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Qatar and Id wager Russia as well.
Qatar, that hosts Hamas? No way! They’re innocent negotiators for Peace in the Middle East!! Like Mother Teresa with oil money just wanting fairness & balance, etc…

And Russia? How could they benefit from a situation like this aside from the distraction from the Ukraine (?), and reinforced alliances as their friends have gotten a bit skinny as of late, etc…?
 

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Qatar, that hosts Hamas? No way! They’re innocent negotiators for Peace in the Middle East!! Like Mother Teresa with oil money just wanting fairness & balance, etc…

And Russia? How could they benefit from a situation like this aside from the distraction from the Ukraine (?), and reinforced alliances as their friends have gotten a bit skinny as of late, etc…?
Wagner.
 

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Gazans’ support for Hamas has remained strong since the horrific Oct. 7 massacre, according to a March 20 poll from the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, as has their desire to have the group continue to control the Gaza Strip when the current war is over.

If that is the will of the majority of the people of Gaza, then peace and a two-state solution are impossible.

What this poll, and others, demonstrate is that despite what the West wants to believe, the actions and aims of Hamas are closely linked to the desires of the people of Gaza.

If the people of Gaza want peace and a two-state solution, as a new poll appears to suggest, they might want to rethink their overwhelming support for the genocidal terrorist organization Hamas.

Last week, NDP members donned their finest keffiyeh scarves when they put forward a motion to recognize a state of Palestine.

Advancing that motion, NDP MP Heather McPherson said, “Our NDP motion does not mean Canada would be recognizing Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization and it is not the government of Gaza. In fact, it is far from it.”
Facts, unfortunately, would appear to contradict McPherson since Hamas was elected to govern Gaza in 2006 and has been in power ever since.

And how do Gazans feel about Hamas today? The poll asked, “If it was up to you, which of (these) would you prefer to see in control of the Gaza Strip?”

In Gaza, 52 per cent of people wanted Hamas, an increase of 14 points since the question was asked three months ago. The answer was significantly more than the 21 per cent who said they wanted the Palestinian Authority under someone other than current leader Mahmoud Abbas.

How satisfied were Gazans with Hamas’s performance in the war and with its leader, Yahya Sinwar? A total of 62 per cent were satisfied with Hamas (plus 10 points from three months ago) and 52 per cent were satisfied with Sinwar.

According to the poll, if elections were held today, 34 per cent of Gazans would vote for Hamas, with the other choices being Fatah, a third party, none of the above and wouldn’t vote.

And this poll is not an outlier. A November survey by the Arab World for Research and Development found that almost 60 per cent of Gazans had a positive view of Hamas.

So when McPherson says Gazans are not supportive of Hamas, she is clearly talking through her pristine checkered scarf.

In another part of her speech, she said that Canadians “were horrified on Oct. 7 by the vile terrorist attack on innocent civilians in Israel by Hamas terrorists.”

A reminder: Hamas murdered 1,200 people on Oct. 7, raped and gang-raped women before killing them, tortured men, women and children, mutilated bodies, often by burning them, and kidnapped more than 250 people. The Hamas killers even took videos of their horrific acts.

Canadians, and the world, may have been horrified by what happened on Oct. 7, but Palestinians, not so much.
According to this latest poll, among Palestinians who had not watched the videos, 97 per cent believed Hamas did not commit atrocities on Oct. 7. Even among those who had watched the videos, 81 per cent said Hamas did not commit atrocities.

What are we to make of that? That four-out-of-five Palestinians who had watched the videos think the Hamas terrorists were justified? That they acted appropriately?

Despite this enormous backing for Hamas and its actions, Gazan support for a two-state solution has almost doubled in recent months. According to the poll, 62 per cent of people in Gaza support a two-state solution, which is up from 35 per cent three months ago and a similar number six months ago.

When asked about ways to “break the stalemate,” 55 per cent of Palestinians supported “confrontations and armed intifada” (down from 69 per cent in December), while 45 per cent chose “unarmed popular resistance” (up from 39 per cent).
When asked to choose a method to end Israeli occupation and establish an independent state, 39 per cent of Gazans selected “armed struggle” over “negotiations” (23 per cent).

Given that support for “armed struggle” was down from 56 per cent in December, it appears as though Gazans may be coming around to the notion that violence may not be the best way to achieve their ends. But neither will their continued support for Hamas.

It certainly does not help that some Canadian politicians, including Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly, are blind to these political realities.
 

