Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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He was not well liked for sure, but that doesn't mean he was wrong. BTW, I prefer the 1911.
Good to see you are back, Bob. We can use an infusion of sanity here.
I just came back again to give up some sanity
there is a SCC ruling that a new law does not immediately extinguish a traditional right. This ruling has not been applied or reviewed with respect to the right to bear arms.
That's what Bruce Montague was trying to achieve, a constitutional challenge in the Supreme Court, but first he had to be charged with the crime of being in possession of firearms without a license. The SCC did not grant leave to appeal his conviction in the lower courts, I would assume because if they upheld his conviction it would be obvious how unprincipled the SCC really is, or if they found the law unconstitutional, which I believe it is, it would go against their personal beliefs.
Mr. Montague showed us videos of his arrest, the grounds for which and the methods of police were completely unwarranted and his case should have ended right there, but he continued on his quest. The Ontario Government made an example of him, and to the rest of us who would dare challenge the divine right of government and our overlords. At least they didn't succeed in taking his home, but they took everything else.
I was just trying to consolidate posts. :roll:
No worries, I was just trying to point out that when you are spamming a canadian politics thread with something that should be in an american politics thread, you ought to provide some sort of assertion on why you feel there is relevance.
I am not saying you have to - who am I to set the rules. I'm just making what I feel is a reasonable assertion about how a canadian politics thread ought to be run.
Ahhh, so typically "progressive". Ignorance and arrogance in equal parts.............
Bystanders disarm man who pulled out shotgun on Oshawa street
A civilian disarmed a man who was threatening people with a sawed-off shotgun Tuesday night in Oshawa.
One man has been charged in the incident, which occurred in the area of Drew Street and Etna Avenue at about 9:30 p.m. Sept. 13.
Durham police said a suspect, who was walking along Drew Street with another man, shouted at people to stop staring at him before pulling the gun on a bystander.
That person grabbed hold of the gun and, with the assistance of four other witnesses, disarmed the suspect and held him until officers arrived, police said.
Ishmail Baker, 20, of Wilson Road North in Oshawa faces a dozen charges including pointing a firearm, uttering threats, and possession of a prohibited weapon.
Police are still trying to identify the second male, who left the scene before the physical confrontation.
Bystanders disarm man who pulled sawed-off shotgun on Oshawa street
A civilian disarmed a man who was threatening people with a sawed-off shotgun Tuesday night in Oshawa.
One man has been charged in the incident, which occurred in the area of Drew Street and Etna Avenue at about 9:30 p.m. Sept. 13.
Durham police said a suspect, who was walking along Drew Street with another man, shouted at people to stop staring at him before pulling the gun on a bystander.
That person grabbed hold of the gun and, with the assistance of four other witnesses, disarmed the suspect and held him until officers arrived, police said.
Ishmail Baker, 20, of Wilson Road North in Oshawa faces a dozen charges including pointing a firearm, uttering threats, and possession of a prohibited weapon.
Police are still trying to identify the second male, who left the scene before the physical confrontation.
Bystanders disarm man who pulled sawed-off shotgun on Oshawa street
The nice thing about The town where everyone's household is required to own a gun , is apparently the added benefit that just the knowledge that everyone is armed, keeps things down to a dull roar...
the "YOU better think twice" defence
peaceful and effective... and elegant
the "YOU better think twice" defence
peaceful and effective... and elegant
It says we are living in a less violent world contray to what right wing zealots like Steve Harper told us. But..
Source: Global Burden of Disease Study. Access the data visualization here: GBD Compare | IHME Viz Hub In a 2013 article for The Atlantic online that compared gun deaths in U.S. cities to some of the deadliest places in the world, the authors created a map, below, that shows Atlanta has the same gun murder rate as South Africa, Detroit as El Salvador, Phoenix equal to Mexico’s gun homicide rate:
The Atlantic
Another screen grab, below, compares gun homicide rates in the U.S. with countries that frequently make headlines for conflict-related violence (Afghanistan, Iraq, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Pakistan).
The U.S. has higher rates of homicides from guns than Pakistan. At 4.5 deaths per 100,000 people, the U.S. rates aren’t much lower than gun homicide rates in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (5.2 deaths per 100,000 people). Annually, the U.S. has about two fewer gun homicide deaths per 100,000 people than Iraq, which has 6.5 deaths per 100,000.
Firearm homicide rates in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the United States and Pakistan, 2010
Compared to certain countries known for their high crime rates, such as Jamaica, Russia, South Africa and Kenya, the U.S. had the second-highest rate of gun homicide deaths after Jamaica (view data online).Although the U.S. stands out for its high rates of homicide firearm deaths, its rates look small compared to certain Latin American countries. The following screen grab indicates that El Salvador, Colombia and Honduras had the highest rates of firearm homicides in the world in 2010.
Firearm homicide rates in Latin America and the United States, 2010
Another issue that gets less attention is how many people die from firearms accidentally. Again, the U.S. has much higher rates of unintentional death from firearms compared to other countries.
Unintentional firearm death rates in the U.S. and peer countries, 2013
Source: Global Burden of Disease Study. Access the data visualization here: GBD Compare | IHME Viz HubMuch More
Kind of says it all.
for clarity sake, can you please explain to us what Steven Harper told you?
Although, Canada has always enjoyed a low rate of accidental deaths, the past 35 years worth of laws haven't provided any evidence that our gun laws are capable of driving a decrease in accidental deaths. Surely you aren't proposing that the USA should adopt an unproven Canadian model of gun control and safety...
Harpo, tough on crime, even though crime is down. lol.
I am not proposing anything. You are not very perceptive. You are just cherry picking and making stuff up. Par for the course with gunners and internet trolls.
