Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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I think the critical issue is the need to pass tough, effective legislation on the deadly threat of pointy sticks.
When you think of all the useless death and destruction that has been caused by pointy sticks, it's staggering.
If it saves JUST ONE LIFE. . .
When you think of all the useless death and destruction that has been caused by pointy sticks, it's staggering.
If it saves JUST ONE LIFE. . .
Nova Scotia killer showed off his 'military' style gun, said it was for movie
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Michael Tutton
Publishing date:Mar 08, 2021 • 9 minutes ago • 3 minute read • comment bubbleJoin the conversation
An undated photo of Gabriel Wortman.
An undated photo of Gabriel Wortman. PHOTO BY RCMP NOVA SCOTIA /Handout
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HALIFAX — In the months before he killed 22 people in the Nova Scotia mass shooting, the gunman — who didn’t have a firearms licence — showed a powerful rifle to others and made up a fanciful story about its purpose, witnesses say.
Newly released court documents quote a former “work-related friend” of Gabriel Wortman telling police that near the end of December 2019 or early 2020, the killer opened the trunk of his car and “showed him a big military gun.”
The work associate, who said he’d known the killer for two decades, told police the gunman “brought the gun back from Maine and said that it had no firing pin and that it was for a movie he was going to be making.”
The gunman would go on to use illegally obtained guns with over-capacity magazines, including two semi-automatic rifles and two pistols, to commit his murders during a 13-hour rampage on April 18-19, 2020.
Past summaries of interviews that police carried out to secure search warrants have said guns were obtained by the killer in the United States and that the 51-year-old denturist — who was shot dead by police on April 19 — smuggled the weapons across the border.
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Lisa Banfield, the gunman’s common-law spouse, is also quoted as telling police that he “would show guns to people.”
According to an April 28, 2020, statement, Banfield told police that Wortman “showed her sister’s boyfriend a gun at the warehouse and he also showed her brother Jimmy the handgun.”
Banfield’s statement includes her account of how on the night of April 18 she and Wortman argued, and he went on to assault her before she managed to escape into the woods.
She has told police that the killer also fired one of his guns around her.
Banfield told police the killer confined her in a replica police vehicle with a divider between the front and back seats. “She was able to slide the window (of the divider) open and crawl through and escape before Gabriel Wortman returned,” says the summary of her statement.
“Wortman had a friend … who had a firearms licence and Lisa believed that Gabriel would tell (name redacted) what kind of gun he wanted and (he) would get the gun,” she’s quoted as telling police in the edited statement about the killer’s trips to Maine to acquire firearms.
“Lisa Banfield said that Gabriel Wortman had told her how he would wrap firearms and place them in the tonneau cover in order to transport them back to Canada from the United States.” A tonneau cover goes over the unoccupied rear compartment of a vehicle.
A spokeswoman for the RCMP declined comment on whether police ever received a report from anyone about Wortman having illegal guns.
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The court documents also indicate that the gunman wasn’t shy about showing others his replica RCMP police vehicle and lying about why he had it.
A friend of one of the gunman’s victims, Aaron Tuck, is quoted as telling police in a May 6, 2020 statement that he and Tuck saw an unmarked police car, with a decal package laid out on a table nearby, at a residence belonging to Wortman.
The friend told police, “Wortman said that he was fixing up the car to use in parades.”
The work associate was also told by the gunman about his plans for a replica car.
“He was getting his car all done up like a RCMP car and…(the witness) thought the car was for the movie too,” he said in the April 27, 2020 statement.
During his rampage, the killer drove a replica RCMP police vehicle as he carried out his killings and eluded police.
torontosun.com
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Michael Tutton
Publishing date:Mar 08, 2021 • 9 minutes ago • 3 minute read • comment bubbleJoin the conversation
An undated photo of Gabriel Wortman.
An undated photo of Gabriel Wortman. PHOTO BY RCMP NOVA SCOTIA /Handout
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HALIFAX — In the months before he killed 22 people in the Nova Scotia mass shooting, the gunman — who didn’t have a firearms licence — showed a powerful rifle to others and made up a fanciful story about its purpose, witnesses say.
Newly released court documents quote a former “work-related friend” of Gabriel Wortman telling police that near the end of December 2019 or early 2020, the killer opened the trunk of his car and “showed him a big military gun.”
The work associate, who said he’d known the killer for two decades, told police the gunman “brought the gun back from Maine and said that it had no firing pin and that it was for a movie he was going to be making.”
