Gun Control is Completely Useless.

spilledthebeer

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And it's being pushed by white people.




IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is a substantial difference between ordinary white people.........................


and the damned LIE-berals with their climate LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between ordinary Cdns



and the third world dictators who are HAVING FUN laying



guilt trips on Donkeys like Our idiot Boy Justin in exchange



for those FAKE CARBON CREDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is another article illustrating LIE-beral greed and stupidity and why electricity costs so much. And it also exposes the LIE-beral GRAVY GRABBING CARBON TAX SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With some comments of my own in brackets):

The shocking incompetence of Liberal energy policy

First posted: Saturday, July 01, 2017 07:17 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, July 01, 2017 07:59 PM EDT

As Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne might say, given her propensity for wasting our money, “What’s another billion?”

This time, a billion dollars is the amount the Ontario Society of Professional Engineers (OSPE) says the Wynne government wasted last year alone dumping clean energy down the drain.

OSPE past president Paul Acchione explained the culprit is “curtailment ... an industry term that means the power was not needed in Ontario, and could not be exported, so it was dumped.

“It’s when we tell our dams to let the water spill over top, our nuclear generators to release their steam, and our wind turbines not to turn, even when it’s windy,” Acchione said.

“These numbers show that Ontario’s cleanest source of power is literally going down the drain because we’re producing too much ... it’s an unnecessary waste of beautiful, clean energy, and it’s driving up the cost of electricity.”

(Much of this mess is driven by the need to make room on the power grid for the mouldy green energy so beloved of LIE-berals! LIE-berals have agreed to buy any and all green energy produced by friends of the LIE-beral Party- at rates hundreds of percent above the cost of other forms of generation- and LIE-berals do not care that we have NO WAY to shut off the production of mouldy green even when we have way more power than we need! LIE-beral friends ARE ENTITLED and to shut off their flow of gravy for any reason would be LIE-beral/WRONG!)

This is distinct from the money Ontario loses when it sells electricity to Quebec and the U.S. at a loss because we have a huge energy surplus.

“Taken together,” Acchione said, “total exports represent nearly enough electricity to power every home in Ontario for an entire year.”

The situation is so bad — according to a 2015 report by Auditor General Bonnie Lysyk, Ontario pays twice the U.S. average for wind power and 3.5 times for solar power — that the basic theory of successful investing, buy low, sell high, has been turned on its head in Ontario.

Here, our Liberal government buys high and sells low, which we all pay for through our hydro bills.

OSPE says the root problem is the politicization of energy policy.

(The most outrageous part of LIE-beral policy is that our green energy is actually producing MORE air pollution- NOT LESS! First we have the huge plume of green house gas to produce all the concrete and steel for wind towers and support towers to connect to the main power grid; plus the array of toxic chemicals needed to make the carbon fibre wind blades; then add in the fuel for natural gas fired generators that MUST be kept FULLY fired up 24/7 and ready to take over at a moments notice because the costly green energy is so unreliable! LIE-berals have turned our electrical generation system into a VAST slush fund for LIE-beral pals- WITHOUT actually doing anything to clean the air!)

“It is imperative that we depoliticize what should be technical judgments regarding energy mix, generation, distribution, pricing and future investments in Ontario,” President Jonathan Hack said.

But even when the Liberal government gets good advice from its experts, it ignores it.

(Water powered generators are the cheapest form of generators but they are also the easiest to SHUT OFF- just a flip of the switch and water spills away- with the added bonus that water generators need the smallest work force to operate since the technology is so simple. But a nuclear power station- with highly skilled staff- takes three days to go safely from idle speed to full power and another three days to go back to idle again- no fast reaction there! And thanks to the greed and incompetence of Atomic Energy scientists, our govt has hired specialists from Britain and France to run the nuclear plants- and their corporate bosses EXPECT a return on their investment in our system! So for reasons of political expediency AND LIE-beral GREED, the cheapest and cleanest form of electrical generation-water power- is being DUMPED!)

