Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Well if you're best response is my acceptance of quid quo pro provisions in other matters is merely the result of personal defect, perhaps you'd be more interested in explaining why in 15 years none of the provinces have raised a reference question to their courts over the inspection sections of the Firearms Act.
Huh....I thought you were a dope smoker???? That is, believe it or not, against the law........but I guess some forms of civil disobedience are superior to others, aye???
Depending on whether or not the law-breakers agree with you.
(insert rolled eyes here)
The right to be free from unreasonable search is an individual right, in this case one violated by the Federal Criminal Code.....in other words, the provinces have nothing to do with it.
What that means is that any challenge to the law will have to come from an individual that has refused entry, has then had a warrant issued against him or her, and has been charged for some offense discovered under that warrant. Considering the fact that the person charged would also have to have the resources to fight it all the way to the Supreme Court........(think hundreds of thousands of dollars)
There is a case in the works....it has been going on since 2004.......and (as the accused was a gunsmith) the authorities have seized his home under the (also illegitimate) law that allows seizure of any property gained through money earned illegally. (They seize BEFORE you are convicted, BTW) Bruce Montaque is his name......
So, tell me, how do you afford lawyers??? It takes time. Until then, the only solution is civil disobedience.
I'm a family man so my livelihood isn't mine to gamble with.
They could if they want. Any provincial government can raise Charter reference questions on Federal law in its own provincial courts. The Federal government can represent themselves if they so chose and have the right to appeal with the Supreme Court of Canada if they disagree with the decision.
They could if they want. Any provincial government can raise Charter reference questions on Federal law in its own provincial courts. The Federal government can represent themselves if they so chose and have the right to appeal with the Supreme Court of Canada if they disagree with the decision.
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30,000 years ago the tribesman met and they tried to ban pointy rocks lashed to a stick but they were attacked by another tribe who used a bow to fire pointy rocks tied to a stick with feathers to make it fly straight and with accuracy so the tribe needed a bow and pointy rocks tied to a flighted stick and all war equal in love and war. 22,000 years later they met again to try to ban pointy rocks lashed to a stick with feather flights shot from a bow when they were attack by a tribe with copper axes that remove a noggin with one swing and they all declared "we need copper axes to protect outselves from copper axes" and all were armed when along came another attacking tribe who had bronze axes that could break the copper axes with one swing and they no long had pointy rocks lashed to sticks with feathered flights but bronze points that could piece the toughest of animal skin armour. Once again they declared we need bronze to protect outselves from bronze points lashed to sticks with feathered flights and copper smashing bronze axes and bronze pointed lashed to sticks with feathered flights and all was equal in love and qwar amongst the tribes and armistice was declared and the people felt safe enough to ban bronze points lashed to sticks with feathered flights and bronze axes but along came this other tribe who had long shiny steel blades that were easier to swing and cut and broke to bronze axes and could pierce the bronze armour....
get the idea yet?
Soon pistols and rifles will be outdated by energy weapons and we'll all declare " we need those to protect ourselves from energy weapons" and so on and so and so on.
get the idea yet?
Soon pistols and rifles will be outdated by energy weapons and we'll all declare " we need those to protect ourselves from energy weapons" and so on and so and so on.
You REALLY have to love this!
From the Toronto Star, no less, Canada's most anti-gun newspaper.
If a stolen gun fell in the forest, would the gun registry hear? - thestar.com
The problem is this is not an isolated case, but completely typical..........
From the Toronto Star, no less, Canada's most anti-gun newspaper.
If a stolen gun fell in the forest, would the gun registry hear? - thestar.com
The problem is this is not an isolated case, but completely typical..........
This seems telling.
No problem leaving a firearm in the car, rather than secured in a gun safe as it should be. Next day, rather than move the gun from the car to the gun safe, still leaves it in the car while going to the hospital. Why would he need to have a shot gun at the hospital?
Some law abiding gun owner. Typical if you ask me.
