Hamas attacks Israel

[Ron in Regina]

And on the above happy notes…The warring sides blamed the other for the collapse of the truce by rejecting terms to extend the daily release of hostages held by militants in exchange for Palestinians held in Israeli jails.

A pause that started on Nov. 24 had been extended twice and Israel had said it could continue as long as Hamas released 10 hostages each day. But after seven days during which women, children and foreign hostages were freed, mediators failed to find a formula to release more, including Israeli soldiers and civilian men.

Israel accused Hamas of refusing to release all the women it held. A Palestinian official said the breakdown occurred over female Israeli soldiers.

Residents and officials from Hamas said its fighters armed with rocket-propelled grenades battled Israeli troops and tanks in Gaza City's Sheikh Radwan neighbourhood in the north.

US VP Harris calls for restraint as Israel strikes southern Gaza — Reuters

U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris said too many innocent Palestinians had been killed in Gaza as Israeli war planes and artillery bombarded the enclave on Saturday following the collapse of a truce with Hamas militants.

apple.news

Officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have said Israel's objectives are the destruction of Hamas' military and governmental capabilities, bringing the hostages back, and ensuring that the area around Gaza will never be threatened by a repeat of the Oct. 7 attack. To achieve those goals, eliminating the leadership of Hamas will be essential.

"They are living on borrowed time," Gallant told a news conference last week, indicating that Israeli intelligence agency Mossad would hunt down the militant group's leadership anywhere in the world. The Israeli government did not respond to a request for comment.

Insight: Israel's most wanted: the three Hamas leaders in Gaza it aims to kill

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant has a poster hanging on a wall of his office in Tel Aviv, in the wake of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas. It shows mugshots of hundreds of the Palestinian militant group's commanders arranged in a pyramid.

www.reuters.com

 

[Serryah]

And on the above happy notes…The warring sides blamed the other for the collapse of the truce by rejecting terms to extend the daily release of hostages held by militants in exchange for Palestinians held in Israeli jails.

A pause that started on Nov. 24 had been extended twice and Israel had said it could continue as long as Hamas released 10 hostages each day. But after seven days during which women, children and foreign hostages were freed, mediators failed to find a formula to release more, including Israeli soldiers and civilian men.

Israel accused Hamas of refusing to release all the women it held. A Palestinian official said the breakdown occurred over female Israeli soldiers.

Residents and officials from Hamas said its fighters armed with rocket-propelled grenades battled Israeli troops and tanks in Gaza City's Sheikh Radwan neighbourhood in the north.

US VP Harris calls for restraint as Israel strikes southern Gaza — Reuters

U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris said too many innocent Palestinians had been killed in Gaza as Israeli war planes and artillery bombarded the enclave on Saturday following the collapse of a truce with Hamas militants.

apple.news

Officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have said Israel's objectives are the destruction of Hamas' military and governmental capabilities, bringing the hostages back, and ensuring that the area around Gaza will never be threatened by a repeat of the Oct. 7 attack. To achieve those goals, eliminating the leadership of Hamas will be essential.

"They are living on borrowed time," Gallant told a news conference last week, indicating that Israeli intelligence agency Mossad would hunt down the militant group's leadership anywhere in the world. The Israeli government did not respond to a request for comment.

Insight: Israel's most wanted: the three Hamas leaders in Gaza it aims to kill

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant has a poster hanging on a wall of his office in Tel Aviv, in the wake of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas. It shows mugshots of hundreds of the Palestinian militant group's commanders arranged in a pyramid.

www.reuters.com

Thus proving Netanyahu is a fucking idiot.

But then again, he needs Hamas to be the Israeli boogie man still, so by doing what he's doing now, he's ensuring the next generation of Hamas will rise up out of the ashes of whatever is left, or will be remade into something worse.

Thus one reason why I give no sympathy to this man and those who support him.

 

[Dixie Cup]

Israel a colonist? Brahha hahahahah!! That is too funny.

 

[Ron in Regina]

The seven-day pause brought a respite from seven weeks of fighting, enabling the release by Hamas of 134 hostages, most of them Israelis, in return for around 400 Palestinian prisoners held by Israel under a deal negotiated mainly by Qatar.