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Qatar, that hosts Hamas? No way! They’re innocent negotiators for Peace in the Middle East!! Like Mother Teresa with oil money just wanting fairness & balance, etc…

And Russia? How could they benefit from a situation like this aside from the distraction from the Ukraine (?), and reinforced alliances as their friends have gotten a bit skinny as of late, etc…?
Or perhaps sort of a Switzerland of the Middle East?
 
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A new analysis, published earlier this month in The Tablet, in fact presents what may well be the strongest statistical evidence to date that the Gaza Health Ministry has been fabricating casualty data to fit Hamas’s preferred narrative.

The analysis, conducted by Abraham Wyner, a professor of statistics and data science at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, identifies a number of glaring incongruities in daily casualty data released by the ministry between late October and mid-November of last year.

“Hamas hasn’t provided detailed data since early in the war. And why should it?” Wyner told me via email last Wednesday. “You use what you can.”

The most glaring of these red flags is what Wyner calls in his piece an “almost metronomical linearity,” or maintaining a steady rhythm, in daily reports of the total number of deaths in Gaza, which averaged “270 (deaths) per day plus or minus about 15 per cent” through an entire 16-day sample. For this trendline to be accurate, Israeli forces would have had to kill a near-identical number of Gazans each day for over two straight weeks, notwithstanding the inevitable variations in the day-to-day frequency of bombings and density of sites bombed.

The far more likely case, writes Wyner, is that “the Gaza ministry is releasing fake daily numbers that vary too little because they do not have a clear understanding of the behaviour of naturally occurring numbers.”

Irregularities in the ministry-reported data also call into question the oft-repeated claim the 70 per cent of the dead in Gaza are women and children; again, Wyner argues, because reported daily death counts increase too consistently to be plausible — this time across age and sex demographics.

“Hamas casualty figures mirror the population figures almost exactly,” Wyner told me (adult males make up about 25 per cent of Gaza’s population). Accounting for the fact that at least a third of the dead are Hamas combatants, “this implies that either all Gaza men are fighters — obviously false — or that many, if not the majority, of the reported child casualties are actually fighters.”
 

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They're Back! Animal Sacrifices Coming To A Temple Mount Near You!


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19 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: 2 “This is a requirement of the law that the Lord has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke. 3 Give it to Eleazar the priest; it is to be taken outside the camp and slaughtered in his presence. 4 Then Eleazar the priest is to take some of its blood on his finger and sprinkle it seven times toward the front of the tent of meeting. 5 While he watches, the heifer is to be burned—its hide, flesh, blood and intestines. 6 The priest is to take some cedar wood, hyssop and scarlet wool and throw them onto the burning heifer. 7 After that, the priest must wash his clothes and bathe himself with water. He may then come into the camp, but he will be ceremonially unclean till evening. 8 The man who burns it must also wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he too will be unclean till evening.

9 “A man who is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer and put them in a ceremonially clean place outside the camp. They are to be kept by the Israelite community for use in the water of cleansing; it is for purification from sin. 10 The man who gathers up the ashes of the heifer must also wash his clothes, and he too will be unclean till evening. This will be a lasting ordinance both for the Israelites and for the foreigners residing among them.

11 “Whoever touches a human corpse will be unclean for seven days. 12 They must purify themselves with the water on the third day and on the seventh day; then they will be clean. But if they do not purify themselves on the third and seventh days, they will not be clean. 13 If they fail to purify themselves after touching a human corpse, they defile the Lord’s tabernacle. They must be cut off from Israel. Because the water of cleansing has not been sprinkled on them, they are unclean; their uncleanness remains on them.



What these red cows from Texas have to do with war and peace in the Middle East​

By Chris Livesay

March 5, 2024 / 10:48 AM EST / CBS News
Jerusalem — When Hamas spokesman Abu Ubaida began a speech marking the 100th day of the war in Gaza, one confounding yet eye-opening proclamation escaped the headlines. Listing the motives for the Palestinian militant group's Oct. 7 massacre in Israel, he accused Jews of "bringing red cows" to the Holy Land.
The cows he was talking about are red heifers, which now graze at a secure, undisclosed location in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Some Jews and Christians believe they're key to rebuilding the Jewish temple that once stood in Jerusalem, and to beckoning the Messiah.

To understand, you have to look back almost 2,000 years in the tumultuous history of the Middle East, when the ancient Romans destroyed the last temple in Jerusalem.

 
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Gaza's Hamas rulers said a ceasefire was needed to halt the humanitarian crisis.

