Half a million refugees gather in Libya to sail to Europe

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Considering the 300 miles closest to the US would join the US it wouldn't be much of a war. Debit machines down would end the revolution the same day it began. That can't come as a big surprise to anybody.
 

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Its easy to be liberal isn't it Sal. ;)
lmfao....funny that eh ;-)
well in Canada it is yeah...I'm what's known as a realistic left...we are all warm and snuggly and supportive but we keep an eye on reality...no use loading up the boat if it's going to sink us all...and all kidding aside, I mean that for real...I think we should help every human being that we can until it hurts but everything has a limit and we have to be realistic...

Dis I miss some wonderful changes in the last 5 years? I don't think so.
So picking them in port before they set sail in a suicide mission escaped the rational of "NATO'?
Good at creating refugees but not so good at taking care of them once it costs money instead of making somebody in the West a bit richer. They don't have any trouble resyuing their own people. Perhaps the skin color is a bigger deal than is making the news.
well apparently you did yes

I don't know what you are talking about...you can moan and p*ss and wail all you want but reality is we help a lot of people

now how do I know this?...funny you should ask...oh wait, you didn't....well I'll tell ya anywhoo by interacting with those who have been helped ..it's called adult education and they bring their babies with them

what I am saying is quit reading all the garbage, put down your poison pen and interact with some people of light that are actually doing what you say no one is doing...because it's a fact...I deal with fact...black, and white...I may live in the grey zone but I never lose sight of the black and white.

as for the skin colour, lots of black mixed in with the white eh ;-)

Numbers don't matter because Canadian leftists don't believe in arithmetic. Canada has a big heart, and is susceptible to guilt. Access to Canada through America is easy because America has no southern border, and the Canadian-American border is undefended. Canada is as ripe for the taking as California was in 1980. Besides, American leftists think they can manipulate Canada just as they have done in America.

The only way Canada could defend itself would be to militarize the border, and reduce its economic dependence on America. Canadians will discount the threat until it is too late.



The Canadians are too nice. It's a fatal flaw.
we're nice until we aren't ... we seem to be doing okay so far and the reason for that is our lack of extreme... extremes are what kill a country...moderation is the key...so far we are still fairly moderate but the more wingbats that head to one side produce other wingbats heading to the other...that's not good and we are teetering
 

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lmfao....funny that eh ;-)
well in Canada it is yeah...I'm what's known as a realistic left...we are all warm and snuggly and supportive but we keep an eye on reality...no use loading up the boat if it's going to sink us all...and all kidding aside, I mean that for real...I think we should help every human being that we can until it hurts but everything has a limit and we have to be realistic...

well apparently you did yes

I don't know what you are talking about...you can moan and p*ss and wail all you want but reality is we help a lot of people

now how do I know this?...funny you should ask...oh wait, you didn't....well I'll tell ya anywhoo by interacting with those who have been helped ..it's called adult education and they bring their babies with them

what I am saying is quit reading all the garbage, put down your poison pen and interact with some people of light that are actually doing what you say no one is doing...because it's a fact...I deal with fact...black, and white...I may live in the grey zone but I never lose sight of the black and white.

as for the skin colour, lots of black mixed in with the white eh ;-)

we're nice until we aren't ... we seem to be doing okay so far and the reason for that is our lack of extreme... extremes are what kill a country...moderation is the key...so far we are still fairly moderate but the more wingbats that head to one side produce other wingbats heading to the other...that's not good and we are teetering

Canadian leftists are different than American leftists. The former are loyal to their country. The latter are loyal to the acquisition and maintenance of political power at all costs.
 

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lmfao....funny that eh ;-)
well in Canada it is yeah...I'm what's known as a realistic left...we are all warm and snuggly and supportive but we keep an eye on reality...no use loading up the boat if it's going to sink us all...and all kidding aside, I mean that for real...I think we should help every human being that we can until it hurts but everything has a limit and we have to be realistic...

What has always intrigued me was that there is a misconception between the two countries on what liberal and conservative is. How some Canadians think their conservatives would be considered left leaning here. Perhaps in the past that was true but I do not see it at all these days. Here our liberals would consider Canada's sensible immigration policy far right and cruel for example. Our conservatives dream of having an immigration policy like that.
 

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Here our liberals would consider Canada's sensible immigration policy far right and cruel for example. Our conservatives dream of having an immigration policy like that.
The two countries certainly don't mind creating refugees, is that about 7M of them (all being Muslim is not an accident) in Iraq, Syria and Libya. (the short list)
 

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Canadian leftists are different than American leftists. The former are loyal to their country. The latter are loyal to the acquisition and maintenance of political power at all costs.
You forgot the ones that let their marching orders come from Israel. Nothing wrong with supporting them as long as that same level of support includes the surrounding Nations as well. You have lost the battle when that support is a one-way street and that is what it is, they speak and Canada jumps, Canada speaks and they say 'fuk off'.
 

