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That's why the United States hasn't won a major conflict since, WWII, excluding Korea. Neither the USA or Nato has the stomach to win wars anymore. Any conflict they step into now will be measured by the war we lost in Afghanistan. If you want to win a war you have to kill a lot of people. War is hell, and when you start one, the response is very inappropriate. It's so clear that Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and these other knuckle-dragging zealots don't give a toot about the Palestinians, but everyone from the Arabs to the media ignores that, and cries for the poor Palestinians, they are perpetual victims. They also teach their children to hate early on and the enemy is never Hamas, always the Jews. The Cycle = Terror Attack = Israel Responds = Civilians Die = Outcry for the poor Palestinians = Cease Fire = UN Condemnation = Fund raising for the Palestinians = Hamas rebuilds = Terror Attack = Israel Responds = Civilians Die = Outcry for the poor Palestinians = Cease Fire = It just never effing ends.
Yep, the "World Police" model. Leave it to the U.S. to forget what "winning a war" means.

It means you hurt the other country until they come around to your way of thinking.
 

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That's why the United States hasn't won a major conflict since, WWII, excluding Korea. Neither the USA or Nato has the stomach to win wars anymore. Any conflict they step into now will be measured by the war we lost in Afghanistan. If you want to win a war you have to kill a lot of people. War is hell, and when you start one, the response is very inappropriate.

All true.

It's so clear that Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and these other knuckle-dragging zealots don't give a toot about the Palestinians,

No, they don't.

but everyone from the Arabs to the media ignores that,

Actually no, that's not true. The issue is generally there's no DISCTINCTIONS made between Palestinians and Hamas, and there should be. Just like there should between Jews and the right wing wackadoo's of Israel's current Regime.

and cries for the poor Palestinians, they are perpetual victims.

Do you mean the people or Hamas?

They also teach their children to hate early on

Not all of them or do we also get to say the same about Israeli's/Jews teaching their kids to hate Arabs/Palestinians?

and the enemy is never Hamas, always the Jews.

Might have been solidly true years ago, now not so much, there are/is people who are anti-Hamas and realize they are the issue. But you know, numbers.

The Cycle = Terror Attack = Israel Responds = Civilians Die = Outcry for the poor Palestinians = Cease Fire = UN Condemnation = Fund raising for the Palestinians = Hamas rebuilds = Terror Attack = Israel Responds = Civilians Die = Outcry for the poor Palestinians = Cease Fire = It just never effing ends.

All true.

Though Israel gets enough in donations from all the Christian wackadoo's and World Guilt followers who seem to think that it's still a piss poor nation in need of their big bucks.

Then there's Israel responds with serious overkill.

Hamas takes all the 'funds' and the Palestinian people don't see much of what's sent to Gaza at all and the world really needs to fucking stop sending money to Gaza totally.

Hamas gets Iran and others to help them continue their bullshit.

And in the end, just destroy the entire area, solve everything in one go.
 

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All true.



No, they don't.



Actually no, that's not true. The issue is generally there's no DISCTINCTIONS made between Palestinians and Hamas, and there should be. Just like there should between Jews and the right wing wackadoo's of Israel's current Regime.



Do you mean the people or Hamas?



Not all of them or do we also get to say the same about Israeli's/Jews teaching their kids to hate Arabs/Palestinians?



Might have been solidly true years ago, now not so much, there are/is people who are anti-Hamas and realize they are the issue. But you know, numbers.



All true.

Though Israel gets enough in donations from all the Christian wackadoo's and World Guilt followers who seem to think that it's still a piss poor nation in need of their big bucks.

Then there's Israel responds with serious overkill.

Hamas takes all the 'funds' and the Palestinian people don't see much of what's sent to Gaza at all and the world really needs to fucking stop sending money to Gaza totally.

Hamas gets Iran and others to help them continue their bullshit.

And in the end, just destroy the entire area, solve everything in one go.
What I think may be a plan by Israel is to make Gaza a place that is uninhabitable so that countries that help the Palestinians take them in and they can deal with what the Hamas People want for their government. You get what you vote for.
 

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What I think may be a plan by Israel is to make Gaza a place that is uninhabitable so that countries that help the Palestinians take them in and they can deal with what the Hamas People want for their government. You get what you vote for.

Sure, except Hamas wasn't voted for since 2006 so that excuse doesn't work.

They're like any dictatorship Government/ruling party, they run by fear and lies and it's rare anyone of their own people steps up to fight them off.
 

