Gun Control is Completely Useless.

spilledthebeer

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So, therefore, give everybody killing machines?

What the hell is misfiring in your brain, anyway?


Bondo is a LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



MOST of his brain is MISS-FIRING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beals assume that anybody who disagrees with them is "TO DUMB TO VOTE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is just such LIE-beral idiocy that prompted the writing of Das Kapital and Mein Kampf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is perverted LIE-beral values that will launch World War THREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Telecommunications and energy policy. So you're wrong. Again.
Call Center Law !!![/QUOTE]




Oh????????????????????????


So you are one of the ASSHATS defending Ma Bell for its deceitful and deceptive billing practices??????????????????????


As described by CRTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why BOTHER defending broke ass low level CROOKS..............................................


when you can defend well heeled CORPORATE CROOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So I was right after all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU ARE up to your neck in SLEAZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And in any case you would DENY the truth even if the sleaze were CHOKING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The kind of law you CLAIM to practice is as honest as claims about where you live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do you ever tell the truth??????????????????????????????/


About anything??????????????????????????????????????


Even to your clients???????????????????????????????????????


And you actually THINK you are SLICK ENOUGH to promote YOUR VIEWS in an honest democracy????????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




You are exposing yourself for what you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The more you argue..................................................................


the more ordinary people you offend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral program for success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just tell LIES till LIE-berals become irrelevant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Look how well it has worked for Kathleen Wynne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And her less intelligent NDP cousin Rachel Notley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And poor Hilary Clinton could not defeat a big bag of "deplorables"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- that LIE-beral policy if LIE TILL YOU DIE is working so well that over 8- percent of the Cdn population is living in provinces with Conservative minded govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JLM

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Even if he is an idiot the lack of any denial by the Liberals is most concerning.


Maybe the immediate concern right now is banning guns going to gain him the most votes or lose him the most votes. I'm guessing lose not so much due to guns themselves, but more because of the idea another freedom being removed.
 

spilledthebeer

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Maybe the immediate concern right now is banning guns going to gain him the most votes or lose him the most votes. I'm guessing lose not so much due to guns themselves, but more because of the idea another freedom being removed.




I suggest the BIGGEST Beef Cdns will have with the LIE-beral gun ban would be related to NOT CONSULTING PARLIAMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Before confiscating the private property of legal owners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While IGNORING any effective action against CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That combination of bigoted action against legal owners while at the same time being SOFT ON CRIME.......................


will CRIPPLE the LIE-beral position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are AGAIN DEMONSTRATING their contempt for public opinion and PARLIAMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And the detail that will KILL the LIE-beral position.................................................


is that NATIVES WILL REFUSE to give up their guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals will close their eyes and LET NATIVES DEFY THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Natives REFUSED to participate in the Chretien LIE-beral gun registry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So why would they care about current idiot LIE-beral policy??????????????????????????



And we will not end up with a Supreme Court Challenge to the LIE-beral CRAP because the election will be on us BEFORE the lawyers get finished filing their preliminary papers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals know they would not be able to implement such policy before the election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Desperate LIE-berals are thrashing about seeking something.......................................................


anything.......................................................


to DISTRACT from Lavalin and Admiral Norman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Walter

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Trying to ban guns will guarantee Scheer will sweep into 24 Sussex in October this year with a huge majority.
 

Hoid

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Trying to ban guns will guarantee Scheer will sweep into 24 Sussex in October this year with a huge majority.
Scheer will never have a majority as all the band wagon liberals are jumping elsewhere.
 

Colpy

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AR-15 likely target of planned OIC

Daniel Fritter
May 10, 2019


Yesterday Tony Clement rose in the House of Commons to ask Bill Blair the following: “I am told on good authority that the prime minister has a secret plan to ban legal firearms. Apparently, this secret plan is to be executed by cabinet directive with no debate in parliament. The prime minister plans to announce this ban at the Women Deliver Conference, where New Zealand Prime Minister Ardern will also attend – can the prime minister confirm or deny this zero accountability, secret plan?”


“Our government remains absolutely committed to taking all the measures that are effective in keeping Canadians safe…there is no greater responsibility for any order of government than the safety of their citizens. We are prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective in doing so,” Blair replied.


However, while that carefully scripted non-committal response has sparked a furious response among Canada’s gun community (and rightfully so), it also highlights how little is known about the Liberal party’s intentions with regards to firearms. Having long since completed his stakeholder survey, Minister Blair’s office has been tight-lipped about how it will respond to the extensive study that found 81% of Canadians in favour of no new restrictions; a recommendation that flies in the face of a Liberal party policy plank that promised to “take handguns and assault weapons off Canadian streets” in 2015. The Liberal party seems at a crossroads, forced to confront the dissonance between their election mandate and Canadian attitudes, at a time when the Liberal Party of Canada and Justin Trudeau can ill afford to lose potential votes.


But, after some careful digging, we may have some direction. According to what Calibre staff have learned, a senior official in the government of Quebec has confirmed that they were told to expect a large news item pertaining to the AR-15.


After some consultation with experts, it is our expectation that such a news item would more likely take the form of an Order in Council-imposed ban on the transfer of any AR-15, similar to the action taken in New Zealand. Such an OIC may also migrate the AR-15 to prohibited status as well, with sources indicating that no confiscation is yet planned. Thus, it seems most likely that any action taken by the planned Order in Council will likely be followed by a Liberal Party campaign promise of legislative action to remove AR-15s and possibly other forms of firearms from civilian possession.


https://calibremag.ca/ar-15-likely-...dZGmb3RvkYUY6e1lElqcquhPgD98Wk2ErrKdaExi_JpE4


This makes sense. The Liberals can claim they have done something..........and promise more after they are elected.