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The two countries certainly don't mind creating refugees, is that about 7M of them (all being Muslim is not an accident) in Iraq, Syria and Libya. (the short list)

Yep it is all our fault that muslim countries are full of terrorists and ruled by despots. Israel is the one shining beacon of hope in the whole middle east.
 

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Canadian leftists are different than American leftists. The former are loyal to their country. The latter are loyal to the acquisition and maintenance of political power at all costs.
hm, thanks for the input...interesting

What has always intrigued me was that there is a misconception between the two countries on what liberal and conservative is. How some Canadians think their conservatives would be considered left leaning here. Perhaps in the past that was true but I do not see it at all these days. Here our liberals would consider Canada's sensible immigration policy far right and cruel for example. Our conservatives dream of having an immigration policy like that.
thanks for this input too Eagle...I am going to have to think harder about it since BT has given me some food for thought too.
 

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Yep it is all our fault that muslim countries are full of terrorists and ruled by despots. Israel is the one shining beacon of hope in the whole middle east.

Yeah, it seems the likes of George Bush, Barack Obama and Dick Cheney are totally to blame while Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Kadaffy and Idi Amin are totally blameless! :) :) :) :)
 

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lmfao....funny that eh ;-)
well in Canada it is yeah...I'm what's known as a realistic left...we are all warm and snuggly and supportive but we keep an eye on reality...
That would be reality through the eyes of Harper rather than reality through the eyes of a refugee he helped create. With your eye on reality how did you miss the CIA as a drug trafficker ? There are a lot more stories than that one that point to 'our white hat as being not so pure as the driven snow.

no use loading up the boat if it's going to sink us all...and all kidding aside, I mean that for real...I think we should help every human being that we can until it hurts but everything has a limit and we have to be realistic...
Canada is already sunk, we are a follower rather than a leader. The illusion that we went into disaster zones to hep eliminate suffering has been replaced by us being a part of a group that created misery for millions of people just so we can enjoy the same standard of living we have had all along only gas is $2/gal cheaper. That was the statement that stopped the complains in the US about the illegal invasion of Iraq. That is where our moral line is and that is what 'the limit' is based on. If we had morals we wouldn't be creating refugees, so far the ones we are holding back from being able to return to Israel as that is their 'home and native land'. A clear case of we get to reap what we sowed. The only way Muslims are a threat is if their stories get out about just who is making their life miserable. We wouldn't let any outside nation create that kind of devestation to any part of Canada so why do we get a clap on the back for doing the same in other Nation when we and all our friends deserve a bitch slap instead.

Your call situation. You are standing on a beach with your children as your husband has already been killed recently by the group with machetes are approaching you and the ones with you. Do you get into the boat or not? Not being able to help you is one thing, making sure your boat doesn't get to any other land is quite another. If we were interested in helping the 3M refugees in just Libya then it would have started long ago.

well apparently you did yes
I'm thinking not unless it is out active participation in creating hell for others while being buries as deep in denial as humanly possible. The last dead Canadian soldier that dies is the one in Iraq that was a forward spotter when he got killed. The spin story is was a whole 100 yards away from the spotting position when he was killed. If you can't spot the crap in that deviation then they don't have to deceive you as you are willing to do it to yourself for some reason. That would make you one of the ones that would give up the protest if it saved you a few dollars in gas. It's a big crowd so don't feel like this is singling you out.

I don't know what you are talking about...you can moan and p*ss and wail all you want but reality is we help a lot of people
Who is 'we'? When you help just your friends there is nothing special or noble about it as it is a collective relation rather than being one of 'charity with no strings attached'.
On the international level the IMF is the score keeper, if you have a big loan from them then you are part of the club. For every billion they give you then you give them back that and 10% move (over time that 10% becomes 100% or more) Porky in the Ukraine seems to be struggling to get $30B to 'solve his financial problem' and that still leaves the poor worse off than they were before he came to 'their rescue'. Thew traitors of the people are the ones who get the rewards. The IMF loan being offered to Iraq is $880B, who is going to pay that off, the locals (what is left) by releasing all claims to the oil in the ground.

now how do I know this?...funny you should ask...oh wait, you didn't....well I'll tell ya anywhoo by interacting with those who have been helped ..it's called adult education and they bring their babies with them
How many of the 3M refugees from Libya have you talked to in the last 6 months.? If so did you mention that we helped them become refugees because we love them so much. All you are showing me is how big a set of blinders you are wearing. No dead baby pic is pretty much a rule around here. It is impossible to justify that so it is banned and replaced by the generic term that takes the human element out of it and replaces it with a meaningless number or association to terrorists somehow. Say Muslim and terrorist is the first collective thought of most Canadians that pops up, just like intended so you might as well be on a hypnotist's stage for all the independent though you are inputting. Repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it just to gety you to shut up.