The gunman would go on to use illegally obtained guns with over-capacity magazines, including two semi-automatic rifles and two pistols, to commit his murders during a 13-hour rampage on April 18-19, 2020.
Past summaries of interviews that police carried out to secure search warrants have said guns were obtained by the killer in the United States and that the 51-year-old denturist — who was shot dead by police on April 19 — smuggled the weapons across the border.
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Lisa Banfield, the gunman’s common-law spouse, is also quoted as telling police that he “would show guns to people.”
According to an April 28, 2020, statement, Banfield told police that Wortman “showed her sister’s boyfriend a gun at the warehouse and he also showed her brother Jimmy the handgun.”
Banfield’s statement includes her account of how on the night of April 18 she and Wortman argued, and he went on to assault her before she managed to escape into the woods.
She has told police that the killer also fired one of his guns around her.
Banfield told police the killer confined her in a replica police vehicle with a divider between the front and back seats. “She was able to slide the window (of the divider) open and crawl through and escape before Gabriel Wortman returned,” says the summary of her statement.
“Wortman had a friend … who had a firearms licence and Lisa believed that Gabriel would tell (name redacted) what kind of gun he wanted and (he) would get the gun,” she’s quoted as telling police in the edited statement about the killer’s trips to Maine to acquire firearms.
“Lisa Banfield said that Gabriel Wortman had told her how he would wrap firearms and place them in the tonneau cover in order to transport them back to Canada from the United States.” A tonneau cover goes over the unoccupied rear compartment of a vehicle.
A spokeswoman for the RCMP declined comment on whether police ever received a report from anyone about Wortman having illegal guns.
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The court documents also indicate that the gunman wasn’t shy about showing others his replica RCMP police vehicle and lying about why he had it.
A friend of one of the gunman’s victims, Aaron Tuck, is quoted as telling police in a May 6, 2020 statement that he and Tuck saw an unmarked police car, with a decal package laid out on a table nearby, at a residence belonging to Wortman.
The friend told police, “Wortman said that he was fixing up the car to use in parades.”
The work associate was also told by the gunman about his plans for a replica car.
“He was getting his car all done up like a RCMP car and…(the witness) thought the car was for the movie too,” he said in the April 27, 2020 statement.
During his rampage, the killer drove a replica RCMP police vehicle as he carried out his killings and eluded police.
Nova Scotia killer showed off his 'military' style gun, said it was for movie
HALIFAX — In the months before he killed 22 people in the Nova Scotia mass shooting, the gunman — who didn’t have a firearms licence — showed a powerful rifle to ot…
They already did that you can't buy old Explorer Crown Vic or Taurus anymore
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Canadians favour stricter gun control, mandatory buyback of banned firearms: Poll
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Joan Bryden
Publishing date:Mar 30, 2021 • 19 hours ago • 2 minute read • 5 Comments
An unidentified man holds a Colt .45 semi-automatic pistol in Manassas, Virginia, July 22, 2007.
An unidentified man holds a Colt .45 semi-automatic pistol in Manassas, Virginia, July 22, 2007. PHOTO BY KAREN BLEIER /AFP PHOTO/Karen BLEIER/FILES
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OTTAWA — A new poll suggests two-thirds of Canadians favour stricter gun-control laws — and more than half believe that should include a mandatory buyback program for prohibited firearms.
The poll, conducted by Leger and the Association for Canadian Studies, was conducted March 26-28, amid controversy over the federal Liberal government’s latest gun legislation.
Bill C-21 proposes a buyback of many recently banned firearms that the government deems to be assault-style weapons, but owners would be allowed to keep them under strict conditions, including that they be registered and securely stored.
Fifty-two per cent of poll respondents said the buyback program should be mandatory, with the threat of fines for gun owners who don’t participate — in line with what a leading gun-control group, PolySeSouvient, advocates.
Sixty-six per cent said there should be stricter gun-control regulations in general.
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The online survey of 1,523 adult Canadians cannot be assigned a margin of error because internet-based polls are not considered to be random samples.
Bill C-21 has been denounced by PolySeSouvient, which maintains the legislation is too weak to salvage and is urging MPs to vote against it.
The group wants a mandatory buyback of recently outlawed firearms to ensure they cannot be misused. It also wants a national handgun ban to avoid a patchwork of laws across the country.
Instead, the bill would give municipalities discretion to ban handguns, if they choose, through bylaws restricting their possession, storage and transportation.
Just 35 per cent of poll respondents agreed that the buyback program should be voluntary, as the government is proposing.