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Qatar (who also funds Hamas, and is the headquarters for their leadership) hopes to negotiate a subsequent agreement to release additional hostages from Gaza by the fourth day of the truce.
 

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Qatar (who also funds Hamas, and is the headquarters for their leadership) hopes to negotiate a subsequent agreement to release additional hostages from Gaza by the fourth day of the truce.
"With malice toward none, with charity for all,"
--Abraham Lincoln, Second Inaugural Address
 
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The Israeli army has arrested the director of al-Shifa Hospital, the largest medical complex in the besieged Gaza Strip.

Hospital director Muhammad Abu Salmiya was held for questioning following “evidence showing that Shifa Hospital, under his direct management, served as a Hamas command and control centre”, the Israeli military said in a statement on Thursday.

Palestinian health officials confirmed the arrest and said another doctor and two nurses were also detained.

Gaza’s ministry of health (run by Hamas, like everything else in Gaza) said it wants an explanation from the World Health Organization (?), as medics were travelling in a WHO convoy with patients when they were stopped and detained by Israeli forces.

“The World Health Organization has not yet sent us any report to explain the situation including the numbers and names of those detained,” said Ashraf al-Qudra, a spokesperson for the health ministry.

He said the ministry (The Hamas Health Ministry) has decided to “stop coordination with the WHO regarding evacuations until they send them a report explaining what happened. (?)

You’d think, if Hamas had a Hamas Command & Control Center under this hospital, then Hamas wouldn’t have to have the WHO explain and give Hamas a report stating that Hamas had a Command & Control centre under the hospital & there’s no way the hospital administrator wouldn’t know this…& that Hamas is using this to justify keeping human shields in place at this Hamas run hospital with its Hamas Control & Command centre, etc…round and round and round…

The Israeli army, which raided the (Hamas Health Ministry run) hospital last week, allege that Hamas fighters used a tunnel complex beneath the facility in Gaza City to stage attacks. Hamas and hospital officials have repeatedly denied the claims.
 
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All true.



No, they don't.



Actually no, that's not true. The issue is generally there's no DISCTINCTIONS made between Palestinians and Hamas, and there should be. Just like there should between Jews and the right wing wackadoo's of Israel's current Regime.



Do you mean the people or Hamas?



Not all of them or do we also get to say the same about Israeli's/Jews teaching their kids to hate Arabs/Palestinians?



Might have been solidly true years ago, now not so much, there are/is people who are anti-Hamas and realize they are the issue. But you know, numbers.



All true.

Though Israel gets enough in donations from all the Christian wackadoo's and World Guilt followers who seem to think that it's still a piss poor nation in need of their big bucks.

Then there's Israel responds with serious overkill.

Hamas takes all the 'funds' and the Palestinian people don't see much of what's sent to Gaza at all and the world really needs to fucking stop sending money to Gaza totally.

Hamas gets Iran and others to help them continue their bullshit.

And in the end, just destroy the entire area, solve everything in one go.
Under Section 130 of the German criminal code if you said "all Germans weren't Nazis" you be shit on in court. Just like Palestinians they complied with the tyranny for over a decade and did nothing.
 
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The Israeli army has arrested the director of al-Shifa Hospital, the largest medical complex in the besieged Gaza Strip.

Hospital director Muhammad Abu Salmiya was held for questioning following “evidence showing that Shifa Hospital, under his direct management, served as a Hamas command and control centre”, the Israeli military said in a statement on Thursday.

Palestinian health officials confirmed the arrest and said another doctor and two nurses were also detained.

Gaza’s ministry of health (run by Hamas, like everything else in Gaza) said it wants an explanation from the World Health Organization (?), as medics were travelling in a WHO convoy with patients when they were stopped and detained by Israeli forces.

“The World Health Organization has not yet sent us any report to explain the situation including the numbers and names of those detained,” said Ashraf al-Qudra, a spokesperson for the health ministry.

He said the ministry (The Hamas Health Ministry) has decided to “stop coordination with the WHO regarding evacuations until they send them a report explaining what happened. (?)

You’d think, if Hamas had a Hamas Command & Control Center under this hospital, then Hamas wouldn’t have to have the WHO explain and give Hamas a report stating that Hamas had a Command & Control centre under the hospital & there’s no way the hospital administrator wouldn’t know this…& that Hamas is using this to justify keeping human shields in place at this Hamas run hospital with its Hamas Control & Command centre, etc…round and round and round…

The Israeli army, which raided the (Hamas Health Ministry run) hospital last week, allege that Hamas fighters used a tunnel complex beneath the facility in Gaza City to stage attacks. Hamas and hospital officials have repeatedly denied the claims.