The World Court on Thursday unanimously ordered Israel, accused by South Africa of genocide in Gaza, to take all necessary and effective action to ensure basic food supplies to the enclave's Palestinian population and halt spreading famine.

The order from the International Court of Justice came as Israeli forces and Palestinian fighters (?? But Palestinians aren’t Hamas but Hamas are Palestinians, Right??) battled in close combat around Gaza's Al Shifa Hospital, where the armed wings of Hamas and Islamic Jihad said they attacked Israeli soldiers and tanks with rockets and mortar fire.

Senior Hamas official Basem Naim said the ruling did not go far enough and Israel must be ordered to end its military offensive to halt the suffering.
Hamas has rejected the most recent cease-fire offer again by the Israelis of a six week truce, and the exchange of about 40 hostages from Israel, held by Hamas, in exchange for 800 convicts from jails in Israel. Happy Good Friday Gaza.

"We (Hamas) welcome any new demands to end this humanitarian tragedy in Gaza and especially in the northern Gaza Strip, but we hoped the court ordered a ceasefire as an absolute solution to all the miseries our people in Gaza are living through,” Naim told Reuters.

Israeli leaders have said Hamas can end the war by surrendering, freeing all hostages it holds in Gaza and handing over for trial those involved in the Oct. 7 attack.
Gaza's health ministry said wounded people and patients were being held inside an administration building in Al Shifa that was not equipped to provide them with healthcare. Five patients had died since the Israeli raid began due to shortages of food, water and medical care, the Hamas-run ministry said.

Ismail Al-Thawabta, the director of the Gaza Hamas-run government media office, said the Israeli army was carrying out "field killings and executions against hundreds of civilians", when asked about the army statement.
The war erupted after Hamas militants broke through the border and rampaged through communities in southern Israel, killing 1,200 people and abducting 253 hostages according to Israeli tallies.

Israel says it plans a ground offensive into Rafah, in the far south of the enclave, where it believes most Hamas fighters are now sheltering. Its closest ally and main arms supplier the United States opposes such an assault, arguing it would cause too much harm to civilians who have sought refuge there.
 

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Gaza's Hamas rulers said a ceasefire was needed to halt the humanitarian crisis.

The World Court on Thursday unanimously ordered Israel, accused by South Africa of genocide in Gaza, to take all necessary and effective action to ensure basic food supplies to the enclave's Palestinian population and halt spreading famine.

The order from the International Court of Justice came as Israeli forces and Palestinian fighters (?? But Palestinians aren’t Hamas but Hamas are Palestinians, Right??) battled in close combat around Gaza's Al Shifa Hospital, where the armed wings of Hamas and Islamic Jihad said they attacked Israeli soldiers and tanks with rockets and mortar fire.

Senior Hamas official Basem Naim said the ruling did not go far enough and Israel must be ordered to end its military offensive to halt the suffering.
Hamas has rejected the most recent cease-fire offer again by the Israelis of a six week truce, and the exchange of about 40 hostages from Israel, held by Hamas, in exchange for 800 convicts from jails in Israel. Happy Good Friday Gaza.

"We (Hamas) welcome any new demands to end this humanitarian tragedy in Gaza and especially in the northern Gaza Strip, but we hoped the court ordered a ceasefire as an absolute solution to all the miseries our people in Gaza are living through,” Naim told Reuters.

Israeli leaders have said Hamas can end the war by surrendering, freeing all hostages it holds in Gaza and handing over for trial those involved in the Oct. 7 attack.
Gaza's health ministry said wounded people and patients were being held inside an administration building in Al Shifa that was not equipped to provide them with healthcare. Five patients had died since the Israeli raid began due to shortages of food, water and medical care, the Hamas-run ministry said.

Ismail Al-Thawabta, the director of the Gaza Hamas-run government media office, said the Israeli army was carrying out "field killings and executions against hundreds of civilians", when asked about the army statement.
The war erupted after Hamas militants broke through the border and rampaged through communities in southern Israel, killing 1,200 people and abducting 253 hostages according to Israeli tallies.

Israel says it plans a ground offensive into Rafah, in the far south of the enclave, where it believes most Hamas fighters are now sheltering. Its closest ally and main arms supplier the United States opposes such an assault, arguing it would cause too much harm to civilians who have sought refuge there.
Is Israel still an ally. Should we try getting Putin to say something to Nutlessyahudi, Likud and the Russian Orthodoxy that makes up the party?
 