what I am saying is quit reading all the garbage, put down your poison pen and interact with some people of light that are actually doing what you say no one is doing...because it's a fact...I deal with fact...black, and white...I may live in the grey zone but I never lose sight of the black and white.
Why have a forum section called International Politics if only one side is promoted as being the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth when it can be shown to be a lie. That is your denial kicking in rather than it being mine. You should agree that insanity is the term to use when a person is at home and they are all kind and generous to the ones they meet in they 'private hours' but their day jobs is based on creating misery for the ones that doing want you around them as many of their loved ones end up dead when they show up. That is a truth that leaves a bitter taste in your mouth once it actually sinks in. You 'save ' 100 kids a year, Ottawa kill 100,000 kids a year for no other reason that is creates better profits for the 'shareholders on Wall St and Political cronies in about 7 different Nations. Which is a bigger danger to 'people', a tragic accident where somebody says 'You better not do that again.', or the Queen of England telling the leaders and population of Scotland that independence would be a 'bad move', a 'very bad mistake with repercussions'.
Our motto should be the same one the EU Banks gave to the Bank of Canada some time ago. Join us and pay us $25B a year or buck us and we will create enough instability that the refugees in your own country will cost you $100B/yr. Some choice. You may sleep good at night choosing to knuckle under, that may not hold true for your grandkids.

as for the skin colour, lots of black mixed in with the white eh ;-)
So 2M 'white folks' moved south into Africa. Is the guy the vid is about a black guy or a white guy?

we're nice until we aren't ... we seem to be doing okay so far and the reason for that is our lack of extreme... extremes are what kill a country...moderation is the key...so far we are still fairly moderate but the more wingbats that head to one side produce other wingbats heading to the other...that's not good and we are teetering
Morality doesn't have a switch, if you can become immoral then your morality was only an illusion in the first place. Morality is how you react to others that are as far away from your 'collective group' as possible. Here the overwhelming thought is the refugees should handle their won problem while ignoring the facts that we are actively involved in other countries making damn sure they don't get a chance to advance in the same direction.
There is not teetering, how many speeches from the elected ones that say 'Canada' will take orders from big business or Israel or both, full stop.

Yep it is all our fault that muslim countries are full of terrorists and ruled by despots. Israel is the one shining beacon of hope in the whole middle east.
I hope the irony in your 'headline' were a bit more difficult to comment on. You have some relatives from Europe that was given sancury by the CIA after WWII because you would be able to put on an SS uniform and not have to change one word in any of your posts. Hitler's masters would be proud of you.


Here is who ruled Iran for 25, the Shaw was a figurehead.


Once you bury all their crimes. That program is going as smooth as their banking industry, playing it off the cuff with lies being their favorite tool.
 

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That would be reality through the eyes of Harper rather than reality through the eyes of a refugee he helped create. With your eye on reality how did you miss the CIA as a drug trafficker ? There are a lot more stories than that one that point to 'our white hat as being not so pure as the driven snow.


Canada is already sunk, we are a follower rather than a leader. The illusion that we went into disaster zones to hep eliminate suffering has been replaced by us being a part of a group that created misery for millions of people just so we can enjoy the same standard of living we have had all along only gas is $2/gal cheaper. That was the statement that stopped the complains in the US about the illegal invasion of Iraq. That is where our moral line is and that is what 'the limit' is based on. If we had morals we wouldn't be creating refugees, so far the ones we are holding back from being able to return to Israel as that is their 'home and native land'. A clear case of we get to reap what we sowed. The only way Muslims are a threat is if their stories get out about just who is making their life miserable. We wouldn't let any outside nation create that kind of devestation to any part of Canada so why do we get a clap on the back for doing the same in other Nation when we and all our friends deserve a bitch slap instead.

Your call situation. You are standing on a beach with your children as your husband has already been killed recently by the group with machetes are approaching you and the ones with you. Do you get into the boat or not? Not being able to help you is one thing, making sure your boat doesn't get to any other land is quite another. If we were interested in helping the 3M refugees in just Libya then it would have started long ago.


I'm thinking not unless it is out active participation in creating hell for others while being buries as deep in denial as humanly possible. The last dead Canadian soldier that dies is the one in Iraq that was a forward spotter when he got killed. The spin story is was a whole 100 yards away from the spotting position when he was killed. If you can't spot the crap in that deviation then they don't have to deceive you as you are willing to do it to yourself for some reason. That would make you one of the ones that would give up the protest if it saved you a few dollars in gas. It's a big crowd so don't feel like this is singling you out.