If true, the director deserves to be held, tried and so on. Same with anyone else who was with them or who can be implicated in this.

If not true, the people who held up the convoy should be held accountable for any extra stress or medical issues that occurred to the patients in transport. Of course the soldiers could have escorted the convoy out and arrested the doctor and nurses the moment the patients were transferred into other hands, but that makes sense and Israel doesn't have it when it comes to dealing with people from Gaza, guilty of being part of Hamas or not.
 

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Toronto’s police chief said Thursday there’s been a “staggering” increase in hate crime reports in the city since Oct. 7, when Israel was attacked by Hamas and the conflict between the two intensified.

Chief Myron Demkiw said there have been 38 reports of anti-Semitic hate crimes and 17 anti-Muslim, anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab hate crime reports since Oct. 7.
 

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Well, to be fair, the US hasn't fought a major conflict since WWII, except Korea and Vietnam.

We won Iraq.

Neither the US nor NATO can define "win" anymore.
We won in Iraq? We're still there. What will it look like when NATO pulls out? I'm guessing it will look a lot like Afghanistan did, which bore a horrible resemblance to the fall of Saigon. My son and my nephew both served in Afghanistan, and my son did his last tour in Iraq before retiring after 20 years. Thank God, they both came home. I'm an atheist, but thank God, just the same. I don't know what American casualties were in Afghanistan, I know Canada lost 158, and some of those folks were from my unit. To think that after all that loss of life, NATO, and civilians, we would just hand it back to the Taliban and leave the people who helped us to fend for themselves is shameful. If it were my choice, we would fly to these countries and kill the bad, guys, but it isn't worth it to sacrifice young people if we aren't going to fight until we win.

Define Win? From the old soldiers' perspective, you must pummel your enemy until they beg to surrender. That's how you win a war? That's what Israel was doing; it was winning a war against the aggressor that attacked them. But everyone started worrying about the rapists and baby killers who took snuff films of their military action.

Everyone wants to talk about proportional response. What is a proportional response to someone raping a terrified woman beside her dead boyfriend? Serial killers do this stuff to terrify. Terrify, terror, makes sense. Where does that kind of hatred come from? The Palestinians and most Arabs have been taught early on that Israel is a state that must be destroyed and that Jews are subhuman. Not a dozen years ago two young brothers of Jordanian descent told me what their dad had to say about the Jews and Israel. THey told me Israel would be crushed. That they were vermin.

I'm seeing university students shouting Palestinian slogans even though they have no idea about their meaning. I'm seeing Trans and Queer for Palestine, which again illustrates the sheer ignorance of people. Being gay in Palestine will get you killed. In fact, people here are so blinded by their River to Sea mantra that they forget that the Muslim community led the charge against the Trans Agenda in Canadian schools. That's a whole other kettle of nonsense I don't have time to address at the moment.

Essentially, we had the Greatest Generation, that got us through the Second World War, and the Holocaust, and they brought prosperity to us.
Then there's this generation, a bunch of self-entitled-ignorant-num-fuks who are reading Osama Bin Laden's letter to America like its scripture..

Cheers, thanks for the welcome back folks.

I don't know how often I'll be here; writing and promoting is a full-time job.
 

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Qatar (who also funds Hamas, and is the headquarters for their leadership) hopes to negotiate a subsequent agreement to release additional hostages from Gaza by the fourth day of the truce.
It's like a corporation.
 
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The Israeli army has arrested the director of al-Shifa Hospital, the largest medical complex in the besieged Gaza Strip.

Hospital director Muhammad Abu Salmiya was held for questioning following “evidence showing that Shifa Hospital, under his direct management, served as a Hamas command and control centre”, the Israeli military said in a statement on Thursday.

Palestinian health officials confirmed the arrest and said another doctor and two nurses were also detained.

Gaza’s ministry of health (run by Hamas, like everything else in Gaza) said it wants an explanation from the World Health Organization (?), as medics were travelling in a WHO convoy with patients when they were stopped and detained by Israeli forces.

“The World Health Organization has not yet sent us any report to explain the situation including the numbers and names of those detained,” said Ashraf al-Qudra, a spokesperson for the health ministry.

