Not a biggie, I don't get too excited over that guy! He just hasn't figured out how to think logically yet!
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Not a biggie, I don't get too excited over that guy! He just hasn't figured out how to think logically yet!
A man walks into a democratic country and says '.....a big segment of this population is too dumb to vote...'. Even if the man is technically correct, he is still wrong.
I don't expect you to agree or understand.
An armed security guard at a Colorado school may have mistakenly fired on sheriff's deputies and wounded a student amid a highly chaotic shooting rampage at the campus this week, authorities told ABC News on Thursday.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/guard-col...ot-deputies-wounded-student/story?id=62932261
What they really need in addition to armed mall cops is armed teachers.
What could possibly go wrong?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/guard-col...ot-deputies-wounded-student/story?id=62932261
What they really need in addition to armed mall cops is armed teachers.
What could possibly go wrong?
POOR SILLY Tehcumsehbonesforbrains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should go read the post from Colpy about the BENEFITS of gun ownership!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And afterwards.................................
you and all other LIE-berals should hang your head in SHAME at your own hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way `bonesforbrains.......................................
what kind of law do you practice?????????????????????????????????????
I am guessing defense lawyer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The sleazy side of LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, therefore, give everybody killing machines?
What the hell is misfiring in your brain, anyway?
Yeah. That's why I own seven long guns and six handguns.
By the way `bonesforbrains.......................................
what kind of law do you practice?????????????????????????????????????
I am guessing defense lawyer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The sleazy side of LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Telecommunications and energy policy. So you're wrong. Again.
Telecommunications and energy policy. So you're wrong. Again.[/QUOTE]
Call Center Law !!!
of course not, just give everyone the same tools as police officers and criminals. level the playing field.
https://twitter.com/TonyclementCPC/status/1126574249236488192
Check this out!
It appears we have a large gun ban coming in June.............without benefit of Parliamentary oversight.
Typical.
Can't let the peasants have a say.
Until October, anyway.
Edited to add:
Trudeau Has ‘Secret Plan’ on ‘Sweeping Gun Ban,’ MP Clement Says
Blair says government is “prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective” for safety.
9 May 2019
(Update 23:15 Toronto time: Adds that Clement video clip has more than 200,000 views.)
TheGunBlog.ca — Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a “secret plan” to order a “sweeping gun ban” early next month aimed at hunters, farmers and sport shooters, said Tony Clement, an independent member of parliament.
He declined to identify his source for the information.
“We are prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective” for safety, Minister Bill Blair, in charge of exploring mass gun confiscations for the past nine months, replied to Clement in the House of Commons today.
Blair’s spokeswoman later told TheGunBlog.ca nothing has been decided.
Key Points From Clement
Subscribe to TheGunBlog.ca at the bottom of this article to get our private e-mail updates and alerts.
‘Sweeping Gun Ban’
“The source had very specific information that Prime Minister Trudeau wants to announce before the fall election campaign a sweeping gun ban on hitherto legal firearms,” Clement told TheGunBlog.ca today by telephone.
The government will confiscate via Cabinet directive without a vote in parliament, he said.
‘Very Concerning’
“I find this very concerning and not democratic,” Clement said. “My protest is that he’s doing this gun ban that affects potentially millions of Canadians — hunters, farmers,” recreational shooters and other responsible firearm users.
200,000 Views
The former Conservative Party MP, who continues to oppose the governing Liberal Party, asked the government about the confiscation plan in the House of Commons earlier today.
(Transcript and link to full video are below.)
Video clips of the exchange between Clement and Blair on Clement’s Facebook and Twitter accounts showed more than 200,000 views as of 11:15 p.m. Toronto time. That’s equivalent to 1/10th of licensed gun owners.
Video via Tony Clement on Facebook
Bans for Votes
Trudeau is preparing to pass Bill C-71 as a new law to simplify gun bans. It will start by ordering the confiscation of rifles from some 15,000 men and women after they die. It will also make it harder for federally licensed shooters to buy, sell, own or travel with firearms.
New restrictions and prohibitions on hunters and sport shooters present an “untapped opportunity” for the Liberal Party to win this year’s election with a strong majority in parliament, a government communication adviser said last year.
Read: About 90% of Liberals Support Gun Ban in Cities, Ekos Chief Says
Hostile Liberals
Opinion polls show Liberal voters are the most hostile to gun owners.
The Conservative Party, provincial premiers and senior police leaders — including the chief of the federal police — have said they don’t support banning guns from lawful, legitimate and licensed individuals.
