Hamas attacks Israel

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Like the rest of the Arab world almost most bankrupt.. rapeing their daughters and beheading different types of Islamic cultures or factions. I'm all for them eating their own.

I mean I am all for them having their own country, at least next time they attack, it's easier to just drop the bomb on the country maybe like Japan 100 years of peace afterward.

Islam is a backward culture.. a cult really.


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petros

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Like the rest of the Arab world almost most bankrupt.. rapeing their daughters and beheading different types of Islamic cultures or factions. I'm all for them eating their own.

I mean I am all for them having their own country, at least next time they attack, it's easier to just drop the bomb on the country maybe like Japan 100 years of peace afterward.

Islam is a backward culture.. a cult really, a bunch of pedos.

Every Liberal woman supporting Palestine should be forced to live in that culture for 1 year.



If Europe, the USA and Canada keep accepting the Trojan Goat into our country, these Liberal women may have a rude awakening 100 years from now. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

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How should a fledgling independent democracy be rewarded? Assets and who is managing them with diplomatic intent and social democratic equity.
Is the fledgling independent democracy independent of non-democratic Hamas (?) or it it up to its eyebrows to be lead by one of two political parties (depending on which of the two chunks being discussed) where neither one of them has bothered with an election in almost 2 decades? That fledgeling independent democracy?

Which fledgling independent democracy are you asking about? Hamas controlled Gaza (?) or West Bank Palestinian Authority controlled West Bank (?) or some third fledgeling independent democracy?

Maybe Gaza & West Bank together lead by one or the other (but not both) political parties (?) or perhaps in a coalition together…a Palestinian/Hamas Authority lead Gaza/West Bank Palestine and everyone in the region will then get along and play nice with each other? Something like that?
 

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From my view (a view from space) Hamas took advantage of an Israel in turmoil politically and financially

Netanyahu who was out the door and up on charges took advantage of foreknowledge of a Hamas attack but had his ass handed to him in the propaganda war after going way too fucking far completely disregarding the lives of Jew and Arab civilian flora and fauna purely for politican gain.

Tabernac!
Netanyahu hasn’t gone far enough. Iran and UN financed terrorists must be eliminated.
 
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Is the fledgling independent democracy independent of non-democratic Hamas (?) or it it up to its eyebrows to be lead by one of two political parties (depending on which of the two chunks being discussed) where neither one of them has bothered with an election in almost 2 decades? That fledgeling independent democracy?

Which fledgling independent democracy are you asking about? Hamas controlled Gaza (?) or West Bank Palestinian Authority controlled West Bank (?) or some third fledgeling independent democracy?

Maybe Gaza & West Bank together lead by one or the other (but not both) political parties (?) or perhaps in a coalition together…a Palestinian/Hamas Authority lead Gaza/West Bank Palestine and everyone in the region will then get along and play nice with each other? Something like that?
Hamas will fade away.

It's not like the King hiked the tax on tea by 2% sparking a terrorist uprising against the Crown or anything.

How have others made their way after the fall of the wall?
 

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Israeli forces rescued four hostages held by Hamas since October in a raid in Gaza on Saturday that Palestinian officials said killed more than 200 people, one of the single bloodiest Israeli assaults of the eight-month-old war.

The spokesperson for Hamas' armed al-Qassam Brigades, Abu Ubaida, said some hostages were killed during the rescue operation.

"It's a blatant lie," Israeli military spokesperson Peter Lerner told CNN.

Red Team. Blue Team. Go!!

They were all kidnapped from the Nova music festival during the deadly raid by Hamas-led Palestinian militants on Israeli towns and villages near Gaza on Oct. 7, which precipitated the devastating war.

An Israeli military spokesperson said the operation took place in the heart of a residential neighbourhood in Nuseirat where Hamas had kept the hostages in two separate apartment blocks. Israel's forces came under intense fire (by whom?) during the assault and responded by firing "from the air and from the street," the spokesperson, Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari, said.

