Harper and Rae pile on as Mulcair’s dual citizenship raises eyebrows

[CDNBear]

Yes, and before your ultimate fury, that's where this thread was at.

"ultimate fury"? Your perception skills are very poor. For future reference, "ultimate fury would be akin to your "Go kill yourself" evening. That kind of meltdown is the ultimate in fury.

Carry on.

Amazing how the 'usual suspects' draw the most definitive lines on one's party affiliation and will defend to the death why candidate 'X' is better than 'Y' on that basis, but apparently no problem on the candidate's nation that they choose to call home.

Unless the candidate isn't one they endorse.

My opinion?

Yes, it is necessary.

Reason: Conflict of interests be they real, imagined, possible or perceived.

Bingo.

 

[mentalfloss]

Reason: Conflict of interests be they real, imagined, possible or perceived.

So, someone could just imagine something a leader could do with that power, and it would be enough for you to say it's not worth the vote?

 

[captain morgan]

So, someone could just imagine something a leader could do with that power, and it would be enough for you to say it's not worth the vote?

How do you think that people (read: the electorate) really make their decisions MF?

 

[CDNBear]

So, someone could just imagine something a leader could do with that power, and it would be enough for you to say it's not worth the vote?

We don't vote for the PM in Canada. Unless you live in his/her riding.

Not that the NDP has a candidate or platform worth voting for.

 

[mentalfloss]

How do you think that people (read: the electorate) really make their decisions MF?

I understand what you mean, but what you're basically saying is that your decision would be based on a hypothetical outcome.

And so, if we fast forwarded to the next election, irrespective of any other issues.. what would be the hypothetical disaster coming from a candidate's dual citizenship that would scare you away from voting for them?

 

[captain morgan]

I understand what you mean, but what you're basically saying is that your decision would be based on a hypothetical outcome.

It already is based on hypotheticals... "Vote for me and I will...."

It's all hypothetical until such time that it transforms into fact.

And so, if we fast forwarded to the next election, irrespective of any other issues.. what would be the hypothetical disaster coming from a candidate's dual citizenship that would scare you away from voting for them?

Divided loyalties.

This is the same basic logic that dictates why soldiers in a nation's army must be citizens of that nation, outsiders that do this aren't called soldiers, they are referred to as mercenaries.

 

[CDNBear]

I understand what you mean, but what you're basically saying is that your decision would be based on a hypothetical outcome.

As Captain pointed out... Vote for me and....

And so, if we fast forwarded to the next election, irrespective of any other issues.. what would be the hypothetical disaster coming from a candidate's dual citizenship that would scare you away from voting for them?

Ah yes...

A tactic used by many on this very board. When you can't argue on the merits of your position, swing it to something you think you can.

I can see why you would think that's OK.

Carry on.

 

[SLM]

I understand what you mean, but what you're basically saying is that your decision would be based on a hypothetical outcome.

And so, if we fast forwarded to the next election, irrespective of any other issues.. what would be the hypothetical disaster coming from a candidate's dual citizenship that would scare you away from voting for them?

Let me ask you this. Should a member of parliament give up control in a private business that conducts business with the Federal government, and if so, why?

It already is based on hypotheticals... "Vote for me and I will...."

It's all hypothetical until such time that it transforms into fact.



Divided loyalties.

This is the same basic logic that dictates why soldiers in a nation's army must be citizens of that nation, outsiders that do this aren't called soldiers, they are referred to as mercenaries.

Bingo!

 

[mentalfloss]

Divided loyalties.

Yes, but this is just rhetoric.

To understand the actual consequence of these 'divided loyalties', we need to know what a leader would do with that sort of power.

I'm no expert, so I defer to others who seem to be so certain on this topic.

What could a dual-citizenship leader do with his "divided loyalty" which could harm the country he is leading?

 

[CDNBear]

What could a dual-citizenship leader do with his "divided loyalty" which could harm the country he is leading?

Depends on where his loyalties lie.

 

[captain morgan]

To understand the actual consequence of these 'divided loyalties', we need to know what a leader would do with that sort of power.

I don't need to wonder what will happen if I throw a hair dryer into the bath whilst having a soak; I already know what the consequence will be.

To be honest, and this doesn't have to do so much with Mulcair, but I baffles me that you can't get your head around the obvious conflict that this arrangement might represent.

You may not have never poked a stick in a hornets nest, but I'd wager that you can imagine the possible spectrum of consequences, this really is not so different.

Depends on where his loyalties lie.

Clearly, he thinks highly enough of 2 nations to maintain loyalties to both.

 

[Machjo]

I don't need to wonder what will happen if I throw a hair dryer into the bath whilst having a soak; I already know what the consequence will be.

To be honest, and this doesn't have to do so much with Mulcair, but I baffles me that you can't get your head around the obvious conflict that this arrangement might represent.

You may not have never poked a stick in a hornets nest, but I'd wager that you can imagine the possible spectrum of consequences, this really is not so different.



Clearly, he thinks highly enough of 2 nations to maintain loyalties to both.

Are you saying one must look down on other nations before he can think highly of his own?

It is possible to love more than one nation, and still love both more than many people love one.

 

[captain morgan]

Are you saying one must look down on other nations before he can think highly of his own?

No

It is possible to love more than one nation, and still love both more than many people love one.

It's possible to love more than one woman at the same time too.... The consequences of which are dire.

 

[Cliffy]

Too funny. Supporters of Lego Man are afraid of a guy with dual citizenship who has zero possibility of become PM, think that their hero, (as an American friend called) an ass kissing American wannabe who is selling out our sovereignty, can do no wrong because he only has one citizenship.

 

[SLM]

Are you saying one must look down on other nations before he can think highly of his own?

Why would making a citizenship choice necessarily mean that one is looking down on another nation? Seems to be a really negative outlook.

It's possible to love more than one woman at the same time too.... The consequences of which are dire.

Depends on whether you act on or not.

 

[CDNBear]

Too funny. Supporters of Lego Man are afraid of a guy with dual citizenship who has zero possibility of become PM, think that their hero, (as an American friend called) an ass kissing American wannabe who is selling out our sovereignty, can do no wrong because he only has one citizenship.

Are you prone to these delusions often?

 

[SLM]

Are you prone to these delusions often?

Acid flashback maybe?

But you gotta admit, the PM does have lego man hair. The resemblance is kinda eerie.

 

[CDNBear]

Acid flashback maybe?

But you gotta admit, the PM does have lego man hair. The resemblance is kinda eerie.

No doubt, and a media produced personality to match.

But i still get a kick out of the accusation that it's all based on the adoration of Harper, as apposed to patriotic or nationalistic tendencies.

 

[Cliffy]

Are you prone to these delusions often?

Delusional always depends on who is doing the observing.

 

[captain morgan]

Depends on whether you act on or not.

That was the specific implication.

You know - Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.