Gun Control is Completely Useless.

JLM

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Bull. I know TEN TIMES more'n Colpy does about guns.

OK, make it FIVE times.

Umm. . . half, maybe?

Well, probably 50 times more than I do. I had a couple of .22s as a kid and a .303 and a .32 Winchester Special later on and could point, aim and fire them and sometimes even hit a target. I suppose back in my day I murdered a couple of dozen grouse.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Got a new gun. Went back to the future. Smith & Wesson M&P R8, .357 magnum revolver. Eight in the cylinder, machined to accept moon clips, reloads almost as fast as an automatic.

All the advantages of a revolver without sacrificing much re-load time. Life is good.


 

JLM

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He's not Flossy....he's waldo!
Put a search for waldo.... you'll see that he writes the same expecting the forum to take his word for everything with no back-up proof!

Are you saying Hoid is a reincarnation of Waldo? I wouldn't have thunk it. I've pretty well forgotten what Waldo was actually like except being a f**king nuisance, but not quite as bad as Putz. :lol:
 

Murphy

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He's not Flossy....he's waldo!
Put a search for waldo.... you'll see that he writes the same expecting the forum to take his word for everything with no back-up proof!

He's actually Flossy's twin brother. You cannot tell them apart. I have been after him to provide proofs when he makes silly, wild ass claims. He cannot. 14 year old boys have problems with that. They think they know everything.

This is dedicated to him. :lol:

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DaSleeper

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Got a new gun. Went back to the future. Smith & Wesson M&P R8, .357 magnum revolver. Eight in the cylinder, machined to accept moon clips, reloads almost as fast as an automatic.

All the advantages of a revolver without sacrificing much re-load time. Life is good.


The usual is ten rounds at a target...non?
 

JLM

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Got a new gun. Went back to the future. Smith & Wesson M&P R8, .357 magnum revolver. Eight in the cylinder, machined to accept moon clips, reloads almost as fast as an automatic.

All the advantages of a revolver without sacrificing much re-load time. Life is good.



Better watch it, Bones, lest you be deemed a threat to every classroom in the country! :lol:
 

DaSleeper

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He's actually Flossy's twin brother. You cannot tell them apart. I have been after him to provide proofs when he makes silly, wild ass claims. He cannot. 14 year old boys have problems with that. They think they know everything.

This is dedicated to him. :lol:

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Look up Waldo ....same bullshit!
 

Murphy

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Got a new gun. Went back to the future. Smith & Wesson M&P R8, .357 magnum revolver. Eight in the cylinder, machined to accept moon clips, reloads almost as fast as an automatic.

All the advantages of a revolver without sacrificing much re-load time. Life is good.



Nice. I have been thinking about a 44 Special. I never bothered with getting one up until now because the only maker was Charter Arms. I wanted more weight. Ruger now chambers them.

Look up Waldo ....same bullshit!

No worries. I know.
 

Colpy

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He's actually Flossy's twin brother. You cannot tell them apart. I have been after him to provide proofs when he makes silly, wild ass claims. He cannot. 14 year old boys have problems with that. They think they know everything.

This is dedicated to him. :lol:

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My all-time favourite band, and side one my all time favourite piece of music.

Really don't mind if you sit this one out

My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout.

Fits, doesn't it?
 

Colpy

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Here you go.

Here's the latest windmill for you fanatic nutbars to tilt at.

New federal gun control bill expected this week - Politics - CBC News

This might even be enough to lure the NRA interfere with our politics and governance, as well.

The NRA is forbidden by their constitution to spend money outside the country.

We don't appreciate being harassed for no reason, we don't appreciate the PM rising in the House and telling bald-faced lies about ATT for no reason other than to further that harassment, and we especially do not appreciate the gov't turning the place into a police state by giving the RCMP the de facto power to make up law as it goes along.

That requires the mindset of an authoritarian "progressive".

If that makes me a "fanatic nutbar", then I'm proud to be a fanatic nutbar.

I'm not kidding.

Six Cases of RCMP Discretion Gone Wild


Robert Paulson was the RCMP Commissioner responsible for every single one of these acts of RCMP “discretion.”


Ruger 10/22 Magazine Ban


The Ruger 10/22, created in 1964, is the most popular .22 calibre rifle in Canada. This durable rifle sparked an entire companion industry of parts, including 25, 50 and 100 round magazines. By law, there is no magazine capacity limit on .22 calibre rifles.


Over one million 10/22 magazines were estimated to have been imported into Canada over the past five decades.


On July 21, 2016, the RCMP’s absurd misinterpretation of Part 4, Section 3(1)(b) (definitions of prohibited devices) banned all Ruger 10/22 magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds of ammunition.


3 (1) Any cartridge magazine… (b) that is capable of containing more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada.


The RCMP declared Ruger 10/22 magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds were not designed for the Ruger 10/22 rifle back in 1964 but were designed for the little-known Ruger Charger handgun first manufactured for sale in 2007.