Lysyk in 2015 — completing work started by her predecessor, Jim McCarter, in 2011 — reported that Ontario paid $9.2 billion extra for 20-year contracts with wind and solar power developers because it sweetened the deals, despite the fact its own experts said its existing procurement program was successfully doing the job.

Even worse, Ontario didn’t need wind and solar power to replace coal-fired electricity, which the Liberals actually did with nuclear power and natural gas.

The ultimate absurdity is that the Liberals continue to sign new wind and solar contracts, despite the province’s massive energy surplus, caused in part by the loss of manufacturing jobs due to skyrocketing electricity prices.

If you think the Liberals don’t know what they’re doing, other than kicking the crisis down the road by subsidizing electricity prices to the tune of $24 billion, which could eventually cost Ontarians up to $93 billion, according to Ontario Financial Accountability Officer Stephen LeClair, you’re right.

(Ontari-owe LIE-berals remain dedicated to their mouldy green energy slush fund. They have read the tea leaves and know they will not likely be in power after the June 2018 election- so they have quietly signed 4 year labour contracts with the civil service Hogs that are virtually the ONLY supporters of LIE-berals and they will hope we have short memories and can be persuaded to re-elect LIE-berals in the 2022 election!)

(If LIE-berals do retain power in the 2018 election then in 2019 we can look forward to an economic blood bath as LIE-berals loot and pillage to pay off their HUGE IOU`s to civil service Hogs! And if they return to power in 2022, then we can look forward THEN to the economic blood bath that LIE-berals want to drown us in as they seek to cling to power at any price!)

(Old news reports from several years back- the ones LIE-beral friendly news media now do not want to discuss-.told us that 97 percent of ALL civil service union Hog pensions were rapidly approaching bankrupt status. LIE-berals cannot shovel cash fast enough into the greedy pockets of Hogs with the result that the cost of LIE-beral promises grows rapidly at a pace way beyond inflation with each passing day- compounded and amortized! We could not pay when the promises were originally made and we cannot pay now that the mess has been added to with compound interest! But LIE-berals WILL continue to use our electrical generation system to milk cash from us any way they can! Without that gravy to placate Hogs and without the votes the gravy buys from special interest groups such as Muslims who hate us; LIE-berals could not be elected to collect dog crap in the parks!)
 

taxslave

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you said they was going to be a federal handgun grab
that was just something you made up during the election as part of your white natty virtue signalling
There is. Is your comprehension less than zero? trudOWE thinks he is going to get the snowflake mayors to start the ball rolling. I predict lots of court challenges.
 

taxslave

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Sigh.
It is like trying to teach calculus to a cocker spaniel.
If the gun ban is "municipal", why do the feds have to legislate it?
Here's a hint; The amendment of the Criminal Code is entirely a federal responsibility, therefore any law that allows municipalities to create new crimes (like possession of a handgun inside Toronto) is a FEDERAL responsibility.
Cocker spanials are way smarter than the resident troll.
 

Hoid

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Sigh.


It is like trying to teach calculus to a cocker spaniel.


If the gun ban is "municipal", why do the feds have to legislate it?


Here's a hint; The amendment of the Criminal Code is entirely a federal responsibility, therefore any law that allows municipalities to create new crimes (like possession of a handgun inside Toronto) is a FEDERAL responsibility.
it's a municipal ban

it applies to whatever city institutes it

if it was a federal ban it would apply to the whole country
 

JLM

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There is. Is your comprehension less than zero? trudOWE thinks he is going to get the snowflake mayors to start the ball rolling. I predict lots of court challenges.


I guess there are still those among who can't seem to get it through their thick heads, that it's the CRIMINAL who needs banning and leave the guns alone. They DON'T shoot anyone by themselves! I guess retards just can't be educated! :)
 

DaSleeper

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I guess there are still those among who can't seem to get it through their thick heads, that it's the CRIMINAL who needs banning and leave the guns alone. They DON'T shoot anyone by themselves! I guess retards just can't be educated! :)
He just shooting of his mouth without a clue..
Any law concerning firearms has to have the approval of the federal or provincial registrar of firearms!
 

petros

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Paramountcy Doctrine

The key to success for any ballroom dancing partnership is to understand and respect your role in the partnership, but, most importantly, you must avoid stepping on each other's toes. Failing to follow this sage and seemingly simple advice ultimately results in a loss of balance and a potential breakdown of the partnership. Perhaps the drafters of the Constitution Act, 1867 (the "Constitution") had this sound and reasonable advice in mind when drafting Part VI of the Constitution, being the distribution of legislative powers.

