Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Not according to research. NOVA had a tv documentary about it. I posted the link to it, but you ignored it apparently. The world was getting less violent long before the invention of guns.
DUH
That's not what I said and
laws are only part of the story. Like it has been said 4 million times before to you, criminals don't pay attention to laws.
Sounds to me like laws are the only thing keeping you from being a criminal.
THAT might not be such a bad idea as you might think. Then us guys who are getting sick and tired of all the creeps in the world could just go out and kill them.
That's why these tards hate him and can't stand his free speech...
amazing what it is they are defending isn't it?
I wonder if spilled his beer while riding and dancing on the plane?
Then of course when one posts all MSM citations than certain cowards chicken right out because they are too scared of the facts making them look like the dumbies they really are
- they won't even read the post and then the go around screaming Jones jones jones...LOL...
Poor lil babies...SO TRIGGERED!!! Well, that's the friends of Epstien for ya.
At least Jones stands by his own name like a man, unlike these no name chikintards.
signed
Dan.
Seven countries in seven years eh?. Not one reason for war has proved true so far...
What a bunch of sad sick genocidal lil B*tches. 500,000 dead children were worth it.
Say, I wonder what these lil buggerers are paying for a liter of gas these days?
Remember iran...careful when you ride that plane...missles are everywhere.
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Interesting data here:
In 2015 ...if you don't have a gun, a knife will do
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510006901
In 2015 ...if you don't have a gun, a knife will do
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510006901
And let an emotionally unstable sort like you run rampant? No. Good people don't need laws, though.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT IS A GOOD LEGAL RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the hemerHOID assertion that all guns started out legal.........................
we know that AINT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After all - BOTH Toronto cops and cops in Britain have raided and closed down illegal gun making shops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an article that makes a mockery of LIE-beral plans to reduce gun violence!! With some comments of my own in brackets):
New crime data contradicts government gun plans
By Mark Towhey
Published: December 13, 2019. Updated: December 13, 2019 6:15 PM EST
Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists
The latest crime data released by Statistics Canada make a mockery of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s posturing on gun violence.
(So what else is new? LIE-berals make policy choices related to how many votes they may win - RATHER from a logical or responsible position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The newly released data on homicides and gun violence in Canada during 2018 hold some surprises. Overall, murders are down – not up. Gun killings are down – not up. And gang-related homicides are also down – not up. This holds true almost everywhere in Canada, except in Ontario and Quebec.
(I cannot speak for Quebec but this Ontari-owe citizen is convinced that violent crime in the GTA is almost exclusively the domain of young guys whose parents came here as immigrants during the Pierre Trudeau years!! The current violence graphically illustrates the TOTAL FAILURE of immigration policy imposed by Pierre Trudeau LIE-berals - with Our idiot Boy Justin seeking to impose EVEN WORSE immigrant choices on us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(The despicable LIE-beral habit of selecting immigrants based only on their willingness to VOTE LIE-beral - without regard for their ability to smoothly integrate and become self supporting - WITHOUT resorting to criminal enterprises - is bankrupting the country and the LIE-beral assertion that whites are all “systemic racists” is offering FALSE excuses to the gangland supporters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
For the Liberal government in Ottawa hell-bent on banning hunting and sport rifles, the cold, hard truth spelled out in this StatsCan report is very inconvenient, indeed.
Nationwide, murder was down in 2018
According to StatsCan, there were 651 homicides in Canada last year. That’s down 4% from 2017.
As much as murders are shocking events to good and honest people, and garner 24/7 media coverage, it’s important to remember – as StatsCan points out – homicide is exceedingly rare in Canada.
Compare 651 homicides last year (666 in 2017) to StatsCan figures for other causes of death in 2017 (the last year for which data is publicly available.) 1,968 people died in vehicle accidents. 4,108 died from accidental drug overdoses. 4,904 Canadians died from falls.
A prudent government motivated to reduce death and suffering might focus first on ladders.
(Yes- preventing accidental deaths is not a VOTE WINNER for LIE-berals!! But that hug a thug and blame white people game IS A LIE-beral vote grabber!! With the ADDED BONUS that plea bargaining and early parole make the legal system cheaper to operate - thus saving gravy for LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Gun deaths down overall
Most murders are not committed with firearms. Last year, 249 of Canada’s 651 homicides were committed with a gun, down 8% from 2017 – the first reduction since 2013.
Maybe the wholesale trampling of Canadian freedoms by the government is needed after all.
(LIE-berals generally DESPISE hunting and fishing as neanderthal and un-necessary in our modern world - buying votes from animal lovers and vegetarians IS LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Something’s wrong in Ontario
The national reduction in homicides and gun murders did not hold for Ontario which chalked up 69 more homicides in 2018 than 2017.
Toronto, in particular, had a bad year with 142 homicide victims – the most ever reported in what StatsCan calls the Toronto Census Metropolitan Area since 1981. That’s a 53% increase in victims and a 50% increase in the homicide rate over 2017, says StatsCan.
(LIE-berals do not care to discuss how many of their FAILED immigration choices gravitate to Toronto - where the welfare supports ARE MOST GENEROUS!!!!!!!!!)