Qatari support for Hamas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The negotiations involving Qatari, Israeli and U.S. officials had continued in the Qatari capital, Doha, even after the fighting resumed and Israeli military officials had indicated a readiness to implement another pause if mediators could persuade Hamas to release more hostages.

But later Saturday, Israel announced that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had recalled the Israeli negotiators, saying the talks on further hostage releases had reached an “impasse.”

Gaza strikes intensify as U.S. warns Israel over civilian deaths — The Washington Post

The United States is pressuring Israel to do more to avert heavy civilian casualties that are turning public sentiment worldwide against the war’s continuation.

apple.news

From the beginning of the conflict, Egypt has been warning that it would not accept any refugees, fearful of political destabilisation and security risks. If it is confronted with that reality, it might find itself in the worst-case scenario of having to use force.

Analysis: Why Israel's military wanted to end the Gaza truce, and what now? — Al Jazeera

Israel has warned that the war will spread to the 'whole' of Gaza. That could force other nations to step in.

apple.news

That hostilities started again came as little surprise to anyone in the region. The seven-day ceasefire brokered by Qatar, Egypt and the US had been forced on the reluctant Israeli government because domestic public pressure meant that the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, could not refuse an opportunity to bring home at least some of the 240 hostages “snatched” (?) by Hamas when the “militant” (?) organization broke through the perimeter fence around Gaza close to two months ago and killed more than 1,200 people, mostly civilians, in their homes or at a music festival.
“Hamas hopes that Israel can hit so hard that it weakens Israel. Israel’s capabilities are practically infinite but Hamas sees … an advantage from Israeli overreach … [which] builds sympathy for Hamas and antipathy towards Israel.”…by using millions of Gaza residents as human shields & propaganda fodder.

As the ceasefire ends, a question from history lingers: will Israel win the battle but lose the war against Hamas? — Guardian US

One lesson from the 1982 Lebanon war is that Israel’s enemy only needs to survive against superior firepower to gain an advantage

apple.news

Accusations of using human shields by Palestinian factions, including Hamas, has been raised during the 2008 and 2014conflicts in Gaza, as well as in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war. According to NATO, the UN, EU, US, Israel, and a number of European countries, Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups have deliberately employed Gaza's civilian population as human shields.

Use of human shields by Hamas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Twin_Moose]

Thus proving Netanyahu is a fucking idiot.

But then again, he needs Hamas to be the Israeli boogie man still, so by doing what he's doing now, he's ensuring the next generation of Hamas will rise up out of the ashes of whatever is left, or will be remade into something worse.

Thus one reason why I give no sympathy to this man and those who support him.

Houthi's and Hezbollah are scratching their heads and saying huh?

 

[Serryah]

 

[Taxslave2]

Thus proving Netanyahu is a fucking idiot.

But then again, he needs Hamas to be the Israeli boogie man still, so by doing what he's doing now, he's ensuring the next generation of Hamas will rise up out of the ashes of whatever is left, or will be remade into something worse.

Thus one reason why I give no sympathy to this man and those who support him.

Yes, well you are most certainly the resident expert on being an idiot.

 

[Serryah]

Yes, well you are most certainly the resident expert on being an idiot.

Learning it from you, Taxy, and a few others.

 

[Twin_Moose]

 

[Taxslave2]

Learning it from you, Taxy, and a few others.

No one can compete with you and tourchie on being an idiot. You know you are supporting a country that executes gays? Don't you?

 

[Ron in Regina]

No one can compete with you and tourchie on being an idiot. You know you are supporting a country that executes gays? Don't you?

I’ve asked that previously. She’s aware. Hamas isn’t a country, but Palestine is, but Palestine elected Hamas, but not since 2006 or so, and there hasn’t been an election since.

No reason friendly debate has to get personally insulting. We all have our opinions & differences.

 

[Serryah]

No one can compete with you and tourchie on being an idiot. You know you are supporting a country that executes gays? Don't you?

I don't support Hamas at all.

I wouldn't even support Palestine if Hamas was their actual truly elected Government, but it's not and hasn't been for a decade plus.

There are other places on this rock that support executing gays - guess what, I don't support them, either. And considering the stance of many on this board, that you'd use that as some sort of factor into whether a country should be supported or not is laughable as hell.

You are like every other Israeli Guilt follower - if you don't agree with what Israel is doing, you're Anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish. If you don't find all of Palestine at fault for the attack on Israel, you are a "Jew hater".