"We know about under 100 (Palestinian) casualties. I don't know how many from them are terrorists," he said in a briefing with journalists. An Israeli special forces commander was killed during the operation, a police statement said.

A different picture unfolded back in Gaza, where Palestinian health ministry officials and local medics said an Israeli military assault in Nuseirat had killed scores of people.
Hamas will fade away.
The Hamas-run ministry did not say how many of the fatalities were combatants.
It's not like the King hiked the tax on tea by 2% sparking a terrorist uprising against the Crown or anything.
The Hamas-run government media office in Gaza said later the death toll had risen to at least 210 Palestinians with many more wounded, after medics and health officials gave earlier tolls of up to 100 dead. There was no immediate confirmation of the highest figure from Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry.
How have others made their way after the fall of the wall?
The Berlin Wall? The Wailing Wall? One of the Walls of Jericho? The Mexico/American Wall?
 

Ron in Regina

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Oh…PS…
"We know about under 100 (Palestinian) casualties. I don't know how many from them are terrorists," he said in a briefing with journalists. An Israeli special forces commander was killed during the operation, a police statement said.
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The Hamas-run government media office in Gaza said later the death toll had risen to at least 210 Palestinians with many more wounded, after medics and health officials gave earlier tolls of up to 100 dead. There was no immediate confirmation of the highest figure from Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry.
So…about 95-ish + 210-ish = 305/2 = about 152/153 Palestinian casualties then? Somewhere between 2 & 150 are militants and the others are civilians/body armour.

"With the battle having ended twelve seconds ago, we can now confirm that exactly eight billion people are dead," said Gaza Health Ministry spokesman Ismail al-Thawabta. "They were all of course civilians, we've never seen such carnage, the hospital is overwhelmed, et cetera, you guys know the drill."
An Israeli military spokesperson said the operation took place in the heart of a residential neighbourhood in Nuseirat where Hamas had kept the hostages in two separate apartment blocks.
Why in the heart of a residential neighbourhood you (or I) might ask (?) and yet spread out between two Different apartment blocks? To minimize civilian casualties of course silly!!
Israel's forces came under intense fire (by whom?) during the assault and responded by firing "from the air and from the street," the spokesperson, Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari, said.
Would that have been the Gaza citizens firing at the IDF as they rescued their (that they don’t care about) hostages abducted from Israel Oct 7th? Or Hamas? Or Islamic Jihad? Does it matter? Would the neighbours know that Israeli hostages were being held there? Would the neighbours know that they were acceptable potential martyrs chosen for that honour with or without their consent?

In the wake of Hamas’s Oct. 7 massacre, Hamas is counting on human shields and the effect of their deaths on international opinion as their best way to restrain, if not halt, Israeli military force. Hamas considers two million Gazan civilians, including children, as martyrs, whether they want to be or not.
“We are called a nation of martyrs,” said another top Hamas official, Ghazi Hamad. “And we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.” He promised more attacks: “There will be a second, a third, a fourth.” When asked whether he sought the annihilation of Israel, Hamad matter-of-factly replied, “Yes, of course.” Etc…
How should a fledgling independent democracy be rewarded? Assets and who is managing them with diplomatic intent and social democratic equity.
How should a fledgling independent democracy should one actually emerge be rewarded? Should that reward include Hamas with some participation medals? Thanks for come out?

How does one anoint statehood upon Palestinians without also rewarding Hamas? Is that even possible? What example does that set for other terrorists (even if it’s just the other Iranian sponsored terrorists?)? Is that a deterrent against other terrorists conducting further 9/11’s or 10/7’s or whatever?
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Having Palestine as a nation run by a democratically elected government without Iranian interference would be good for both Palestine and Israel.
Come to think of it, nuking Iran would solve a lot of the world's problems.
Nuking wouldn't solve this issue. The people of Iran are oppressed by their government, I have a Persian family, and they all hate the government. They had two uprisings in the last decade and were gunned down and arrested murdered, and the West did nothing.
 

