Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[EagleSmack]

Not only must they report gunshot wounds, they are in violation of the law if they do not report gun shot wounds.

Any comment Bluebyrd or would you like to move on to your next made up law?

Look it up!! The real facts bear no resemblance to your beliefs.

I just did and you're full of baloney.

Hospitals are required by law to report gunshot wounds and are in violation if they don't. Plain and simple. You made it up and you are wrong.

 

[CDNBear]

Not only must they report gunshot wounds, they are in violation of the law if they do not report gun shot wounds.

Not only do hospitals risk sanctions and fines, doctors risk losing their license.

Any comment Bluebyrd or would you like to move on to your next made up law?

Given this...

Look it up!! The real facts bear no resemblance to your beliefs.

ES, you question must be rhetorical.

 

[EagleSmack]

Have a nice day Bluebyrd!

Mandatory Reporting

Mandatory reporting statutes require individuals to report certain injuries or cases of abuse or neglect to law enforcement, social services, and/or a regulatory agency. The most common mandatory reporting laws address child abuse, sexual assault, domestic violence, elder abuse, gunshot wounds, and abuse of vulnerable adults (e.g., persons 18 years or older that are unable to report abuse and/or protect themselves from further harm).
The individuals who are mandated to report elder abuse vary by jurisdiction, as do the particular kinds of injuries or neglect that must be reported and about whom reports must be made.


Still going to stick to your BS?​

 

[bluebyrd35]

Not only must they report gunshot wounds, they are in violation of the law if they do not report gun shot wounds.

Any comment Bluebyrd or would you like to move on to your next made up law?

Sure they report gunshot wounds but to whom?? Certainly not to a central information center. Having those stats sitting in all the state and town and federal offices, gives very little idea of what is actually happening. With the cutbacks going on in all government departments, how much priority is there to gather those stats into a single unit? Oh, and who will pay for this??

Please start using your share of what intelligence was granted at birth. Use it or lose it , or is it already too late?

 

[gerryh]

Homeland Security and HIM. Appendix A: Mandatory Reporting--Balancing Patients' Privacy Rights with Public Health Interests


since our resident american seems to have a problem supplying links to back up what his tiny little mind thinks.

 

[CDNBear]

Please start using your share of what intelligence was granted at birth. Use it or lose it , or is it already too late?

Coming from the person that just shuffled the goalposts after being made of a fool of, that's rich.

But don't let that stop you from continuing to embarrass yourself.

Homeland Security and HIM. Appendix A: Mandatory Reporting--Balancing Patients' Privacy Rights with Public Health Interests


since our resident american seems to have a problem supplying links to back up what his tiny little mind thinks.

Not really necessary, only an idiot isn't aware of this legislation. And as we can see, idiots really aren't interested in facts.

 

[gerryh]

Sure they report gunshot wounds but to whom?? Certainly not to a central information center. Having those stats sitting in all the state and town and federal offices, gives very little idea of what is actually happening. With the cutbacks going on in all government departments, how much priority is there to gather those stats into a single unit? Oh, and who will pay for this??

Please start using your share of what intelligence was granted at birth. Use it or lose it , or is it already too late?

read the link I supplied. The reporting is centralized and required by law. You are wrong, now admit it and move forward.

 

[bluebyrd35]

Not only do hospitals risk sanctions and fines, doctors risk losing their license.

Given this...



ES, you question must be rhetorical.[/QUOTE)

Read further, I have no intention of repeating the obvious. Oh and for Pete's sake, trying looking at All the Facts from other than the possible loss of favourite toys and the chest thumping of a caveman regarding certain weapons.

 

[CDNBear]

Read further, I have no intention of repeating the obvious.

Oh it's clearly obvious you just make it up as you go, no need to repeat that, lol.

Oh and for Pete's sake, trying looking at All the Facts from other than the possible loss of favourite toys and the chest thumping of a caveman regarding certain weapons.

LOL, look, we get it, I embarrassed you by proving you wrong, there's no need to further embarrass yourself, lol.

 

[bluebyrd35]

Homeland Security and HIM. Appendix A: Mandatory Reporting--Balancing Patients' Privacy Rights with Public Health Interests


since our resident american seems to have a problem supplying links to back up what his tiny little mind thinks.

Post the most recents stats collected on deaths & mutilations by guns published by Homeland Security. Perhaps you can find them!!

 

[CDNBear]

Post the most recents stats collected on deaths & mutilations by guns published by Homeland Security. Perhaps you can find them!!

Stop deflecting and embarrassing yourself. Your posts just look more and more idiotic.

 

[petros]

Post the most recents stats collected on deaths & mutilations by guns published by Homeland Security. Perhaps you can find them!!

far less than second hand smoke and I don't see any calls for outright tobacco bans.

