What makes you think that Middle Eastern Muslin [sic] nations are, or should be, in solidarity?
Hamas attacks Israel
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Toilets are full & the copper stripped out?
If they aren’t, then Canada doesn’t have to commit to taking any then…or at least the ones Hamas vets for export anyway as everything from Gaza is regulated through their fingers.
Gazan children in Canada offered controversial curriculum by Palestinian Authority
'This curriculum has been widely condemned for spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories and hate, rejecting a two-state solution,' CIJA said
By their words & not their actions?
You mean. . . Middle Eastern governments lie and bullshit?Toilets are full & the copper stripped out?
If they aren’t, then Canada doesn’t have to commit to taking any then…or at least the ones Hamas vets for export anyway as everything from Gaza is regulated through their fingers.
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Gazan children in Canada offered controversial curriculum by Palestinian Authority
'This curriculum has been widely condemned for spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories and hate, rejecting a two-state solution,' CIJA saidnationalpost.com
By their words & not their actions?
Oh, dearie me! I'm glad I live in a nation that would NEVER do that!
You know, “Solidarity for Palestinian! (But, you know, over there)!!!”
I guess they think Palestinians & Palestine already have their own land, once Israel is gone.
Here’s a Palestine map courtesy of UNRWA or whatever….plus it’s much less of a security threat to other Middle Eastern countries if Palestinians are, you know, over there.
"Family Reunification". In other words "fast tracking the pre-existing family sponsorship program".Toilets are full & the copper stripped out?
If they aren’t, then Canada doesn’t have to commit to taking any then…or at least the ones Hamas vets for export anyway as everything from Gaza is regulated through their fingers.
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Gazan children in Canada offered controversial curriculum by Palestinian Authority
'This curriculum has been widely condemned for spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories and hate, rejecting a two-state solution,' CIJA said
By their words & not their actions?
For clarity on my point further above.
Gaza
In 2017, 66.1% of the population of the Gaza Strip were refugees. As of November 2024, the UN estimated that around 90% of Gaza's population has been displaced due to the ongoing conflict.
West Bank
In 2017, 26.3% of the population of the West Bank were refugees. The West Bank has 19 official and four unofficial refugee camps, and 741,409 registered refugees.
Who made them leave and from where?
Yes, who? Who made them leave & from where? Same with the Jews from the same timeframe you’re alluding to?
I assumed you’d go back to pre-UNRWA times…& pre-Zionirael, to that round of the goat rodeo, but, dealers choice!!
I gave current numbers.
Are illegal settlers still illegally settling and bulldozing villages and farms in West Bank?
Yes, so expect the number to keep rising and more going violent after violence on them.
Its a cycle without an end unless....
The Middle East is a cycle without end.
I must apologize in advance because I try to keep videos that I post to five minutes or less duration…with seven pushing the boundaries, & eleven being by for an exception unless it’s chalk full of important stuff. This next video is almost 38 minutes long….So I really don’t expect anybody to watch it.
The boiled down summary is, the people that live there didn’t choose the placement of the borders, then the locations of oilfields exasperated the situation.
Its like wiping your ass with a hula hoop.
Why did Europe want them gone and Nor Am refuse them as well? What was going on that made them not chosen?
Hamas called on all components of Palestinian society to mobilize in order to confront the Palestinian Authority’s (PA) “unprecedented” level of “aggression” against it and other terror groups in the West Bank, the terror group confirmed in a Friday press release.
In the statement, Hamas accused PA security forces of brutally coercing the Palestinian public into supporting its recent crackdown on West Bank terror groups.
Hamas regularly faces accusations regarding its own abuse against Palestinians. A September New York Times article highlighted Palestinian activists and whistleblowers in Gaza who complained of the brutal treatment they faced for speaking out against the terror group. In November, the IDF also released a 45-minute video exposing Hamas beating and torturing Palestinians.
No idea. The statement comes amid an ongoing PA counter-terror campaign in the West Bank, particularly in Jenin, which has seen a number of clashes between PA security forces and local insurgents.
Palestinian 'social fabric' tearing: Hamas calls for mobilization against Palestinian Authority — The Jerusalem Post
Hamas accused PA security forces of brutally coercing the Palestinian public into supporting its recent crackdown on West Bank terror groups.
The terror organization urged Palestinians to oppose the PA’s counter-terror actions, stating that such opposition was necessary to prevent Palestinian society from splintering.
The latest escalation in tensions between Hamas and the Fatah-headed Palestinian Authority came only months after Fatah and Hamas agreed to form a unity government as part of the Bejing Declaration.
The agreement between Fatah and Hamas was condemned by then-Foreign Minister Israel Katz who claimed, “Instead of rejecting terrorism, [PA President] Mahmoud Abbas embraces the murderers and rapists of Hamas, revealing his true face. In reality, this won’t happen because Hamas’s rule will be crushed, and Abbas will be watching Gaza from afar. Israel’s security will remain solely in Israel’s hands.”
This is not the first time Fatah's attempts to jointly rule with Hamas have failed as Hamas expelled Fatah following a failed coalition government in 2007.
So is it still genocide when one gang of muslim terrorists kills members of another gang of muslim terrorists?Hamas called on all components of Palestinian society to mobilize in order to confront the Palestinian Authority’s (PA) “unprecedented” level of “aggression” against it and other terror groups in the West Bank, the terror group confirmed in a Friday press release.