In fairness, three high-profile and unusual events helped spike Toronto’s murder toll: the Van Attack in April 2018 that killed 10, the eight serial murders attributed to Bruce MacArthur, plus two people killed during the Danforth terror attack. But, even without these events, the kill rate would still have ballooned 29% in the Toronto CMA.
(The Danforth Muslim terror attack CAN BE BLAMED on LIE-beral immigration policy since the shooter was from a CRAZY drug dealing Muslim family background!! His brother DIED of a drug overdose - after testing out his own fentanyl laced product - and are we not in the midst of a fentanyl CRISIS?? So who needs idiots like this roaming the streets of Toronto?? Other than vote seeking LIE-bersals - who figure they can win more votes from angry Muslims?????????????)
Ontario also posted an increase in gun-related homicides: 36 more last year than in 2017.
Gang homicides down, but…
(Well if enough of thugs shoot their competition then there wont be any competition - and things will be quieter - for a while!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The overall rate of gang-related homicides was down across Canada for the first time in three years – except in Quebec and Ontario.
Still, criminal gangs remain the driving force behind homicides by gun. More than half (51%) of firearm-related homicides were related to gang activity, says Stats Can.
In Toronto, 94% of gang-related homicides were committed with a gun in 2018. That’s a 2% increase over 2017.
(Toronto cops have insisted for decades now- that over 80 percent of all crime in Toronto is drug related - either selling drugs, or protecting turf with violence or being in the sex trade or committing theft in order to get the cash for another fix!!!!)
These facts suggest all the tough talk by Toronto mayor John Tory about banning guns and getting tough on crime have been, in a word, useless.
(The reality is than banning guns has ALREADY BEEN DONE!! Gangsters ARE NOT legally entitled to carry guns anyway!! They are not buying legal weapons from legit sources and certainly ARE NOT entitled to carry their PISTOLS unlocked and fully loaded on the city streets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(The average gang banger has ALREADY VIOLATED MULTIPLE LAWS -that are not being enforced - the moment he steps out of doors with his illegal and illegally stored and illegally loaded weapon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(With the added LIE-beral idiocy of wanting to ban long guns in the hands of legal owners who obey our laws - when gang bangers are all illegally carrying RESTRICTED WEAPONS!!)
It’s an interesting correlation. Where homicides, especially gun killings, are down – the rate of gang-related killing is down. But where it’s up … it’s way up.
It’s almost like criminal gangs are the problem – not lawful gun ownership.
(Gosh!! Why would LIE-berals not notice such a thing?? Shall we SAY THEY DID NOTICE and have decided there are votes to be won from that hug a thug legal crap they so enjoy displaying for a disgusted white public - that to often does not vote LIE-beral anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Illegal handguns the problem, not rifles
According to StatsCan, handguns have been the firearm of choice for murderers since the early 1990s. In 2018, 57% of gun-related homicides were committed with handguns.
Nation-wide, 83% of gang-related homicides used a gun – 85% of those were handguns.
Once again these data from the government’s own statistics agency point out the madness behind Trudeau plan to fight gun violence. Instead of targeting gangs and illegal handguns in cities, he is focussing his legislation on banning rifles owned by law-abiding citizens in rural areas.
(Rural folk have a dismaying habit of disliking LIE-berals - and that makes them fair game!! And of course there are votes to be won from animal rights groups like PETA who DEPLORE any hunting or fishing or meat consumption at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Most murder victims are criminals
The StatsCan data also confirm another fact the government prefers to ignore: most murderers are repeat offenders and half of their victims are themselves criminals.
In 2018, 63% of adults 18 years and older accused of homicide had a criminal record in Canada. One-third of accused persons 12 to 17 years old had a youth record.
Just over half (51%) of adult homicide victims in 2018 had a Canadian criminal record.
(It would be interesting to find out how many of the dead are - as I have suggested - poorly integrated children of Trudeau selected immigrants?? Certainly anecdotal evidence supports my claim - but LIE-berals LONG AGO MADE IT ILLEGAL to collect information that might support my belief and claim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(The only real study ever made was done - illegally - about 30 years ago by a disgusted cop who claimed that about 86 percent of crimes in Toronto were committed by roughly 13 percent of the population -with the added assertion that most gang members were black youth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Naturally LIE-berals silenced the cop and he faced disciplinary action for producing those “illegal” statistics!! LIE-berals mauled the messenger and IGNORED the message - standard behaviour for embarrassed LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
If the government spent as much time and money tracking known criminals as they do law-abiding gun owners, odds are Canada’s murder rate would plummet to record lows.
Just a thought.
(Yes- sound logic that LIE-berals will ignore so they can buy votes and save on legal system operating cost gravy - at the expense of the general public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is TYPICAL LIE-beral CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Natives have the RIGHT to hunt and fish with bows and arrows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO AN AR 15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NATIVES HAVE THE RIGHT TO GROW TOBACCO AND TO SMOKE IT IN A PIPE.....................................