The survey did not ask about respondents’ views on banning handguns.
In general, however, a strong majority (66%) supported stricter gun-control laws, while just 10% said control measures should be relaxed and 19% said they should remain as is.
Support for stronger measures was highest in Quebec, where 62%of respondents favoured a mandatory buyback program and 75% favoured stricter gun control in general.
PolySeSouvient is associated with the survivors and families of victims of the 1989 mass shooting at Montreal’s Ecole Polytechnique, which left 14 women dead.
Several family members of women killed in the massacre recently said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would no longer be welcome at annual commemorations unless his government strengthens Bill C-21.
torontosun.com
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Joan Bryden
Publishing date:Mar 30, 2021 • 19 hours ago • 2 minute read • 5 Comments
An unidentified man holds a Colt .45 semi-automatic pistol in Manassas, Virginia, July 22, 2007.
An unidentified man holds a Colt .45 semi-automatic pistol in Manassas, Virginia, July 22, 2007. PHOTO BY KAREN BLEIER /AFP PHOTO/Karen BLEIER/FILES
Article content
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests two-thirds of Canadians favour stricter gun-control laws — and more than half believe that should include a mandatory buyback program for prohibited firearms.
The poll, conducted by Leger and the Association for Canadian Studies, was conducted March 26-28, amid controversy over the federal Liberal government’s latest gun legislation.
Bill C-21 proposes a buyback of many recently banned firearms that the government deems to be assault-style weapons, but owners would be allowed to keep them under strict conditions, including that they be registered and securely stored.
Fifty-two per cent of poll respondents said the buyback program should be mandatory, with the threat of fines for gun owners who don’t participate — in line with what a leading gun-control group, PolySeSouvient, advocates.
Sixty-six per cent said there should be stricter gun-control regulations in general.
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The online survey of 1,523 adult Canadians cannot be assigned a margin of error because internet-based polls are not considered to be random samples.
Bill C-21 has been denounced by PolySeSouvient, which maintains the legislation is too weak to salvage and is urging MPs to vote against it.
The group wants a mandatory buyback of recently outlawed firearms to ensure they cannot be misused. It also wants a national handgun ban to avoid a patchwork of laws across the country.
Instead, the bill would give municipalities discretion to ban handguns, if they choose, through bylaws restricting their possession, storage and transportation.
Just 35 per cent of poll respondents agreed that the buyback program should be voluntary, as the government is proposing.
The survey did not ask about respondents’ views on banning handguns.
In general, however, a strong majority (66%) supported stricter gun-control laws, while just 10% said control measures should be relaxed and 19% said they should remain as is.
Support for stronger measures was highest in Quebec, where 62%of respondents favoured a mandatory buyback program and 75% favoured stricter gun control in general.
PolySeSouvient is associated with the survivors and families of victims of the 1989 mass shooting at Montreal’s Ecole Polytechnique, which left 14 women dead.
Several family members of women killed in the massacre recently said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would no longer be welcome at annual commemorations unless his government strengthens Bill C-21.
Canadians favour stricter gun control, mandatory buyback of banned firearms: Poll
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests two-thirds of Canadians favour stricter gun-control laws — and more than half believe that should include a mandatory buyback program f…
Canadians favour stricter gun control, mandatory buyback of banned firearms: Poll
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Joan Bryden
Publishing date:Mar 30, 2021 • 19 hours ago • 2 minute read • 5 Comments
An unidentified man holds a Colt .45 semi-automatic pistol in Manassas, Virginia, July 22, 2007.
An unidentified man holds a Colt .45 semi-automatic pistol in Manassas, Virginia, July 22, 2007. PHOTO BY KAREN BLEIER /AFP PHOTO/Karen BLEIER/FILES
Article content
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests two-thirds of Canadians favour stricter gun-control laws — and more than half believe that should include a mandatory buyback program for prohibited firearms.
The poll, conducted by Leger and the Association for Canadian Studies, was conducted March 26-28, amid controversy over the federal Liberal government’s latest gun legislation.
Bill C-21 proposes a buyback of many recently banned firearms that the government deems to be assault-style weapons, but owners would be allowed to keep them under strict conditions, including that they be registered and securely stored.
Fifty-two per cent of poll respondents said the buyback program should be mandatory, with the threat of fines for gun owners who don’t participate — in line with what a leading gun-control group, PolySeSouvient, advocates.
Sixty-six per cent said there should be stricter gun-control regulations in general.
