for MP's who are no more than lapdogs. Where Canadian Ambassadors must have permission to speak on issues. Required to have the PMO's approval before farting.
What does that speak to?
The public does not need evidence that stands up in court- substantial circumstantial can also be linked in the public mind and be detrimental to Harper.
Interesting article on Duffy and how he set up Wright and the Cons.
Andrew Coyne: Nigel Wright a victim of Mike Duffy ‘bait and switch’ ploy | National Post
And then we have the safe Conservative seat in Manitoba.
Could be a close race.
The Cons won it last time with 64% of the vote- Libs 5 % -
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/1...ns-2013-liberals-conservatives_n_4241137.html
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...tephen-harper-an-electoral-liability-in-west/
http://www.threehundredeight.com/
What people are really pissed at is the loss of the penny. That is why the government is unpopular now. Ever since they got rid of the penny things have gone bad for them.
Well this old saying is now toast-
Got a nickel pay raise one year and they told me I was worth every penny.
Conjecture and assumption. Without a direct link to the PM the senate scandal will not have long term effects on the Conservatives. It's a devil you know type situation.
Are we back to attending human rights meeting or is that a boycotted thing forever now? There must be a vid out of Harper saying we now want to attend also after boycotting the last two that Israel also intentionally missed. Good for them if they are earnes, that they confiscated a bunch more of Jerusalem and the West Bank means it is the same old story so far. I really want to see where Canada backtracks though, one of the hall-marks of our history.
Stephen Harper cancels Sri Lanka visit over human rights violations | Toronto Star
Ending boycott, Israel to attend UN human rights hearing | The Times of Israel
October 27, 2013, 11:26 pm
Little searching and it looks unlikely we will be back there anytime soon, I feel like I need to clean something off my hands.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...nto-missing-aboriginal-women/article14870214/
Published Tuesday, Oct. 15 2013, 3:23 PM EDT
UN human rights investigator says Canada needs inquiry into missing aboriginal women
Stephen Harper cancels Sri Lanka visit over human rights violations | Toronto Star
Ending boycott, Israel to attend UN human rights hearing | The Times of Israel
October 27, 2013, 11:26 pm
Little searching and it looks unlikely we will be back there anytime soon, I feel like I need to clean something off my hands.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...nto-missing-aboriginal-women/article14870214/
Published Tuesday, Oct. 15 2013, 3:23 PM EDT
UN human rights investigator says Canada needs inquiry into missing aboriginal women
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Andrew Coyne: There’s no spinning it — the Conservatives were spanked in Monday’s byelections | National Post
If you were determined to be obtuse about it, you could look at the results of Monday’s byelections and say: nothing changed. The Tories held onto their two seats in the West, the Liberals held onto theirs in Ontario and Quebec. Move along folks, no story here.
In private, I can assure you, no one in any of the parties does this. Only in the public realm do they say things like “a win’s a win” — which is what you say when a win looks a lot like a loss — and only the most programmed partisans actually mean it.
Only in the most literal sense is the Tories’ 391-vote margin in Brandon-Souris, one of the safest Conservative seats in the country, a “win.” Even the partisans found this hard to say with a straight face. Rather, they were obliged first to pretend that a Forum Research poll showing the Liberals ahead by 29 points the weekend before the election had some basis in reality, the better to conjure up a fantasy “comeback.”
But there’s just no spinning this one. The trends are too pronounced. Across all four ridings, the Tory vote was down 11 points versus the 2011 election, from 39% to 28%, almost exactly mirroring the national polls. The NDP, which might have been expected to gain the most from the Tories’ disfavour — when you consider how well Tom Mulcair has been performing in Parliament — instead dropped five points overall, while the Liberals surged 18 points.
If the drop in the Tory vote was the night’s main story, the rise in the Liberals’ was the other. In Provencher and Brandon-Souris, the Grits blew past the NDP to become the Tories’ main rivals, taking as many votes from the left as they did from the right. In Toronto Centre and Bourassa, they increased their margins of victory, even in the face of spirited challenges from the NDP. Conservative candidates in the East both lost their deposits, as NDP candidates did in the West. Only the Liberals were up across the board.
If you were determined to be obtuse about it, you could look at the results of Monday’s byelections and say: nothing changed. The Tories held onto their two seats in the West, the Liberals held onto theirs in Ontario and Quebec. Move along folks, no story here.
In private, I can assure you, no one in any of the parties does this. Only in the public realm do they say things like “a win’s a win” — which is what you say when a win looks a lot like a loss — and only the most programmed partisans actually mean it.