Section 91 of the Constitution establishes the legislative authority of the Parliament of Canada to make laws for the peace, order and good government of Canada ("POGG") in relation to all matters not assigned exclusively to the legislatures of the provinces. Section 91 then sets out the specific powers assigned to the federal government with the caution that it is being provided for greater certainty but "not so as to restrict the generality" of the federal government's powers.

Section 92 of the Constitution states that in each province the legislature may exclusively make laws in relation to those matters coming within the class of subjects enumerated. Section 92.8 allows provincial legislatures to pass laws to establish municipal institutions within its province. As municipal governments are a product of provincial statutes they are limited to those powers granted to them through legislation enacted by the province and, therefore, remain creatures of provincial legislation.


Municipalities are not empowered with residuary general powers, which would allow them to exercise dormant provincial or federal powers.3 To act, a municipality must be able to establish a grant of authority within an enabling provincial statute. The Supreme Court of Canada in Nanaimo (City) v. Rascal Trucking Ltd., ruled that a municipality's grant of power must be construed reasonably and generously, however, it cannot receive a power unless it already exists.

http://www.mondaq.com/canada/x/5767...vinces+Or+Municipalities+Step+On+Federal+Toes
 
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taxslave

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it's a municipal ban
it applies to whatever city institutes it
if it was a federal ban it would apply to the whole country
Municipalities have neither the authority to make such a ban nor the ability to enforce it.Or even the ability to know (legally)who might have a handgun within their boundaries.
 

Hoid

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Municipalities have neither the authority to make such a ban nor the ability to enforce it.Or even the ability to know (legally)who might have a handgun within their boundaries.
yes there are many problems with handguns
 

DaSleeper

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How many criminals do you rekon have their firearms registered?
Is that a trick question
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spilledthebeer

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There is. Is your comprehension less than zero? trudOWE thinks he is going to get the snowflake mayors to start the ball rolling. I predict lots of court challenges.




Our idiot Boy Justin is simply talking.......................


with no point to make and no solution to offer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals LOVE getting people engaged in discussion........................


because while the debate goes on...................


NOTHING GETS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As I have said - the DO NOTHING BRIGADE is firmly in charge in Ottawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I predict that after the LIE-beral minority is put out of its misery by a non confidence vote................................


THAT A RECORD NUMBER of unfinished and proposed laws - still under debate...................................


WILL DIE along with the current parliament and LIE-beral minority !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are merely running out the clock.......................................


and praying for a MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Colpy

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A 1997 Department of Justice-funded study of the 1994 federal “assault weapons” ban determined that “At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders.” A 2004 follow-up Department of Justice-funded study came to a similar conclusion. The study determined that “AWs [assault weapons] and LCMs [large capacity magazines] were used in only a minority of gun crimes prior to the 1994 federal ban,” “relatively few attacks involve more than 10 shots fired,” and “the ban’s effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement.”


https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/24/...budget-in-anticipation-of-jailing-gun-owners/


Note the study was done during the Clinton administration.


Long gun bans and seizures are very expensive, and have essentially no effect.
 

JLM

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I'm guessing most of the ones issued to government employees are registered. Biggest criminal organization in the country.


Don't get too carried away, there's a few bad apples but most of them are pretty good. I worked among them for 35 years. They are mainly just people trying to put three squares on the table!
 

taxslave

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Don't get too carried away, there's a few bad apples but most of them are pretty good. I worked among them for 35 years. They are mainly just people trying to put three squares on the table!
You didn't get to pack a gun either. Or steal from people's paycheques.