Who is 'we'? When you help just your friends there is nothing special or noble about it as it is a collective relation rather than being one of 'charity with no strings attached'.
On the international level the IMF is the score keeper, if you have a big loan from them then you are part of the club. For every billion they give you then you give them back that and 10% move (over time that 10% becomes 100% or more) Porky in the Ukraine seems to be struggling to get $30B to 'solve his financial problem' and that still leaves the poor worse off than they were before he came to 'their rescue'. Thew traitors of the people are the ones who get the rewards. The IMF loan being offered to Iraq is $880B, who is going to pay that off, the locals (what is left) by releasing all claims to the oil in the ground.


How many of the 3M refugees from Libya have you talked to in the last 6 months.? If so did you mention that we helped them become refugees because we love them so much. All you are showing me is how big a set of blinders you are wearing. No dead baby pic is pretty much a rule around here. It is impossible to justify that so it is banned and replaced by the generic term that takes the human element out of it and replaces it with a meaningless number or association to terrorists somehow. Say Muslim and terrorist is the first collective thought of most Canadians that pops up, just like intended so you might as well be on a hypnotist's stage for all the independent though you are inputting. Repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it just to gety you to shut up.


Why have a forum section called International Politics if only one side is promoted as being the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth when it can be shown to be a lie. That is your denial kicking in rather than it being mine. You should agree that insanity is the term to use when a person is at home and they are all kind and generous to the ones they meet in they 'private hours' but their day jobs is based on creating misery for the ones that doing want you around them as many of their loved ones end up dead when they show up. That is a truth that leaves a bitter taste in your mouth once it actually sinks in. You 'save ' 100 kids a year, Ottawa kill 100,000 kids a year for no other reason that is creates better profits for the 'shareholders on Wall St and Political cronies in about 7 different Nations. Which is a bigger danger to 'people', a tragic accident where somebody says 'You better not do that again.', or the Queen of England telling the leaders and population of Scotland that independence would be a 'bad move', a 'very bad mistake with repercussions'.
Our motto should be the same one the EU Banks gave to the Bank of Canada some time ago. Join us and pay us $25B a year or buck us and we will create enough instability that the refugees in your own country will cost you $100B/yr. Some choice. You may sleep good at night choosing to knuckle under, that may not hold true for your grandkids.


So 2M 'white folks' moved south into Africa. Is the guy the vid is about a black guy or a white guy?


Morality doesn't have a switch, if you can become immoral then your morality was only an illusion in the first place. Morality is how you react to others that are as far away from your 'collective group' as possible. Here the overwhelming thought is the refugees should handle their won problem while ignoring the facts that we are actively involved in other countries making damn sure they don't get a chance to advance in the same direction.
There is not teetering, how many speeches from the elected ones that say 'Canada' will take orders from big business or Israel or both, full stop.


I hope the irony in your 'headline' were a bit more difficult to comment on. You have some relatives from Europe that was given sancury by the CIA after WWII because you would be able to put on an SS uniform and not have to change one word in any of your posts. Hitler's masters would be proud of you.


Here is who ruled Iran for 25, the Shaw was a figurehead.


Once you bury all their crimes. That program is going as smooth as their banking industry, playing it off the cuff with lies being their favorite tool.

actually there ARE different levels/degrees to morality and ethics...

I did attempt to read through your post but I can't process it...it's overwhelming and there are just too many angles to every piece to follow your train of thought and understand your conclusion. Sorry

It's too bad because I am certain there are some interesting parts to it.

And informative angles too.
 

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actually there ARE different levels/degrees to morality and ethics...

I did attempt to read through your post but I can't process it...it's overwhelming and there are just too many angles to every piece to follow your train of thought and understand your conclusion. Sorry

It's too bad because I am certain there are some interesting parts to it.

And informative angles too.

You are far too kind to our rambling idiot.
 
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MHz

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actually there ARE different levels/degrees to morality and ethics...

I did attempt to read through your post but I can't process it...it's overwhelming and there are just too many angles to every piece to follow your train of thought and understand your conclusion. Sorry

It's too bad because I am certain there are some interesting parts to it.

And informative angles too.
Deceptions tend to be that way, it wears the reader down so the task never gets done.

In the past we had Government watchdogs that did the summations for us, that was buried because it was too effective at it's job. Front Page Challenge was the a thorn in the side back then. What would they conclude about 9/11 and Iraq and Syria and ISIS. They would prove that small planes are not safe to fly in.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=front+page+challenge+

You are far too kind to our rambling friend.
Who said I was a friend?