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Zionism is the reason Israel was attacked on Oct 7 after attacks by Zionist extremists on West Bank and parts of Jerusalem skyrocket in the two years after Bibi and Otzma Yehudit extremists took the reigns. Prior to Bibi things were far better for both parties. Those same extremists who latched on the Bibi are the ones who offed Yitzhak Rabin who was ready to sign off on the two state solution.

These asshole only want a final solution.

All you need to do is listen to them.
 

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Zionism is the reason Israel was attacked on Oct 7 after attacks by Zionist extremists on West Bank and parts of Jerusalem skyrocket in the two years after Bibi and Otzma Yehudit extremists took the reigns. Prior to Bibi things were far better for both parties. Those same extremists who latched on the Bibi are the ones who offed Yitzhak Rabin who was ready to sign off on the two state solution.

These asshole only want a final solution.

All you need to do is listen to them.
Oh yes. It had nothing to do with the timing of Saudi Arabia about to sign on for normalization of relations with Israel, & Iran feeling threatened that it’s competitor in the region might usurp its role of influence…so an Iranian proxy (then another one, then another other one) all attacked Israel before Saudi Arabia could sign on?

Gotta be Zionists in Ziosrael that determined the antagonism between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Jews Israelis Zionists are sneaky that way. Meh…
 
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Oh yes. It had nothing to do with the timing of Saudi Arabia about to sign on for normalization of relations with Israel, & Iran feeling threatened that it’s competitor in the region might you usurp its role of influence…so an Iranian proxy (then another one, then another other one) all attacked Israel before Saudi Arabia could sign on?

Gotta be Zionists in Ziosrael that determined the antagonism between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Jews Israelis Zionists are sneaky that way. Meh…
Of course not. There is exactly ONE, single cause for anything that happens.
 
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Oh yes. It had nothing to do with the timing of Saudi Arabia about to sign on for normalization of relations with Israel, & Iran feeling threatened that it’s competitor in the region might usurp its role of influence…so an Iranian proxy (then another one, then another other one) all attacked Israel before Saudi Arabia could sign on?

Gotta be Zionists in Ziosrael that determined the antagonism between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Jews Israelis Zionists are sneaky that way. Meh…
Do you still insist all Zionists think alike?

Do the Moderates who were on the brink of a civil war against extremists on Oct 6th not like Saudi Arabia?

Explain. Was Iran backing the Moderates?
 

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Report: Iran Recruiting Minors to Attack Jewish, Israeli Targets in Europe, Nordic Security Services Say

According to Bloomberg, Iranian proxies are recruiting youths via social media, with some motivated by frustration over the war, while others, driven by financial gain, 'have no idea what they're signing up for'

Haaretz
Dec 21, 2024

Swedish and Norwegian security services have highlighted a new trend by Iranian affiliates to recruit minors in order....

Somolie gangs. Quite problematic in Sweden.
 

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Do you still insist all Zionists think alike?
I don’t. I don’t use or hide behind the term, so I’ve never insisted that all “Zionists” think alike. I just see it as a code word for “Jews” or “Israelis” and not much more.

The “Israelis” living in Israel would by definition be Zionists, or they wouldn’t live there, but elsewhere.
Do the Moderates who were on the brink of a civil war against extremists on Oct 6th not like Saudi Arabia?

Explain. Was Iran backing the Moderates?
Why? You think it’s all a “Zionist” conspiracy so you explain it. I’ll pass.

Iran (Shiite) & Saudi Arabia (Sunni) are competing in the region for power/influence, economically & religiously. If I was going to explain/debate this, it would be along this line of thought.

Israel & it’s predominantly Jewish population are just a thorn in the arse of Islam (both Shiites & Sunnis & other subsets there of), and neither wants the other to get an advantage by normalizing relations with that nation.
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Israel isn’t exactly crowding out Islam, so that’s not it, & it isn’t threatening to drown (my use of this term is not an accident) out Islam in the real estate department, so that’s not it. Assumably it’s something else then, & I really don’t think either Saudi Arabia or Iran give two shits about the “Palestinians” (they’re both large nations so either/or could take in many Palestinians if they did care), so that’s probably not it either ((Zionist conspiracies aside)).
Report: Iran Recruiting Minors to Attack Jewish, Israeli Targets in Europe, Nordic Security Services Say

According to Bloomberg, Iranian proxies are recruiting youths via social media, with some motivated by frustration over the war, while others, driven by financial gain, 'have no idea what they're signing up for'

Haaretz
Dec 21, 2024

Swedish and Norwegian security services have highlighted a new trend by Iranian affiliates to recruit minors in order....

Somolie gangs. Quite problematic in Sweden.
Huh…so this isn’t just a regional thing about the Israelis Zionists in Israel then? How strange. Perhaps Iran will face its own civil war in the next six months leading to peace (or more peaceful) in other places that Iran is trying to influence currently?
 

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It's not code for Jew. I'm a Zionist. I support Israel existence but I do not support the fucking radicals who want expansion or an all Jewish theocracy or both.

That has always been the major bone of contention blocking peace.

Settlements aren't self defense.

After murdering

Yitzhak Rabin (born March 1, 1922, Jerusalem—died November 4, 1995, Tel Aviv–Yafo, Israel) was an Israeli statesman and soldier who, as prime minister of Israel (1974–77 and 1992–95), led his country toward peace with its Palestinian and Arab neighbors. He was chief of staff of Israel’s armed forces during the Six-Day War (June 1967). Along with Shimon Peres, his foreign minister, and Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) chairman Yasser Arafat, Rabin received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1994.

It's been radicals.

This could have been settled 30 years ago but far right radical Zionism ended that with blood of their own people.
 
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Ron in Regina

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It's not code for Jew. I'm a Zionist. I support Israel existence…
…& that’s how you’re using the term. I’m not even religious & I think I’m a Zionist, using the definition of “someone who advocates for an independent Jewish state where Jews can live, preferably in safety” but you & I & Serryah aren’t the only ones using the term…or a definition similar to how I’m defining it.

For many, I do think it’s code for Jews that they hide behind like the cowards that they are, being the knuckle-dragging woke areholes code talking around being called out.

So, what flavour of Zionist are you?
What flavour of Zionist am I?
What flavour of Zionist is Serryah?