Yeah, well.....a little careless......I imagine he simply forgot it was still in the car. Having guns laying around is not unusual for a lot of us........
But you know, most of us are not perfect.
If perfection were the prerequisite for anything, all of us would be allowed to do absolutely nothing.
Which is all beside the point....the registry is useless.......obviously.....and this is FAR from the only case. In fact it IS typical.
How typical????
How about 4,438 times........by 2003.....and obviously it is still going on.
http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/RCMP-ATIStolenGunsRegistered-2003-09-11.pdf
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Not really. This isn't just a no big deal opsy I forgot, it's a fukit I'll leave my guns in the car so I don't have to lug them back out again next time. It's not a matter of being a perfect person, it's a matter of taking the reasonable and appropriate steps to ensure that guns don't fall into the wrong hands. That you with all your training and understanding the law to say, it's not unusual for a lot of you to do the same.
This is exactly why you, like most others shouldn't be allowed to have a gun. If you want to shoot, go to a range where you can store and shoot your gun without it ever having to leave the range.
I dare say the biggest problem with the registry is that gun nuts go out of their way to sabotage it and it's not unlikely that a good number of those who worked on developing it, were and are gun nuts who continue to do what they can to make it fail.
Stupid people shouldn't be allowed near guns.
And so you have a gun registry, that some want removed. There not in that catagory.
As I said, it was careless, but I'm sorry, most of us fail to approach your status of perfection. (gee, what happened to that rolled eye icon???)
The police could have charged him with unsafe storage, but did not. I wonder why, as that seems to be standard procedure in gun theft cases??? Another bit of stupidity, which prevents many gun thefts from being reported.......
Yeah....store the guns at at shooting range....RIGHT, so they can all be stolen at once. Definitely among the dumbest ideas of the many stupid ideas promoted by gun controlers.....BTW, I've been on about 9 ranges. Seven of them were simply gravel pits. Store them where? As if I pay $1,000 bucks for a hangun to let somebody else hold on to it!
Just ludicrous.
Ahhh....the Auditor General, in her report on the gun regisry, said much of the problem with its cost was the rabid anti-gun attitude of the people in charge.....alienating the gun owners they were supposed to be helping.
We didn't screw it up.....it fact, we kept costs to an absolute minimum, by not registering most of our guns....LOL!!!!
The question is, do you want to work on solving the problems of criminal firearms use? Or do you just want to harass the hell out of shooters?
Because the second option appears to be the prefered one, and it is extremely counter-productive.
Lock them the **** up and they won't get stolen. Pretty damn simple.
Opening admitting you don't control your own guns is why the govt wants to step in.
Why is that so hard to figure out. If you are leaving guns unlocked laying around you are the cause of the problem.
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Oh I am far from perfect, first to admit that mate. But I don't leave my car running in front of a bunch of youths.
I don't leave drugs around where they can get into the wrong hands. I don't skip on safety and put others lives at risk because I am lazy. Some things take a greater level of care than others and it's not unreasonable to expect it is treated that way. Especially when it's a hobby like guns.
Shoulda coulda woulda doesn't save a single life.
No one has knocked over Fort Knox yet. This shows that places can be made safe from thieves. There is only one reason a range can't be secured and that is so that hand guns can be stolen from it to sell on the black market. Of course we all know who operates the gun ranges. Certainly not the "gun controllers". And it's this cavalier attitude of yours toward a safe society of peaceful people that is at the root of the problem with guns.
There you go. As much as an admission that you and others like you are not at all law abiding gun owners. Thus since you have a propensity for breaking the law when it comes to guns, you clearly shouldn't be allowed to own one. Maybe a bb gun but that's it. And not a good bb gun either.
There isn't really much of a difference is there? You like the majority of Canadian gun owners don't really have any need for a gun other than your own paranoid lifestyle. As you have admitted to being sloppy with the storage of your own guns, like most gun owners as you say, it's better for everyone that you don't have guns and no way to access them.