Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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I hate to admit it, but in this one instance you are absolutely correct.
It was late at night, I was tired, and I screwed up.
I added a column of figures that included Total Murders, then Total Gun Murders, and then Gun Murders by type of gun, essentially counting each gun murder Three times.......
Sorry about that, totally my fault.
I will now go hang my head in shame, please disregard the part of the post comparing knife murders.......
Specifically, as Waldo pointed out< this part of post 4901 is COMPLETE GARBAGE due to my inattention at the moment:
OOPS
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What about gun deaths in Quebec? Are they way way down since the implementation of stricter laws over the past 30 years?
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Trolls love to claim that the only time they have stepped out of line is when they are reacting to someone else's posts.
It's part of the I'm a victim, everyone is picking on me, routine.
sorry lil' lapdog buddy... you're still on (selective) ignore! When I just know you're posting your typical crapola and nothingless, I'll select the 'view post' option on a particular post of yours. But see... your aim has been realized! Your purposeful intent to disrupt has been reached... your perpetual reach for confrontation is a go! Well done, lapper... well done! :mrgreen:
taxi, what's pathetic is your lame-azzed drive-by's... they've totally gone farther downhill than even I could have imagined! :mrgreen:
guys, guys..... do any of youse have anything subject matter related to post?
Just keping the responses in line with the quality of your fishing trip.
In answer to Colpy about knowing the difference between homicide and all other gun related deaths and violence.
Come on, why assume you think everyone is stupid?? They are not and they see through your film flam......guns are not just used for homicide. You very casually dismiss the accidental deaths, suicides, pistol whippings, spousal abuse, robberies, etc. etc. as nothing. Ridiculous. Try getting a grip on reality and living in a world that is not made up of hunters, and cave men/women. The world has passed you and your ilk by.
I understand what gun control can accomplish but all you can see is your toys being taken away because of a few easy to follow rules becoming law in a country that is not even your own. I also understand that one way or another, most Americans will welcome and follow stricter gun laws. Peace in one's country means more to most people than it apparently does to you.
Come on, why assume you think everyone is stupid?? They are not and they see through your film flam......guns are not just used for homicide. You very casually dismiss the accidental deaths, suicides, pistol whippings, spousal abuse, robberies, etc. etc. as nothing. Ridiculous. Try getting a grip on reality and living in a world that is not made up of hunters, and cave men/women. The world has passed you and your ilk by.
I understand what gun control can accomplish but all you can see is your toys being taken away because of a few easy to follow rules becoming law in a country that is not even your own. I also understand that one way or another, most Americans will welcome and follow stricter gun laws. Peace in one's country means more to most people than it apparently does to you.
Actually the deaths in Canada are way down over the past 50 years. As for Quebec, very difficult to say as the collection method was not up to Federal standards. However, I found that Quebec's stats rose 7% in the last year. None of these are for 100,000 people. These are 7% of last year's total LOL. i.e. if last year's total was 115, the rate went up to to 120 deaths, period. I do believe the rate was 7% for Canada, not just Quebec. Ontario's rate was still higher than Quebec's.
Stupid answer. I consider the right to life without being killed a better right than the right to shoot a gun willy nilly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61XgL4vAjI#t=43
Liberty is a bitch. In order for you to have it, others around you must have it, too.
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Liberty is a bitch. In order for you to have it, others around you must have it, too.
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Exactly right and what do your consider more important, your right to fire a gun or the right to feel free to live your life!!
If you posted some links to prove your statements and not just expect you to take you at you word you might have some credibility....at least Colpy has proof behind his statement
James me boy Take the s out of those youtube videos you're trying to post
James me boy Take the s out of those youtube videos you're trying to post
to me it sounds like you are afraid to have liberty unless you can take away the liberty of others.
liberty is a bitch, it scares people like you.
I've lost the ability to edit that post.I will go back to the smartphone it was submitted from, but it has a dead battery.
I can't fix that post anymore so I've put in a request for someone to either fix it or - heaven forbid - delete it.
I have several links in there that might be crashing the message.
All liberties are equal. There are no 'evil' liberties and there are no 'good' liberties. If you truly want liberty, you have to be prepared to support all liberties, even the ones that scare the poop out of you.
When you start to talk about one liberty being more important than another, you are no longer talking about liberties, you are actually talking about the destruction of liberties. I don't expect you to fully understand that there is a big difference between 'you don't have the right to shoot that gun because I have the right to life' and 'You don't have the right to shoot that gun at me because I have the right to life"
Do you honestly believe that Canada"s gun control laws, are a danger to your liberty? Why do we have traffic laws?? Are you not giving up your freedom of movement by having to give pedestrians the right to cross the street without dying under the wheels of your car?
What you fail to acknowledge is that there are more important rights, that supersede the right to own a gun. . Claiming a right must be moderated if it encroaches on another's right to life or the liberty to go unafraid through life. Anything that can be done to protect the primary right to life of another member of society, comes before the right to own an object.
Canada's liberty does not come from guns or warfare. We negotiate, and try to live by the rule of law. For this Canadian it is a much more civilized way to solve problems. It was the way Britain was born as well, you know that country some claim the right to arm oneself comes. If they are still a working democracy after birthing so many other ones, I suspect that route is the wiser way to go.
So.... NO all liberties are NOT equal. The quality of life is quite important and living in fear of your neighbor who drinks and owns a gun which he uses when drunk is not particularly pleasant. I know!!
What you fail to acknowledge is that there are more important rights, that supersede the right to own a gun. . Claiming a right must be moderated if it encroaches on another's right to life or the liberty to go unafraid through life. Anything that can be done to protect the primary right to life of another member of society, comes before the right to own an object.
Canada's liberty does not come from guns or warfare. We negotiate, and try to live by the rule of law. For this Canadian it is a much more civilized way to solve problems. It was the way Britain was born as well, you know that country some claim the right to arm oneself comes. If they are still a working democracy after birthing so many other ones, I suspect that route is the wiser way to go.
So.... NO all liberties are NOT equal. The quality of life is quite important and living in fear of your neighbor who drinks and owns a gun which he uses when drunk is not particularly pleasant. I know!!
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I fixed it. It looked to me like duplicates of one YouTube video so I removed the extra ones. If they were different you'll have to post them again.
Thanks......It wasn't so hard was it? Although it's doubtful that it proves anything you claim.
I resent giving links most people in a discussion forum should be capable of finding on their own. The one I gave you is based on gov't stats but many of the links given in this threads are questionable and even worse, use all kinds of different sources cobbled together a bit from here and a bit from there, usually choosing which ones suit their purposes with no regard to making sense.
You know like, comparing a nut to an orange or swimming pool deaths to gun deaths.
You tell me again....How someone dead by drowning or from a knife or overdose of pills etc. is less dead than by gunshot!!!