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Is Israel still an ally. Should we try getting Putin to say something to Nutlessyahudi, Likud and the Russian Orthodoxy that makes up the party?
You’d almost think the US was coming up on an election and are more concerned with the muslim vote in America than they are against a terrorist attack against one of their allies. I assume that’s not what’s happening but from the outside looking in it seems like that’s what’s happening.

Israel has strongly supported the United States’ efforts to shut down terrorist organizations that pose a threat to both Israel and America. Israel supported our efforts in dismantling the Taliban in Afghanistan and in dealing with the existential threat posed by the radical Muslim administration in Iran.

The United States reciprocated and assisted the Israeli military in engineering the Iron Dome, a surface-to-air defense system that detects incoming rockets, calculates where they will land, and fires missiles to eliminate them before impact. This technology has effectively protected Israel against thousands of rockets fired by the terrorist group Hamas just a few months ago.

Hostile Arab extremists target Israel and the United States for similar reasons: both are democratic centers of Western culture. For decades, Israel and the United States have stood united in shared values, hopes, dreams, freedom, and peace. As the only democratic nation in the Middle East, Israel is a natural partner for the United States.
 

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You’d almost think the US was coming up on an election and are more concerned with the muslim vote in America than they are against a terrorist attack against one of their allies. I assume that’s not what’s happening but from the outside looking in it seems like that’s what’s happening.

Israel has strongly supported the United States’ efforts to shut down terrorist organizations that pose a threat to both Israel and America. Israel supported our efforts in dismantling the Taliban in Afghanistan and in dealing with the existential threat posed by the radical Muslim administration in Iran.

The United States reciprocated and assisted the Israeli military in engineering the Iron Dome, a surface-to-air defense system that detects incoming rockets, calculates where they will land, and fires missiles to eliminate them before impact. This technology has effectively protected Israel against thousands of rockets fired by the terrorist group Hamas just a few months ago.

Hostile Arab extremists target Israel and the United States for similar reasons: both are democratic centers of Western culture. For decades, Israel and the United States have stood united in shared values, hopes, dreams, freedom, and peace. As the only democratic nation in the Middle East, Israel is a natural partner for the United States.
Well there is defending yourself and then there is brutally extracting untethered revenge.

Defending themselves left the building months ago.
 

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Well there is defending yourself and then there is brutally extracting untethered revenge.

Defending themselves left the building months ago.
You’d think…Hamas would try to, as the last elected government of Gaza, and their representatives when convenient, make some effort beyond propaganda with Iran & the UN (with honourable mention to South Africa) towards ending this like..I don’t know…maybe releasing the remaining surviving hostages from Israel from Oct 7th or something like that, but what do I know?
The bond above isn’t UN breakable in a “What have you done for me lately?” Sort’a thing.

I’m just a guy who knew little about the region before Oct 7th beyond background in books & movies, & now I know a bit more. I’m not Jewish, have never met anyone who made it known that they were Jewish, and have no dog in this hunt.

From the outside looking in though, one side seems to be the one continually breaking cease-fires and then also demanding them with outrageous demands and conditions attached.

That whole armpit of a region has a warped and twisted history at best. I do find it weirdly interesting how many condemn Israel with barely a mention of Hamas if at all, but I think it’s a numbers thing with the dysphoria spread out into so many other nations, and politicians more concerned with their pensions and power than calling a spade a spade.
Well there is defending yourself and then there is brutally extracting untethered revenge.
It’s asymmetrical warfare, with combatants hiding amongst, and below their their own population (Palestinians aren’t necessarily Hamas, but Hamas are Palestinians, and that’s their population they’re are hiding amongst and under). That’s a choice.
Defending themselves left the building months ago.
Have Hamas, or the other militant factions in Gaza released the remaining hostages from Israel yet? The surviving ones anyway? Have they, beyond lip service to the UN & propaganda globally, done anything to curb this goat rodeo since Oct 7th worthy of mention? That too is a choice.
The fact that it’s not (assumably) at least a 10:1 ratio of civilian casualties to active combatants in Gaza in an asymmetrical warfare situation also says a whole lot about the indiscriminate attacks by Israel upon the innocent Palestinian population in Gaza, even by the Hamas Health Ministry’s numbers released by the Hamas Communications Wing about the Hamas Armed Militant Wing. How is that even possible in a genocidal situation as it’s being described as? Just another X-File.

How discriminating were the Hamas & Friends on the morning of October 7th 2023 in Israel during a religious holiday? Comparably discriminating? Somewhat so? Not at all? Does it matter? Is it even relevant? Does it change anything at all?
The Jews & Israel are the aggressors here in the narrative, & though Gaza shares a border with more than one country, only Israel is singled out. Weird that.
Don’t get me wrong, as the whole situation is both shitty and tragic for both sides, my empathy leans towards one side more than the other for the above reasons mentioned.
 