It will not help them, but Trudeau supporters aren't all that smart.
 

Colpy

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‘Assault-style’ firearms aren’t the problem



Gun control in Canada has not reduced criminal violence, and banning semi-automatic firearms or handguns won’t help, either. Concerns are misplaced.




In a recent Policy Options article, Blake Brown maintains that “assault-style” rifles should be restricted, citing police concerns. Federal Crime Reduction Minister Bill Blair has conducted nation-wide consultations to see what Canadians think about banning similar types of firearms. But fanning fears about “assault-style” rifles merely diverts attention from more serious problems that Canadians need to face.


What are “assault-style” rifles and why should Canadians be frightened of them? Brown variously refers to “assault-style” rifles, “military-style weapons” and “semi-automatic” rifles. But these terms do not all refer to the same type of firearm. Interchanging the terms unduly stokes fears about civilian ownership of firearms.

Assault rifles are military weapons that can fire fully automatically, which means they continue to shoot as long as the trigger is held down. Canadian civilians have long been prohibited from owning such firearms; they are not used by the police, and few gang-related killings involve fully-automatic firearms. Just 2 of 266 firearms homicides in 2017 were reported to involve a fully automatic firearm. (See Table 5, page 30 of Statistics Canada’s document here.) However, it’s difficult to identify truly fully-automatic firearms from look-alikes, so these instances might even be errors.


In contrast, semi-automatic rifles require a separate trigger press to fire a shot. Millions of Canadians legally own and use firearms responsibly, including semi-automatic firearms. Most police forces in Canada are equipped with the kind of semi-automatic rifles that licensed and properly vetted Canadians can buy. While anti-firearms lobby groups call them assault weapons, the police call them patrol carbines. Blair recently stopped using the term “assault weapon,” acknowledging it is misleading.
Firearms, like any other tool, can be misused. But firearms are rarely used in violent crime – under 1 percent of the time, according to StatsCan. It does not make news, but firearms play a vital role in Canadian society. Over two million Canadian civilians – men and women – own and use firearms every day in a safe and responsible manner. Hunters use firearms for putting food on the family table; many families enjoy target shooting; farmers and orchardists rely upon firearms to protect their livestock, crops and other property from predators, and many households rely upon firearms to deter criminals. Canada’s Olympic athletes use semi-automatic firearms. In 1984, Linda Thom won Olympic gold with a semi-auto pistol.


Canada has strict firearms laws. To own a firearm, Canadians must undergo stringent screening to obtain a licence and again when they renew it every five years. Under a continuous eligibility screening program, police use nightly computer checks to review the eligibility of licenced firearms owners, looking for any complaints or warrants against them. Handguns (and some semi-automatic long guns) are registered and can only be transported to specified locations (gun shops and target ranges, for example) when they are unloaded with a trigger lock and in a locked container.


Canada’s system of gun control cost taxpayers over $2 billion, even though no convincing evidence has been found demonstrating that clamping down on law-abiding citizens has reduced criminal violence.


It is not evident what advantage can be gained from further tinkering with the current firearms law, either in Bill C-71 or by banning either handguns or semi-automatic firearms. In February 1995, the Canadian government banned more than half of then-legal handguns (see section 2.2.1.7, page 12 of this document), but the ban did not reduce handgun murders. Handguns continue to be the weapon of choice for criminals, and are the fastest growing type of firearm used in homicide.


In 1994, under then-US president Bill Clinton, the United States banned “assault weapons.” Ten years later, a National Academies study could not find convincing evidence that the ban had any beneficial effect. Nor did an international review of firearms laws find any examples of effective firearm bans.


Concerns about “assault style firearms” are overblown. In the United States, less than 1 percent of deaths by firearms are part of mass murders, representing 20 to 35 victims per 12,000 murder victims annually. In Canada, mass murder accounts for 2 to 3 victims out of 600 murder victims annually, and mass murders are not limited to firearms. Virtually none of the firearm murders is committed by a licenced gun owner. Cars and vans are also easily exploited by criminals and terrorists. Vans have occasionally been used in attacks in London and in Europe as well as Canada. The worst mass murder in Canada involved arson. But hype-filled media coverage of infrequent multiple murders involving firearms exaggerates the threat of “assault-style firearms.” Mass murders are horrible, but sensational news coverage paints a distorted picture of criminal violence.Focusing on scary-looking firearms diverts attention from more serious societal and economic problems.


The focus on “assault style” firearms might even be a red herring to distract attention from the failure of Canada’s police agencies to cope with challenges such as escalating gang violence, money laundering in casinos and property markets, and threats from Chinese cyber attacks. Our national police force, the RCMP, is stretched thin trying to cover all these problems. Expanding the firearms bureaucracy is not the best strategy for enhancing public safety.


We need to recognize that worries about scary-looking firearms are misplaced. Canada is facing real problems that are fundamentally more important. Why not go after gangs? For a start, violent criminals should be imprisoned longer and much more needs to be done to divert vulnerable youth from being recruited by gangs.

This article is a response to Why aren’t we tougher on “assault-style” firearms?, by Blake Brown (Policy Options, April 19, 2019).

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/maga...KyiRqawCKSy2J9y6Q0_gh0bGYWacXuf3tZD3lAalUYThg