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Nuking wouldn't solve this issue. The people of Iran are oppressed by their government, I have a Persian family, and they all hate the government. They had two uprisings in the last decade and were gunned down and arrested murdered, and the West did nothing.
I’ve a buddy in Prince Albert who hit Canada with his Family in 1979 for the same reason.
 

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In an update on Sunday, Gaza's health ministry said 274 Palestinians were killed - up from 210 it reported on Saturday - and 698 were injured when Israeli special force commandos stormed into the densely populated Al-Nuseirat camp to rescue four hostages held since October by Hamas militants.
Why in the heart of a residential neighbourhood you (or I) might ask (?) and yet spread out between two Different apartment blocks? To minimize civilian casualties of course silly!!
Sixty-four of the dead were children and 57 were women, the Hamas-run Gaza government media office said on Sunday, so 274 (today) - 64 - 57 = 153 non-women & non-children then? Huh…
So…about 95-ish + 210-ish = 305/2 = about 152/153 Palestinian casualties then? Somewhere between 2 & 150 are militants and the others are civilians/body armour.
Another math coincidence. Weird…
Authorities across the globe have forcefully condemned Liam Neeson for killing dozens of kindly human traffickers just to save one lousy hostage.

"We are absolutely disgusted by this rampage of violence against innocent human traffickers trying to make a living," said U.S. Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. "One measly little hostage is no excuse for Neeson's horrific actions."

According to sources, Neeson began hunting down the human traffickers after they kidnapped his daughter to sell as a sex slave. "Terrorists violently taking his daughter to rape is simply no justification for violence," said British politician Jeremy Corbyn. "We called for an immediate cease-fire when Neeson began his genocidal campaign, and demanded he instead spend the next year negotiating with the traffickers while they raped his daughter.

Moreover, we condemn in the strongest possible terms Neeson's failure to give food and electricity to the people holding his daughter hostage. His behavior has no place in civilized society."
 

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Nuking wouldn't solve this issue. The people of Iran are oppressed by their government, I have a Persian family, and they all hate the government. They had two uprisings in the last decade and were gunned down and arrested murdered, and the West did nothing.
I worked with an Iranian electrician for about 3 years. He said much the same. He called the religious leaders "The Crazies".
 
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Israeli hostages rescued in Saturday's operation are sharing stories from captivity with their relatives. The Hamas-controlled Health Ministry in Gaza said at least 274 Palestinians were killed and 698 wounded in Israeli strikes on the Nuseirat refugee camp Saturday. Israeli police arrested 33 people at protests in Tel Aviv on Saturday night, including a doctor who was violently detained while treating an injured protester. Hezbollah said it had fired a salvo of Falaq-2 rockets at Israel for the first time.

Here's what you need to know 247 days into the war
What happened today​
■ RESCUED HOSTAGES: Almog Meir Jan – one of four hostages rescued alive from central Gaza in an Israeli operation on Saturday – was somewhat aware of the public's fight for the return of the hostages during his time in captivity, Almog's mother Orit told Israel's army radio.

  • Almog's father, Yossi Jan, passed away hours before his son was rescued. Almog's aunt, Dina Jan, told Kan Bet public radio: "My brother died of grief, and he didn't get to see Almog's return. He couldn't bear it – every deal that was derailed broke his heart."

  • Another rescued hostage, Noa Argamani, was reunited with her terminally ill mother at Ichilov Hospital in Tel Aviv. Noa's father Yaakov said that "Unfortunately, her mother is in a very severe condition," and she "just couldn't express her emotions and say what she was planning to say to her when they finally met."