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You’d think…Hamas would try to, as the last elected government of Gaza, and their representatives when convenient, make some effort beyond propaganda with Iran & the UN (with honourable mention to South Africa) towards ending this like..I don’t know…maybe releasing the remaining surviving hostages from Israel from Oct 7th or something like that, but what do I know?
The bond above isn’t UN breakable in a “What have you done for me lately?” Sort’a thing.

I’m just a guy who knew little about the region before Oct 7th beyond background in books & movies, & now I know a bit more. I’m not Jewish, have never met anyone who made it known that they were Jewish, and have no dog in this hunt.

From the outside looking in though, one side seems to be the one continually breaking cease-fires and then also demanding them with outrageous demands and conditions attached.

That whole armpit of a region has a warped and twisted history at best. I do find it weirdly interesting how many condemn Israel with barely a mention of Hamas if at all, but I think it’s a numbers thing with the dysphoria spread out into so many other nations, and politicians more concerned with their pensions and power than calling a spade a spade.

It’s asymmetrical warfare, with combatants hiding amongst, and below their their own population (Palestinians aren’t necessarily Hamas, but Hamas are Palestinians, and that’s their population they’re are hiding amongst and under). That’s a choice.

Have Hamas, or the other militant factions in Gaza released the remaining hostages from Israel yet? The surviving ones anyway? Have they, beyond lip service to the UN & propaganda globally, done anything to curb this goat rodeo since Oct 7th worthy of mention? That too is a choice.
The fact that it’s not (assumably) at least a 10:1 ratio of civilian casualties to active combatants in Gaza in an asymmetrical warfare situation also says a whole lot about the indiscriminate attacks by Israel upon the innocent Palestinian population in Gaza, even by the Hamas Health Ministry’s numbers released by the Hamas Communications Wing about the Hamas Armed Militant Wing. How is that even possible in a genocidal situation as it’s being described as? Just another X-File.

How discriminating were the Hamas & Friends on the morning of October 7th 2023 in Israel during a religious holiday? Comparably discriminating? Somewhat so? Not at all? Does it matter? Is it even relevant? Does it change anything at all?
The Jews & Israel are the aggressors here in the narrative, & though Gaza shares a border with more than one country, only Israel is singled out. Weird that.
Don’t get me wrong, as the whole situation is both shitty and tragic for both sides, my empathy leans towards one side more than the other for the above reasons mentioned.
Hostages hostages hostages... Has Isreal emptied the illegal Westbank settlements or halted plans to build more. Can Christian visit Israel without being called a goyim and not be spit on? Are Muzzies or Christians doing animal sacrifices on mutual Holy sites? Can Gazans leave Gaza to visit family in West Bank, go to school, go see a specialist, go shopping or its still all at the whim of an 18 year old hungover soldier at the gate.

Israelis treat them like fucking shit.
 

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Hostages hostages hostages... Has Isreal emptied the illegal Westbank settlements or halted plans to build more. Can Christian visit Israel without being called a goyim and not be spit on? Are Muzzies or Christians doing animal sacrifices on mutual Holy sites? Can Gazans leave Gaza to visit family in West Bank, go to school, go see a specialist, go shopping or its still all at the whim of an 18 year old hungover soldier at the gate.

Israelis treat them like fucking shit.
So Hamas (& Friends) attacked Israel Oct 7th to improve the lot of Christians in Israel (?) or is that just an aside?

Hamas (& Friends) attacked Israel Oct 7th because of Israeli settlements in the Westbank that they don’t control or influence (?) or is that just an aside?

Hamas (& Friends) attacked Israel Oct 7th because of animal sacrifices on mutual holy sites? Access to schools and shopping in the Westbank? Medical care beyond exceptional situations in the Westbank?

Apparently the Westbank is split into three areas being A & B & C. Can an Israeli enter into area A? Should an Israeli enter into area B? If not then why not?

I’m not saying that continued Israeli settlements in area C (after 1997) aren’t illegal under under international law, as it seems that they are (under the Oslo Accords), but why did Hamas in Gaza (as opposed to let’s say the PNA in the Westbank) invade Israel again over this?