"I was cleaning my cigarette when it suddenly went off."

 

[gerryh]

Post the most recents stats collected on deaths & mutilations by guns published by Homeland Security. Perhaps you can find them!!

no, I supplied a link to disprove your rant that mandatory reporting was not necessary. That's as far as I'm willing to take this.


I also believe in gun control and don't believe it's necessary to own a gun except for hunting. I am unwilling to do your homework for you to help you support your side, especially when it is so painfully obvious that you don't do your own homework before posting.

 

[DaSleeper]

Look it up!! The real facts bear no resemblance to your beliefs.

Your bathroom mirror should have this

• Warning: Objects in mirror are dumber than they appear.

 

[Colpy]

how is that possible? I've seen stats from FBI, medical associations, universities, etc. While some stats will come from suspect sources like perhaps a university with external funding, how can you make such a blanket statement like that?

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Very simply........Where exactly do you think the FBI for example, would get it's stats or for that matter how accurate can those collected by universities, or medical associations possibly be without the co-operation of hospitals, doctors and morgues, all of which are not compelled to send those stats anywhere.

In fact patient confidentiality regarding the release of such information is unlawful. There is no funding available for such data except from those who have a stake in the results and just who do you suppose they are?? Further, I hardly think those and other organizations, such as universities, medical associations etc. can afford to collect such stats, especially since such stats are NO longer collected by the medical communitty.


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Excuse me??

As shooting people is generally considered to be suspicious, it is investigated by local authorities, and reported to the FBI stats people.

FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Did a little reading up on young Jimmy, seems he's always in sh*t.-

Yup, a real piece of work, the Melvins have been feuding with the Marriott gang for a number of years but the violence only spread to our street once, (dogs don't normally crap where they sleep). Most of that was kept to the Spryfield area of Halifax.

Not at all.

Here, let me clarify for those who don't understand nuance, and think the only possible positions on guns are shrieking gun-banners or ay-yup rednecks.

I oppose all gun control of any sort. I think that discharged felons and any mentally ill people who have not been determined non compos mentis by a court of competent jurisdiction should be able to buy, keep, and carry any weapon they like. Automatic rifles, machine guns, grenades, rocket launchers, field pieces, anything.

I just like to play with the ideas.

I don't really have a lot of time to get on here, and to peruse all posts and didn't know if you were being honest or sarcastic. But GSW's vary greatly depending on what delivered them. Luckily, gangbangers prefer the 9mm, which is a popgun compared to a .45, or the nastier .357 and .44Mag hip cannons.

But as it stands, felons in the US as well as those here with convictions for violent offences or for drug trafficing are not generally allowed to own firearms. I wouldn't oppose a sane level of gun control, if it worked, but it doesn't. Criminals don't obey the law and gun control only targets those who do.

 

[Sal]

So is there an accurate representation of how people died via guns in this country or in the States. How can we know the best course of action to take if we don't know "truthfully" how everyone who has been shot for the last 10 years died?

Doesn't there have to be some kind of approach with no emotion or agenda attached to it?

 

[EagleSmack]

Homeland Security and HIM. Appendix A: Mandatory Reporting--Balancing Patients' Privacy Rights with Public Health Interests


since our resident american seems to have a problem supplying links to back up what his tiny little mind thinks.

Is Gerry still sore about having his dumb azz handed to him yesterday? Why should I run to the net to provide links for stupid people like you?

Post the most recents stats collected on deaths & mutilations by guns published by Homeland Security. Perhaps you can find them!!

See what I was intent on avoiding Gerry? See how useless it is?

Now go be a moron eslewhere sucker.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

So is there an accurate representation of how people died via guns in this country or in the States. How can we know the best course of action to take if we don't know "truthfully" how everyone who has been shot for the last 10 years died?

Does it matter? Its not by what method they died, the big reason is the why. The emotions focus more on the tool and less on the hand that weilded it.

Doesn't there have to be some kind of approach with no emotion or agenda attached to it?

That's not how special interest groups work, and they are the ones who drive the agenda, on both sides.

 

[Sal]

Does it matter? Its not by what method they died, the big reason is the why. The emotions focus more on the tool and less on the hand that weilded it.

I think it might. In the heat of the moment it is easy to pull a trigger. If they had to exert a bit more energy perhaps more purposeful deaths could be avoided. I think it is wrong to assume that if one does not have access to a gun they will just find another way. That does not fit human beings from a psychological perspective. people go off but then they calm down...maybe just long enough for sanity to return. If people would all just kill the same without guns then we still don't need them.

That's not how special interest groups work, and they are the ones who drive the agenda, on both sides.

Yes but there must be some kind of stats somewhere that have "more" impartiality than others no?