I've given repeatedly my stance on the issue.

You just choose to continue to ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative. Because you ignore constantly and refuse to admit that the entire situation is NOT as simplistic as you want and wish it was.

Ironically, my stance moreso fits with people who live in Israel itself - when I don't give into the frustration of the entire situation and just say blow them all the fuck up and be done with it.

Bibi Wackadoo adored having Hamas in power because it gave him the excuse of the boogeymen to do what he wanted and keep his people fearful enough to let him do what he wanted.

Bibi Wackadoo's government IGNORED the warnings of Oct 7 being a thing, just like the US ignored the warnings about Sept 11.

What happened in October is partly Bibi Wackadoo's fault, and the fault of his ignorant right wing fellows. Because they couldn't believe the low tech, ignorant little sand monkeys could POSSIBLY be planning an attack and couldn't POSSIBLY pull it off because they're not scary and they're not anything but dirty little lowlife scum (and please note that's not what I believe, it's sarcasm)

They fell into the same ignorant trap of MANY "civilized" nations that have dealings with "lower" nations. History is full of that. Oct 7 was once again proof that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[spaminator]

I’m done with having to explain myself to Jew haters
I'm not the one shooting up schools, firebombing community centres, vandalizing bookstores, phoning in death threats, painting Swastikas on people's homes, intimidating patrons coming out of restaurants and political events, or trying to block rail lines in Canada


Author of the article:Lorrie Goldstein
Published Dec 02, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

Sorry, Jew haters, but as a Canadian Jew I’m not going to be apologizing for my right to exist.

Nor for my views about the Israel-Hamas war.


I’m not the one shooting up schools, firebombing community centres, vandalizing bookstores, phoning in death threats, painting Swastikas on people’s homes, intimidating patrons coming out of restaurants and political events, or trying to block rail lines in Canada.

Of course, by your “logic,” and I use the term loosely, since you’re doing all of these things because you hate Jews – let’s stop pretending this is about “Zionists” or Israel bombing Gaza – I would be justified in doing all of these things aimed at Canadians of Palestinian, Arab and Muslim origin in Canada, because of Hamas’ terrorism in Israel.



But I don’t do any of those things because I’m not insane and because I condemn acts of hatred against Canadians of Palestinian, Arab and Muslim origin, which are also happening here, because once you let the genie of hatred that you worship out of the bottle, as you have, it never stops with the Jews.

I also understand the difference between what you’re doing and the genuine anguish many people living in Canada – of all faiths and no faith – feel about the death of thousands of innocent Palestinians in Gaza because of Israel’s response to Hamas’ unprovoked and murderous attack on innocent Israeli civilians on Oct. 7.


I’m not talking about lawfully demonstrating against Israel, or urging the Canadian government to call for a ceasefire.

I’m talking about you.

Because if you knew anything about history, you would know what you are doing is nothing new.

But since you know nothing about anything other than hatred and scapegoating others for your own miserable lives, your responses are as predictable as they are pathetic.

In Yiddish, what you’re doing is called a “shanda” – a disgrace.

And Jews have been dealing with you and those of your ilk for thousands of years, because there have always been Jew haters.

As the late British Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, head of the United Hebrew Congregations of the Commonwealth, observed, there is no political ideology – from Nazism to communism – that has a lock on Jew hatred, which throughout history has manifested itself in endlessly contradictory ways.


“Before the Holocaust,” as Rabbi Sacks wrote, “Jews were hated because they were poor and because they were rich; because they were communists and because they were capitalists; because they kept to themselves and because they infiltrated everywhere; because they clung to ancient religious beliefs and because they were rootless cosmopolitans, who believed nothing.”

In biblical times, when religion was the founding paradigm of society, Jews were portrayed as belonging to the worst religion, falsely accused of the “blood libel,” of killing Christian children to use their blood to make Passover matzah.

In the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, when science was the paradigm, Nazis attempted to prove through science that the Jews were a uniquely evil race.

Today, when human rights is the paradigm of our age, Israel, the only Jewish state, is constantly and falsely accused of being the world’s worst human rights violator.

“Whenever you hear human rights invoked to deny Israel’s right to exist,” Rabbi Sacks correctly observed, “you are hearing the new anti-Semitism.”

