Harper and Rae pile on as Mulcair’s dual citizenship raises eyebrows

lone wolf

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In all seriousness, I can see leaving the door open for persons of questionable loyalty to hold the highest of offices to be a dangerous thing. Politicians can be very glib individuals who can fool the brightest of folk into believing they are saviour, conquerer and all around nice guy. Heck, they'd even fib about ties back home. I have no issue with France. I don't suspect Canada has either. Where that open door could become a problem is if you give someone whose true loyalties rest with a nation who will stop at nothing for global domination the job. Do you suppose potash, lumber or oil would be Canadian if the PM's heart lives in China (f'rinstance NP's)

It's not an issue of dual citizenship. It's an issue about crooks with power....
 

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It's not an issue of dual citizenship. It's an issue about crooks with power....

Then you have to look at that candidate's resume and history with the other state.

If his record is clean, you can't and shouldn't make an assumption about his culpability on the basis of citizenship alone.
 

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No.... I'm suggesting a door be closed BEFORE the opening has a chance to be exploited.

In the insurance industry you need to substantiate your risk on probable cause. No one has been able to prove a risk for exploitation simply on the basis of dual citizenship.

It's insane.

It's like our version of questioning Obama's birth certificate, lol
 
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lone wolf

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In the insurance industry you need to substantiate your risk on probable cause. No one has been able to prove a risk for exploitation simply on the basis of dual citizenship.

It's insane.

It's like our version of questioning Obama's birth certificate, lol
If I can dream up the scenario, you can bet someone less trustworthy and with more influence can....
 

lone wolf

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With Mulcair, maybe.

Do you think that everyone on the planet plays by the same code of honour?

Note: New paragraph just so it's not assumed I'm referring to Harper's version of honour.
 

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With Mulcair, maybe.

One has to ask why though?

I understand that we all have an inherent distrust for politicians. But is the public really that gullible to be sold on an unproven uncertainty?

Especially when there is even evidence or .. logic.. that would posit otherwise?
 

lone wolf

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When you're the yardstick you measure others by?

I believe Mulcair's dual citizenship is a non-issue. All the same, I distrust leaving an open door to the potential for divided loyalty - or worse.
 

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All the same, I distrust leaving an open door to the potential for divided loyalty - or worse.

I don't think there's much to worry about.

Anything specifically a dual-citizen leader can wreak havoc on us with?
 

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"Whether Canada ends up as o­ne national government or two national governments or several national governments, or some other kind of arrangement is, quite frankly, secondary in my opinion… And whether Canada ends up with o­ne national government or two governments or ten governments, the Canadian people will require less government no matter what the constitutional status or arrangement of any future country may be."
- On Canada, Steven Harper, 1994.

"Now I know it’s unfashionable to refer to colonialism in anything other than negative terms. And certainly, no part of the world is unscarred by the excesses of empires. But in the Canadian context, the actions of the British Empire were largely benign and occasionally brilliant...This genius for governance shown by the mother country at the time no doubt explains in part why Canada’s path to independence was so long, patient and peaceful."
- On Canada, Steven, 2006

"This party will not take its position based on public opinion polls. We will not take a stand based o­n focus groups. We will not take a stand based o­n phone-in shows or householder surveys or any other vagaries of public opinion… In my judgment Canada will eventually join with the allied coalition if war on Iraq comes to pass. The government will join, notwithstanding its failure to prepare, its neglect in co-operating with its allies, or its inability to contribute. In the end it will join out of the necessity created by a pattern of uncertainty and indecision. It will not join as a leader but unnoticed at the back of the parade."
- 2003

You’ve got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society."
-2001

No divided loyalties here.
 

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Dual citizen - or smokescreen loyalty?
How come before Iggy and the conservatives using it as a weapon against their opponents, this was never even on the public agenda? It never was an issue until the last year or two, now it is like opening Pandora's box. To me this is just another divide and conquer tactic and a slight of hand to get people looking over there. Harper's puppet masters can afford the very best PR slime buckets.
 

lone wolf

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I'm thinking Harper knows where his loyalties lay - and it's not with the work-a-day Joe. I'd always assumed a Canadian Prime Minister had to be Canadian. It still doesn't make him/her worthy of trust - just one less thing to watch out for.
 

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I'm thinking Harper knows where his loyalties lay - and it's not with the work-a-day Joe. I'd always assumed a Canadian Prime Minister had to be Canadian. It still doesn't make him/her worthy of trust - just one less thing to watch out for.

They dont, they never had to be and those who haven't been haven't done any worse than those who were just Canadian.