Hamas does now say that Israeli settlements in the Westbank (that was seized from Jordan in 1967 that Jordan had annexed years earlier) are part of the reason they attacked Israel Oct 7th…

Couldn’t a Gaza Palestinian just go to Egypt and fly to Jordan and then enter the Westbank into area’s A or B…without crossing Israel? If not then why? ‘Cuz Israel? Did Israel control the Gaza/Egypt border between 2005–ish and October 7th happening?
 

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Israeli lawyer taken hostage by Hamas recounts sexual assault, beatings
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Published Mar 27, 2024 • Last updated 2 days ago • 2 minute read

An Israeli lawyer taken hostage during the terrorist attack by Hamas fighters last year is recounting in detail the sexual assault and torture she endured for the first time.


Amit Soussana was at home in Kibbutz Kfar Azza recuperating from a fever on Oct. 7, 2023, when the sound of sirens warned of rocket attacks.


She hid in her bedroom closet but was abducted by Hamas gunmen and taken to Gaza where she was held in captivity for 55 days.

While chained by her left ankle in a children’s bedroom, Soussana said the man tasked with guarding her would sometimes enter the room, sit down beside her, lift her shirt and touch her.

She also said the man repeatedly asked when her period was due.

Around Oct. 24, Soussana recounted the sexual and physical assault by the guard, who called himself Muhammad.

Early that morning, Muhammad took the chain off her leg and she was left in the bathroom. After bathing, she saw the man standing at the door armed with a gun.


“He came towards me and shoved the gun at my forehead,” Soussana, 40, told the New York Times.

After being hit by the man, she was forced to remove her towel.

“He sat me on the edge of the bath,” Soussana said. “And I closed my legs. And I resisted. And he kept punching me and put his gun in my face. Then he dragged me to the bedroom.”

Muhammad pointed the gun at her and forced her to commit a sexual act on him, she said.

The Times decided not to publish the specifics of the sexual assault.

Following the assault, the man left to wash up while she was in the room naked and in the dark.



Soussana said the man showed remorse after he returned to the room.

“I’m bad, I’m bad, please don’t tell Israel,” she recalled him telling her.

After her release in late November, Soussana spoke publicly of the assaults but didn’t get into specifics.

A hospital report stated she had fractures in her right eye socket, cheek, knee and nose, and severe bruising on her knee and back. Several injuries, including punches to her right eye, dated back to her abduction.
 

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So Hamas (& Friends) attacked Israel Oct 7th to improve the lot of Christians in Israel (?) or is that just an aside?

Hamas (& Friends) attacked Israel Oct 7th because of Israeli settlements in the Westbank that they don’t control or influence (?) or is that just an aside?

Hamas (& Friends) attacked Israel Oct 7th because of animal sacrifices on mutual holy sites? Access to schools and shopping in the Westbank? Medical care beyond exceptional situations in the Westbank?

Apparently the Westbank is split into three areas being A & B & C. Can an Israeli enter into area A? Should an Israeli enter into area B? If not then why not?

I’m not saying that continued Israeli settlements in area C (after 1997) aren’t illegal under under international law, as it seems that they are (under the Oslo Accords), but why did Hamas in Gaza (as opposed to let’s say the PNA in the Westbank) invade Israel again over this?

Hamas does now say that Israeli settlements in the Westbank (that was seized from Jordan in 1967 that Jordan had annexed years earlier) are part of the reason they attacked Israel Oct 7th…

Couldn’t a Gaza Palestinian just go to Egypt and fly to Jordan and then enter the Westbank into area’s A or B…without crossing Israel? If not then why? ‘Cuz Israel? Did Israel control the Gaza/Egypt border between 2005–ish and October 7th happening?
Wake up Ron. You refuse to eat Canadian propaganda. Why do you eat this shit?
 

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Wake up Ron. You refuse to eat Canadian propaganda. Why do you eat this shit?
Which propaganda should I eat? The Hamas Propaganda? Ukraines? Americans? Russias? Irans? Etc…there are two sides (at least) in this conflict. Do you believe one side more than the other without believing either (?) or do you disbelieve both sides equally? Does one side or the other have more or less credibility? Do you do the same with the Ukraine/Russia war? Honestly?
Are they hostages or POWs?
Was war declared before they were taken prisoner? Where these mostly civilians & can civilians be prisoners of war? Can infants or elderly women or non-Israeli’s that were also abducted POW’s?

Do you think those people at the music festival on an Israeli religious holiday were directly taking part in the conflict between Israel & Palestine/Hamas/Etc…? Same with children & elderly taken prisoner?

Where do the Nepalese’s & Thai’s abducted from Israel fit in the POW concept?

Serious questions here. Same as my previous questions in my previous post.