That’s what you’re doing. You know it, I know it, we all know it.

But here’s the thing.

We survived the Holocaust. Do you really think we won’t survive you?

lgoldstein@postmedia.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1731071964125483309

GOLDSTEIN: I’m done with having to explain myself to Jew haters

Sorry, Jew haters, but as a Canadian Jew I'm not going to be apologizing for my right to exist – nor for my views on the Israel-Hamas war.

torontosun.com

 

[Twin_Moose]

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[petros]

Is anyone ready to talk about the two carrier strike groups in the ME and why they are really there?

 

[Serryah]

So something I just thought of for all you "Israel has it right regardless" types:

You say that if Palestinians would only fight against Hamas that things might be better, or at least end better for them.

How the HELL are they supposed to fight against Hamas when Israel is utterly destroying them? Annihilating's their families in the bombings? Burying people under rubble that they need to dig through in hopes to find someone alive? Just WHEN are they supposed to find the time to act out against the bastard barbarians - Hamas - who caused all this to begin with? And if there's a point when it's over, what excuse has Israel given the Palestinian people to actually want to GIVE Hamas the death they so richly deserve? What has Israel done but push MORE people into the hands of Hamas? Only for them to complain that "Hamas did X" when the next wave of insanity starts?

First Israel warned people to head south, because they were going to hit the north. Now they're hitting the south which was supposed to be the 'safe zone'.

So double the population is trapped in an even less sizable space... and Israel is supposed to have the moral high ground for this?

Why not just admit the actual truth: your hatred of Palestinians - regardless of whether they are Arab, Christian, Terrorist or otherwise - is so absolute you're in euphoric glee to see Gaza turned into the rubble it's becoming? And your siding with Israel isn't about "Jews need to protect themselves", but it's because you just hate the Palestinians. This is about bloodthirsty, barbaric ethnic cleansing and the excuse that "Hamas are Terrorists" somehow is a moral high ground reason for cheering Israel on.

Just be fucking honest about why the support for Israel's barbarism is there?

And explain how Hamas' act of insanity is somehow worse than Israel's act of insanity? How is Hamas' acts of barbarism any worse than those of Israel?

 

[petros]

So something I just thought of for all you "Israel has it right regardless" types:

You say that if Palestinians would only fight against Hamas that things might be better, or at least end better for them.

How the HELL are they supposed to fight against Hamas when Israel is utterly destroying them? Annihilating's their families in the bombings? Burying people under rubble that they need to dig through in hopes to find someone alive? Just WHEN are they supposed to find the time to act out against the bastard barbarians - Hamas - who caused all this to begin with? And if there's a point when it's over, what excuse has Israel given the Palestinian people to actually want to GIVE Hamas the death they so richly deserve? What has Israel done but push MORE people into the hands of Hamas? Only for them to complain that "Hamas did X" when the next wave of insanity starts?

First Israel warned people to head south, because they were going to hit the north. Now they're hitting the south which was supposed to be the 'safe zone'.

So double the population is trapped in an even less sizable space... and Israel is supposed to have the moral high ground for this?

Why not just admit the actual truth: your hatred of Palestinians - regardless of whether they are Arab, Christian, Terrorist or otherwise - is so absolute you're in euphoric glee to see Gaza turned into the rubble it's becoming? And your siding with Israel isn't about "Jews need to protect themselves", but it's because you just hate the Palestinians. This is about bloodthirsty, barbaric ethnic cleansing and the excuse that "Hamas are Terrorists" somehow is a moral high ground reason for cheering Israel on.

Just be fucking honest about why the support for Israel's barbarism is there?

And explain how Hamas' act of insanity is somehow worse than Israel's act of insanity? How is Hamas' acts of barbarism any worse than those of Israel?

Do you know the difference between killing and murdering dont you?

 

[Serryah]

Avi Shlaim - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Interesting views.

 

[petros]

Avi Shlaim - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Interesting views.

If you think you hate Catholics and Jews now. Just wait for Islam to take over our Govt. Dont come running to us waving your fake dick around like its a weapon thinking we'll protect you.

 

[petros]

Did the IDF get their servers back from the base Hamas raided? That was a very very organized hit under the cover of sloppy militants on a murdeous rampage which was waaaaaaaay beyond Hamas’s capacities.