In the statement, Hamas accused PA security forces of brutally coercing the Palestinian public into supporting its recent crackdown on West Bank terror groups.
Hamas regularly faces accusations regarding its own abuse against Palestinians. A September New York Times article highlighted Palestinian activists and whistleblowers in Gaza who complained of the brutal treatment they faced for speaking out against the terror group. In November, the IDF also released a 45-minute video exposing Hamas beating and torturing Palestinians.
No idea. The statement comes amid an ongoing PA counter-terror campaign in the West Bank, particularly in Jenin, which has seen a number of clashes between PA security forces and local insurgents.
Hamas claimed the PA had engaged in “beating and humiliating citizens, pursuing women and young people, and forcing them under threat to give statements or write posts” in support of the Authority’s effort.
Palestinian 'social fabric' tearing: Hamas calls for mobilization against Palestinian Authority — The Jerusalem Post
Hamas accused PA security forces of brutally coercing the Palestinian public into supporting its recent crackdown on West Bank terror groups.apple.news
The terror organization urged Palestinians to oppose the PA’s counter-terror actions, stating that such opposition was necessary to prevent Palestinian society from splintering.
The latest escalation in tensions between Hamas and the Fatah-headed Palestinian Authority came only months after Fatah and Hamas agreed to form a unity government as part of the Bejing Declaration.
The agreement between Fatah and Hamas was condemned by then-Foreign Minister Israel Katz who claimed, “Instead of rejecting terrorism, [PA President] Mahmoud Abbas embraces the murderers and rapists of Hamas, revealing his true face. In reality, this won’t happen because Hamas’s rule will be crushed, and Abbas will be watching Gaza from afar. Israel’s security will remain solely in Israel’s hands.”
This is not the first time Fatah's attempts to jointly rule with Hamas have failed as Hamas expelled Fatah following a failed coalition government in 2007.
It can be.
"Genocide" is a deliberate attempt to wipe out a people as a people. It doesn't mean "killing a lot of folks." It needn't even involve much killing at all. It's the attempt to wipe out a culture. That's why kidnapping little kids into "schools," cutting their hair, and beating them if they spoke their own language WAS genocide, and lighting up atomic bombs over two cities wasn't.
I'm not even sure what a "Palestinian" is. Insofar as it's a culture of its own, it seems to exist in Gaza, the West Bank, and Jordan. So, no, I don't think an effort to shift the Gazans to the east (ironically where the "West Bank" is) constitutes genocide. That's debatable, though, because the Genocide Convention includes "mass movement."
What do you think?
I honestly don’t know what to think, so I’m going with my gut, & the “What will the world say/think 50-100yrs from now?” thing here too. There’s so many twists & turns in this whole goat rodeo.
I do know that after the 1948 war, when Jordan (formerly Trans-Jordan, which was formerly to that part of the land that was to be split between Israel & the Arabs in that neighbourhood) annexed the West Bank, & Egypt moved on into Gaza, Palestine didn’t happen…so it seems pretty hypocritical now that either one would be arguing for a two state solution based upon pre-1967 borders, or 1967 borders based upon the 1947 Armistice Lines…or whatever.
If the Pre-1967 or 1967 borders or whatever was an acceptable thing, why was there a war again in 1967?
If Israel didn’t take the “West Bank” away from Jordan (formerly Trans-Jordan for example), would the “West Bank” still be the chunk of Jordan on the “West Bank” of the River Jordan from Jordan?
I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be Palestine. I’m also pretty sure the UN & UNRWA will keep Palestine culture alive in the refugee camps they’ve established into perpetuity because it’s to the UN/UNRWA’s advantage.
I do know that after the 1948 war, when Jordan (formerly Trans-Jordan, which was formerly to that part of the land that was to be split between Israel & the Arabs in that neighbourhood) annexed the West Bank, & Egypt moved on into Gaza, Palestine didn’t happen…so it seems pretty hypocritical now that either one would be arguing for a two state solution based upon pre-1967 borders, or 1967 borders based upon the 1947 Armistice Lines…or whatever.
If the Pre-1967 or 1967 borders or whatever was an acceptable thing, why was there a war again in 1967?
I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be Palestine. I’m also pretty sure the UN & UNRWA will keep Palestine culture alive in the refugee camps they’ve established into perpetuity because it’s to the UN/UNRWA’s advantage.
Hard to say, and I'm as lost as you are.
But in the here-and-now, I'm good with "Israel is justified in protecting its people and eliminating threats to its people. In so doing, they must obey the laws of war. Or lose their support from the civilised world."
But in the here-and-now, I'm good with "Israel is justified in protecting its people and eliminating threats to its people. In so doing, they must obey the laws of war. Or lose their support from the civilised world."
(Weird question, because there’s so many examples of differences in spelling of the English language between American and Canadian/Brittish…is civilised an Americanization of civilized in Canadian/Brittish English?)
Anyway, for Israel to exist in that neighbourhood (or neighborhood), if it had to based upon 1967 borders (the first 1/2 of 1967, not the second half of 1967), is that even militarily possible with the current state of modern weaponry??
Anyway, for Israel to exist in that neighbourhood (or neighborhood), if it had to based upon 1967 borders (the first 1/2 of 1967, not the second half of 1967), is that even militarily possible with the current state of modern weaponry??