The Ruger Charger was, in fact, designed to fit the Ruger 10/22 magazine. It defies logic to claim the magazine was designed for a gun which did not exist for another 43 years. Yet this is the RCMP’s public position - Ruger 10/22 magazines were designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun created 43 years later by invoking the clause “for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada.”


Naturally, the RCMP refuses to say how many Ruger Charger handguns exist, as that would shine the light of truth on their “commonly available in Canada” lie.


Owners of Ruger 10/22 magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition are now subject to 10 years in prison – the penalty for possession of a Prohibited Device.


Armi Jager AP80 Ban


In 2012, the RCMP reclassified the Armi Jager AP80 from Non-Restricted to Prohibited with the ridiculous claim the .22 calibre rifle is a “variant of the design of the firearm commonly known as the AK-47 rifle” as mandated by Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 13, section 64.


The AP80 is not a variant of the AK47. Not a single part of the AP80 is interchangeable with the AK-47. The AP80 is a totally different semi-automatic .22 rifle. It cannot fire fully-automatic. The AP80 fires the .22LR cartridge, not the larger .30 calibre 7.62x39 cartridge.


Noted journalist, Matt Gurney, perfectly describes the RCMP’s intentional application of the will of Parliament.


“The decision to ban the AP-80, however, has no logic behind it at all. The RCMP is banning the AP-80 because it looks scary.”


Even though individuals bought the AP80 legally, with the stroke of an RCMP bureaucrat’s pen, owners of this .22 rifle are now criminals subject to 10 years in prison – the penalty for possession of a Prohibited firearm.


Prohibited Mossberg Blaze-47 vs Non-Restricted Mossberg Blaze


In 2015, the RCMP classified the Mossberg Blaze-47 as a Prohibited rifle by perverting the same classification rationale used to ban the Armi Jager AP80 three years earlier.


Like the AP80, the Blaze-47 fires a .22 calibre rimfire cartridge in semi-automatic only and no parts are interchangeable with the AK-47.


The Non-Restricted Mossberg Blaze and the Prohibited Blaze-47 firearms are absolutely identical. The ONLY difference between these two rifles is the stock. One is a simple, black polymer stock, the other is cosmetically designed to look like the AK-47.


With the stroke of an RCMP bureaucrat’s pen, any owners of the Blaze-47 rifle are now criminals subject to 10 years in prison – the penalty for possession of a Prohibited firearm – if they do not turn their firearms over to the RCMP for destruction.


However, it is perfectly legal to buy a Mossberg Blaze, add a Blaze 47 stock as an unregulated plastic Blaze 47 stock to it and make your own Blaze 47 rifle. No sweat, you just can't buy it assembled.


.50 Beowulf Magazine Ban


On November 17, 2015, the RCMP reclassified the .50 Beowulf magazine as a Prohibited Device because it can function using two different calibres of ammunition in the AR-15 platform. The following is a quote from an unidentified manager at the Canadian Firearms Program.


The 50 Beowulf cartridge is centrefire and the AR platform rifles which use that calibre are semiautomatic. Thus, cartridge magazines for 50 Beowulf calibre firearms are prohibited if more than five 50 Beowulf cartridges can be contained in the magazine (subparagraph ii, as above).


Magazines for the AR platform which contain four or five 50 Beowulf calibre cartridges present a more complicated situation. Such magazines will generally contain 11 and 14 cartridges respectively of 5.56x45 mm NATO (or 223 Remington) calibre. Since the 50 Beowulf calibre magazines are adapted from the original 5.56x45 mm NATO design and the ability of the magazine to perform as originally designed has not been compromised by the adaptation, such magazines are prohibited if they contain more than five 5.56x45 mm NATO cartridges. The magazines are in effect dual calibre magazines and will be prohibited if they exceed five shots capacity of either calibre.


If you’re confused, you are not alone. Unfortunately, it doesn’t have to make sense. It’s government policy. By the way, in Canadian law, there is no such thing as a dual-purpose magazine.


CZ-858 Spartan Prohibited but CZ-858 is Non-Restricted


In one of their stupidest decisions, the reclassified the CZ-858 Spartan from Non-Restricted to Prohibited, not because of its functionality, but because of cosmetic engravings added onto the receiver.


The CZ858 Tactical-2P rifle is legal and classified Non-Restricted but the “CZ858 Tactical-2P Spartan Limited Edition Proofed 2007 Or Later” is classified Prohibited because it is not specifically named as an exempted item in the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited, Restricted or Non-Restricted, SOR/98-462.


The RCMP also claims the “CZ858 Tactical-2P firearm proofed 2007 can be converted to a fully automatic firearm in a relatively short period of time with relative ease.” Right...no proof...just take our word on it...


Swiss Arms Rifles


In February 2014 the RCMP made the “discretionary call” to ban the Swiss Arms family of semi-automatic rifles, turning thousands more law-abiding citizens into criminals. The Conservative government reversed the ban but not before drawing fire for not reigning in the RCMP and its overzealous bureaucrats
 
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