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The online survey of 1,523 adult Canadians cannot be assigned a margin of error because internet-based polls are not considered to be random samples.
Bill C-21 has been denounced by PolySeSouvient, which maintains the legislation is too weak to salvage and is urging MPs to vote against it.
The group wants a mandatory buyback of recently outlawed firearms to ensure they cannot be misused. It also wants a national handgun ban to avoid a patchwork of laws across the country.
Instead, the bill would give municipalities discretion to ban handguns, if they choose, through bylaws restricting their possession, storage and transportation.
Just 35 per cent of poll respondents agreed that the buyback program should be voluntary, as the government is proposing.
The survey did not ask about respondents’ views on banning handguns.
In general, however, a strong majority (66%) supported stricter gun-control laws, while just 10% said control measures should be relaxed and 19% said they should remain as is.
Support for stronger measures was highest in Quebec, where 62%of respondents favoured a mandatory buyback program and 75% favoured stricter gun control in general.
PolySeSouvient is associated with the survivors and families of victims of the 1989 mass shooting at Montreal’s Ecole Polytechnique, which left 14 women dead.
Several family members of women killed in the massacre recently said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would no longer be welcome at annual commemorations unless his government strengthens Bill C-21.
Canadians favour stricter gun control, mandatory buyback of banned firearms: Poll
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests two-thirds of Canadians favour stricter gun-control laws — and more than half believe that should include a mandatory buyback program f…
Fake News
I wonder where they posted this online poll on University campuses?Canadians favour stricter gun control, mandatory buyback of banned firearms: Poll
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Joan Bryden
Publishing date:Mar 30, 2021 • 19 hours ago • 2 minute read • 5 Comments
An unidentified man holds a Colt .45 semi-automatic pistol in Manassas, Virginia, July 22, 2007.
An unidentified man holds a Colt .45 semi-automatic pistol in Manassas, Virginia, July 22, 2007. PHOTO BY KAREN BLEIER /AFP PHOTO/Karen BLEIER/FILES
Article content
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests two-thirds of Canadians favour stricter gun-control laws — and more than half believe that should include a mandatory buyback program for prohibited firearms.
The poll, conducted by Leger and the Association for Canadian Studies, was conducted March 26-28, amid controversy over the federal Liberal government’s latest gun legislation.
Bill C-21 proposes a buyback of many recently banned firearms that the government deems to be assault-style weapons, but owners would be allowed to keep them under strict conditions, including that they be registered and securely stored.
Fifty-two per cent of poll respondents said the buyback program should be mandatory, with the threat of fines for gun owners who don’t participate — in line with what a leading gun-control group, PolySeSouvient, advocates.
Sixty-six per cent said there should be stricter gun-control regulations in general.
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The online survey of 1,523 adult Canadians cannot be assigned a margin of error because internet-based polls are not considered to be random samples.
Bill C-21 has been denounced by PolySeSouvient, which maintains the legislation is too weak to salvage and is urging MPs to vote against it.
The group wants a mandatory buyback of recently outlawed firearms to ensure they cannot be misused. It also wants a national handgun ban to avoid a patchwork of laws across the country.
Instead, the bill would give municipalities discretion to ban handguns, if they choose, through bylaws restricting their possession, storage and transportation.
Just 35 per cent of poll respondents agreed that the buyback program should be voluntary, as the government is proposing.
The survey did not ask about respondents’ views on banning handguns.
In general, however, a strong majority (66%) supported stricter gun-control laws, while just 10% said control measures should be relaxed and 19% said they should remain as is.
Support for stronger measures was highest in Quebec, where 62%of respondents favoured a mandatory buyback program and 75% favoured stricter gun control in general.
PolySeSouvient is associated with the survivors and families of victims of the 1989 mass shooting at Montreal’s Ecole Polytechnique, which left 14 women dead.
Several family members of women killed in the massacre recently said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would no longer be welcome at annual commemorations unless his government strengthens Bill C-21.
Canadians favour stricter gun control, mandatory buyback of banned firearms: Poll
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests two-thirds of Canadians favour stricter gun-control laws — and more than half believe that should include a mandatory buyback program f…
Polls are rarely accurate or appropriate when the people paying for it are looking for a specific answer.
Biden optimistic "rational" gun control can pass divided Senate
Biden optimistic "rational" gun control can pass divided Senate
Democratic Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut said "don't count us out" on getting 60 votes on gun control legislation.
I guess if they want my guns they can come and get'em
Depends on what one calls rational. If they mean ID is required to buy guns, probable it will.