Only in the most literal sense is the Tories’ 391-vote margin in Brandon-Souris, one of the safest Conservative seats in the country, a “win.” Even the partisans found this hard to say with a straight face. Rather, they were obliged first to pretend that a Forum Research poll showing the Liberals ahead by 29 points the weekend before the election had some basis in reality, the better to conjure up a fantasy “comeback.”
But there’s just no spinning this one. The trends are too pronounced. Across all four ridings, the Tory vote was down 11 points versus the 2011 election, from 39% to 28%, almost exactly mirroring the national polls. The NDP, which might have been expected to gain the most from the Tories’ disfavour — when you consider how well Tom Mulcair has been performing in Parliament — instead dropped five points overall, while the Liberals surged 18 points.
If the drop in the Tory vote was the night’s main story, the rise in the Liberals’ was the other. In Provencher and Brandon-Souris, the Grits blew past the NDP to become the Tories’ main rivals, taking as many votes from the left as they did from the right. In Toronto Centre and Bourassa, they increased their margins of victory, even in the face of spirited challenges from the NDP. Conservative candidates in the East both lost their deposits, as NDP candidates did in the West. Only the Liberals were up across the board.
Appears to be a lot of people involved. Ah, I smell CC charges in the air.
Perhaps they can get a group rate. Usually can when on a long term lease.
I stated this had legs-
Harper confidante Senator Carolyn Stewart Olsen’s statement on Duffy audit ‘not consistent with facts’: RCMP | National Post
Consider, if you will, that Sen. Carolyn Stewart Olsen, long one of Stephen Harper’s closest aides, gave an interview to RCMP officers in which she said several things that they suggest appear to be untrue.
Two Mounties interviewed Stewart Olsen back on June 21, a day after they released court documents outlining their investigation to that point. They were then looking into alleged breaches of trust by Conservative senators Mike Duffy and Patrick Brazeau and then-Liberal senator Mac Harb.
Olsen, therefore, may not have known that the Mounties were also investigating Nigel Wright’s $90,000 payment to Duffy, which the RCMP say was illegal and which Wright says was not. She may have had no idea that Wright would give the police two binders of emails, and that they would ultimately review 250,000 emails from the prime minister’s office.
Whatever she thought, what she told them was that she and other Tory senators handled an audit into senators’ expenses without input from the prime minister’s office. She told the Mounties that she only recalled “communicating with Nigel Wright on one occasion, at a meeting at the end of April 2013, to provide an update on the audit process.”The RCMP’s email record, though, shows that she was often exchanging emails with Wright and other officials in the PMO, that she was implementing their instructions.
She told the police: “No one gave her direction or orders to change the Senate Report.”
On March 1, though, the RCMP says, she sent Wright an email pledging fealty and complaining at being out of the loop: “Hi Nigel, just a quick note to say that I am always ready to do exactly what is asked but it would have been a great help to know in advance what the strategy was.”
Perhaps they can get a group rate. Usually can when on a long term lease.
I stated this had legs-
Harper confidante Senator Carolyn Stewart Olsen’s statement on Duffy audit ‘not consistent with facts’: RCMP | National Post
Consider, if you will, that Sen. Carolyn Stewart Olsen, long one of Stephen Harper’s closest aides, gave an interview to RCMP officers in which she said several things that they suggest appear to be untrue.
Two Mounties interviewed Stewart Olsen back on June 21, a day after they released court documents outlining their investigation to that point. They were then looking into alleged breaches of trust by Conservative senators Mike Duffy and Patrick Brazeau and then-Liberal senator Mac Harb.
Olsen, therefore, may not have known that the Mounties were also investigating Nigel Wright’s $90,000 payment to Duffy, which the RCMP say was illegal and which Wright says was not. She may have had no idea that Wright would give the police two binders of emails, and that they would ultimately review 250,000 emails from the prime minister’s office.
Whatever she thought, what she told them was that she and other Tory senators handled an audit into senators’ expenses without input from the prime minister’s office. She told the Mounties that she only recalled “communicating with Nigel Wright on one occasion, at a meeting at the end of April 2013, to provide an update on the audit process.”The RCMP’s email record, though, shows that she was often exchanging emails with Wright and other officials in the PMO, that she was implementing their instructions.
She told the police: “No one gave her direction or orders to change the Senate Report.”
On March 1, though, the RCMP says, she sent Wright an email pledging fealty and complaining at being out of the loop: “Hi Nigel, just a quick note to say that I am always ready to do exactly what is asked but it would have been a great help to know in advance what the strategy was.”
Yeah, we are kind of caught between a rock and a hard place. We DON'T need Mulcair at the helm and Trudeau Jr. is a recipe for disaster, unfortunately the demographics of the electorate aren't the same as in 1968 when the fatal mistake of voting in Trudeau Sr. occurred. Probably better to stick with what we have for a little while or until he decides to increase taxes.