  • The parents of Russian-Israeli rescued hostage Andrey Kozlov arrived in Israel and reunited with their son. Relatives said Andrey "is in relatively good condition" and is sharing details of his experience with them.
■ GAZA: Hamas' military wing spokesman Abu Obaida said 'other Israeli hostages' had been killed during Israel's rescue operation. Hamas did not provide proof, and the Israeli army said it had no knowledge of this. Obaida added that the operation posed "a serious danger for the hostages and will have negative consequences for their living conditions."

  • In comments to the Hamas-affiliated Al-Aqsa TV, Palestinian Islamic Jihad deputy chief Mohammad al-Hindi said Israel's offensive at the Nuseirat refugee camp will not affect a prisoner-hostage swap deal, and that conditions for the deal remain the same.

  • Hamas' Public Relations office claimed that IDF soldiers participating in the Israeli hostage rescue operation had entered the Nuseirat refugee camp in civilian vehicles, while impersonating refugees and displaced Palestinians.

  • According to the Hamas-controlled Health Ministry in Gaza, at least 274 Palestinians were killed and 698 wounded in Israeli strikes on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza on Saturday. It added that at least 37,084 Palestinians have been killed and 84,494 wounded since the start of the war.

  • Responding to news of the Palestinians killed during the Israeli rescue operation, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said reports on a "massacre of civilians are appalling. We condemn this in the strongest terms. The bloodbath must end immediately."

  • U.S. Central Command said humanitarian aid flow has resumed in Gaza, and that about 492 metric tons of humanitarian aid were delivered to the enclave on Sunday.
"The impressive operation Saturday in which four hostages were rescued from Hamas captivity in the Nuseirat refugee camp provided a necessary shot in the arm to Israelis, after long weeks of doldrums and bad news from the war in Gaza." - Amos Harel

■ ISRAEL: Israeli police arrested 33 people at protests in Tel Aviv calling for a hostage release and cease-fire deal Saturday night. At the conclusion of a rally outside IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv, police used mounted police and a water cannon to disperse demonstrators. President Isaac Herzog urged an investigation into the violent detention of a volunteer medic wearing an orange emergency vest, identified as Dr. Uri Baharav, at the protest.

  • At an anti-war rally in the northern Israeli city of Haifa, police forces declared the demonstration illegal and dispersed protesters a few minutes after the event began. Two protesters were arrested.

  • In Jerusalem, thousands of protesters staged a demonstration calling for the release of the hostages, blocking Paris Square.

  • At a protest in northern Israel, ex-Defense Minister Moshe (Bogie) Ya'alon called for elections and said Netanyahu was responsible for "the growth of Hamas and the appointment of messianic ministers." He added: "Total victory is a concept borrowed from dark dictatorships."

  • Netanyahu on Sunday said that "the majority of the Israeli public" will not tolerate ending the war before Hamas is dismantled, adding that "this situation requires internal unity, if not by the entire nation, than most of it."

  • National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir told Snir Dan, the cousin of Israeli hostage Carmel Gat, to "Stop being a leftist" after Dan asked the minister how halting aid to Gaza will help the hostages.

  • Ben-Gvir's party, Otzma Yehudit, said on Sunday that it will go back to voting with Netanyahu's coalition in the Knesset due to Hamas' apparent rejection of the deal and the expected resignation of the National Unity Party from the government.

  • Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld, the IDF's Gaza division commander, announced his resignation, saying he failed in his "mission to protect the lives of residents of Gaza border communities" on October 7.

  • Calling to "remain united," Netanyahu urged war cabinet minister Benny Gantz – who had postponed a press conference scheduled Saturday where he was expected to announce his resignation from the government – not to leave.

  • The parents of Hanan Yablonka, who was murdered on October 7 and whose body was recovered from Gaza last month, said Netanyahu has still not called them since they learned of their son's death.
"When Israeli forces daringly rescue hostages, Netanyahu shows up in every picture and makes speeches... But as the father of a dead hostage eloquently and tragically put it, 'When the ending is bad, the prime minister doesn't show up.'" - Yossi Verter

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