FOR PERSONAL RELIGIOUS REASONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO SNEER AT EXCISE TAXES OR TO SELL CIGARETTES TO WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Further- Treaty 7 - the one that covers most of the Prairie provinces and parts of B.C................................
actually contains SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO THE RIGHT OF GOVT TO "FROM TIME TO TIME ENACT SUCH LAWS FOR
CONSERVATION AND HUNTING AS IT DEEMS NECESSARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LAWYER AND CREE NATIVE William WUTTUNEE HAS WRITTEN A BOOK ABOUT THIS STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND BY SPEAKING THE TRUTH HE HAS BEEN BANNED FROM SETTING FOOT ON MANY NATIVE RESERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ONE WONDERS IF NATIVES ARE PROUD TO HAVE PICKED UP THE WORST AND MOST DESPICABLE HABITS ......................
OF WHITE POLITICIANS?????????????????????????????????????
New Zealand Gun Buyback Was An ‘Unmitigated Failure’
Many New Zealand gun owners have refused to participate in a mandatory buyback program of military-style semi-automatic weapons implemented after the Christchurch massacre in March.
Despite a penalty of up to five years in prison, up to two-thirds of firearms banned by the legislation were not turned in before the Friday deadline by New Zealand gun owners, the Washington Post reported.
While 47,000 semi-automatic rifles have been collected, according to police statistics, a government commissioned study determined that the small nation likely contains between 56,000 and 170,000 now banned weapons, according to 1 News.
New Zealand’s largest gun rights advocacy group, the Licensed Firearms Owners Council, remarked that the buyback program has been an “unmitigated failure.”
Police Minister Stuart Nash blamed the government’s inability to enforce its buyback scheme on a lack of gun registration. “The problem is we just don’t know exactly how many guns are out in the community, this is why we need a register, to enable Police to better track firearms,” he said, according to 1 News.
On March 15, 2019, a right-wing extremist opened fire on two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand during Friday prayer, killing 51 worshipers and injuring 49 others. As a result of this terrorist attack, New Zealand’s parliament quickly passed legislation to ban all weapons similar to the ones used by the shooter.
Stuart Nash. (Reuters/Jorge Silva)
When it was first proposed, New Zealand’s plan to confiscate military-style weapons was praised by members of the American left.
Several Democratic presidential candidates, most notably New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker and former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke, have been vocal with their support for similar programs. (RELATED: Bernie Sanders Discovers Second Amendment Rights)
However, some experts said that the failure of New Zealand’s confiscation efforts bode poorly for similar programs proposed in the United States.
“The great majority of American rifles and handguns are semi automatic. I can’t imagine American gun owners going along with this [buybacks], even to the modest level of compliance that New Zealand seems to have gotten,” Eugene Volokh, a legal scholar from the University of California, told the Post.
The Post also noted how the vast majority of New Zealanders support more gun control, and that the country lacks constitutional protections for the right to bear arms — unlike the U.S.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/20/new-zealand-gun-buy-back-fails/
Many New Zealand gun owners have refused to participate in a mandatory buyback program of military-style semi-automatic weapons implemented after the Christchurch massacre in March.
Despite a penalty of up to five years in prison, up to two-thirds of firearms banned by the legislation were not turned in before the Friday deadline by New Zealand gun owners, the Washington Post reported.
While 47,000 semi-automatic rifles have been collected, according to police statistics, a government commissioned study determined that the small nation likely contains between 56,000 and 170,000 now banned weapons, according to 1 News.
New Zealand’s largest gun rights advocacy group, the Licensed Firearms Owners Council, remarked that the buyback program has been an “unmitigated failure.”
Police Minister Stuart Nash blamed the government’s inability to enforce its buyback scheme on a lack of gun registration. “The problem is we just don’t know exactly how many guns are out in the community, this is why we need a register, to enable Police to better track firearms,” he said, according to 1 News.
On March 15, 2019, a right-wing extremist opened fire on two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand during Friday prayer, killing 51 worshipers and injuring 49 others. As a result of this terrorist attack, New Zealand’s parliament quickly passed legislation to ban all weapons similar to the ones used by the shooter.
Stuart Nash. (Reuters/Jorge Silva)
When it was first proposed, New Zealand’s plan to confiscate military-style weapons was praised by members of the American left.
Several Democratic presidential candidates, most notably New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker and former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke, have been vocal with their support for similar programs. (RELATED: Bernie Sanders Discovers Second Amendment Rights)
However, some experts said that the failure of New Zealand’s confiscation efforts bode poorly for similar programs proposed in the United States.
“The great majority of American rifles and handguns are semi automatic. I can’t imagine American gun owners going along with this [buybacks], even to the modest level of compliance that New Zealand seems to have gotten,” Eugene Volokh, a legal scholar from the University of California, told the Post.
The Post also noted how the vast majority of New Zealanders support more gun control, and that the country lacks constitutional protections for the right to bear arms — unlike the U.S.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/20/new-zealand-gun-buy-back-fails/
perhaps you should go vegetarian.
Enjoy eating you weener beater
:/
peddle boi.
You're type of philosophy is a prime reason we teach kids defensive weapon handling and how to shoot straight, and to not get into vans with drivers that look like you.