He said the ministry (The Hamas Health Ministry) has decided to “stop coordination with the WHO regarding evacuations until they send them a report explaining what happened. (?)

You’d think, if Hamas had a Hamas Command & Control Center under this hospital, then Hamas wouldn’t have to have the WHO explain and give Hamas a report stating that Hamas had a Command & Control centre under the hospital & there’s no way the hospital administrator wouldn’t know this…& that Hamas is using this to justify keeping human shields in place at this Hamas run hospital with its Hamas Control & Command centre, etc…round and round and round…

The Israeli army, which raided the (Hamas Health Ministry run) hospital last week, allege that Hamas fighters used a tunnel complex beneath the facility in Gaza City to stage attacks. Hamas and hospital officials have repeatedly denied the claims.
He points out communications conduits and electrical outlets, explaining that power comes from the building above. “The hospital is providing electricity,” he says. “They’re using the hospital infrastructure in order to provide this terror mechanism to stay alive and survive.”

Beyond the bare essentials are such trimmings as handrails on stairs, kitchen countertops, tiles in kitchens and bathrooms, and even an air conditioning unit in one room. The soldier explains that the air conditioning mechanism on the surface helped them locate the tunnels below.

The video was released on X, formerly Twitter. Another video released on X takes viewers outside the hospital to a street a block away, where an ordinary-looking apartment hides an entranceway to the tunnel system.

Inside the ruined structure is what appears to be a classroom with a chalkboard covered in English-language lessons. But in a corner, the floor has been lifted to reveal a short staircase that leads to a glass door and then a further spiral staircase.

“One direction goes to the Shifa hospital,” Hagari explains. “The other direction goes to different places, where the terrorists can move using the safe haven, the human shield of the hospital, the human shield of those regular houses providing them shelter, held by civilians.”
If true, the director deserves to be held, tried and so on. Same with anyone else who was with them or who can be implicated in this.

If not true, the people who held up the convoy should be held accountable for any extra stress or medical issues that occurred to the patients in transport. Of course the soldiers could have escorted the convoy out and arrested the doctor and nurses the moment the patients were transferred into other hands, but that makes sense and Israel doesn't have it when it comes to dealing with people from Gaza, guilty of being part of Hamas or not.
 
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SickKids anesthesiologist's anti-Israel comments 'terrifying,' B'nai Brith says
Author of the article:Jane Stevenson
Published Nov 20, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read
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Christian Zaarour, an anesthesiologist at SickKids, is being investgated by the hospital after some anti-Israel comments he posted on Instagram. PHOTO BY POST BY @HONESTREPCANADA
The CEO of B’nai Brith Canada said that a SickKids pediatric anesthesiologist’s anti-Israel comments on Instagram are “terrifying” for Jewish parents with children who might be patients.


But Michael Mostyn said that the hospital putting the doctor on voluntary paid administrative leave is an “encouraging first step.”


As reported Friday, Christian Zaarour, an anesthesiologist with The Hospital for Sick Children and a teacher at the University of Toronto’s Department of Medicine, wrote on Instagram: “We consider Israel to be absolute evil. There is nothing worse than Israel. If Israel and the devil fight each other, we will stand with the devil.”



Mostyn said in response on Monday: “What could possibly be more terrifying for a Jewish parent than to know that your child’s life is in the hands of a pediatric anesthesiologist who shares social-media posts stating that the Jewish state of Israel is evil? The sharing of anti-Semitic posts like these represent an unacceptable level of bigotry that will most certainly interfere with this doctor’s ability to provide medical care.”


However, Mostyn said that SickKids “placing Dr. Zaarour on paid administrative leave is an encouraging first step towards ensuring that the matter is being handled appropriately. It is critical that The Hospital for Sick Children launch a thorough investigation and that Dr. Zaarour only be cleared to return to work once it has been clearly assessed that he is capable of fulfilling his duties without posing a risk to the well-being of his patients.”

SickKids released a second statement on Sunday, saying in part that “we continue to investigate the complaints about a social-media post involving one of our physicians. He is currently on a voluntary paid administrative leave while the investigation is being completed. All who come to SickKids are entitled to be treated with respect, professionalism and feel safe.”

Both the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario and the U of T said on Friday in statements that they expect physicians or community members to abide by the expectations outlined in their respective policies, but had no new comments Monday when asked about Zaarour being put on leave.
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It's mortifying to think that people actually believe that killing women, children & old people for no reason is something to be admired. It's sick & disgusting & pure evil.