‘Full Ban’
Trudeau directed Blair in August to examine a “full ban” of handguns and many rifles and shotguns, all of them lawfully owned.
Bill C-71 will be Canada’s first major law against shooters since the Liberal Party passed the Firearms Act in 1995 to criminalize honest, safe and responsible men and women over paperwork, and to destroy hundreds of thousands of their guns.
Today, all firearms are banned for everyone under threat of prison unless they have a firearm licence.
Canadian law allows Cabinet to tighten the legal classification of firearms through a so-called “Order in Council,” or OIC. It can move handguns or AR-15 rifles from the “Restricted” list to the “Prohibited” list.
Early June Announcement
Trudeau will announce his confiscation in Vancouver at the Women Deliver conference to be attended by New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, Clement said.
The website for the June 3-6 conference lists Trudeau and his wife, Sophie, as speakers, but not Ardern.
Immediate Surrender?
Ardern ordered the immediate surrender of most centrefire, semi-automatic rifles and shotguns and many pump-action shotguns in March after a shooting massacre.
Blair told a Senate committee last month the government is “taking a very hard look at the weapons” used by the New Zealand attacker, which included rifles and shotguns. He told CTV News in March the government is preparing “pretty big measures” to further restrict civilian gun owners.
Clement didn’t say if Trudeau is targeting some or all gun owners, firearms, or places, or whether confiscation will be immediate or gradual.
More Canadian Than Hockey
Hunting and sport shooting are at the heart of Canadian heritage and culture, and farmers rely on guns to protect their livestock, crops and themselves.
About 2.2 million men and women have a gun licence, more than the number who play hockey. They buy more than a thousand new firearms each day.
Owning a gun is one of the most-tightly restricted and invasive activities for a Canadian living outside of prison.
It requires obtaining a licence after taking a safety course designed by the federal police, passing written and practical tests, passing background and reference checks, obtaining spousal approval, and passing a daily police background check.
Rules, Jail
Buying, selling, owning and traveling with guns are strictly regulated. Many firearms require special police permission to purchase and additional police registration to own. Police can inspect the homes of gun owners.
Violating any rule can lead to prison, such as taking a detour on the way to the target range or being late reporting a change of address.
Secret Source
Clement declined to identify his source of information or how they learned about the bans. The source isn’t in the firearm industry or a gun-rights association, Clement said.
“I have a source on good authority that is not the gun lobby,” he said.
Marie-Emmanuelle Cadieux, a spokeswoman for Blair, commented to TheGunBlog.ca by e-mail in response to our request for information.
Cadieux Comment
Following is the full text as transcribed by TheGunBlog.ca of Clement’s question in Question Period, followed by Blair’s response.
(Watch the House of Commons video replay starting at 15:07:50.)
Clement’s Question
“The interesting thing about Minister Blair’s response when I asked him to confirm or deny is that he did not deny,” Clement told TheGunBlog.ca.
Take Action
Check this out!
It appears we have a large gun ban coming in June.............without benefit of Parliamentary oversight.
Typical.
Can't let the peasants have a say.
Until October, anyway.
Edited to add:
Trudeau Has ‘Secret Plan’ on ‘Sweeping Gun Ban,’ MP Clement Says
Blair says government is “prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective” for safety.
9 May 2019
(Update 23:15 Toronto time: Adds that Clement video clip has more than 200,000 views.)
TheGunBlog.ca — Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a “secret plan” to order a “sweeping gun ban” early next month aimed at hunters, farmers and sport shooters, said Tony Clement, an independent member of parliament.
He declined to identify his source for the information.
“We are prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective” for safety, Minister Bill Blair, in charge of exploring mass gun confiscations for the past nine months, replied to Clement in the House of Commons today.
Blair’s spokeswoman later told TheGunBlog.ca nothing has been decided.
Key Points From Clement
- Trudeau government to ban guns by Cabinet order
- Trudeau to announce ban early next month
- Clement didn’t say whether:
- ban targets some or all owners
- ban targets some or all guns
- ban targets some or all places
- ban is immediate or gradual
Subscribe to TheGunBlog.ca at the bottom of this article to get our private e-mail updates and alerts.
‘Sweeping Gun Ban’
“The source had very specific information that Prime Minister Trudeau wants to announce before the fall election campaign a sweeping gun ban on hitherto legal firearms,” Clement told TheGunBlog.ca today by telephone.
The government will confiscate via Cabinet directive without a vote in parliament, he said.
‘Very Concerning’
“I find this very concerning and not democratic,” Clement said. “My protest is that he’s doing this gun ban that affects potentially millions of Canadians — hunters, farmers,” recreational shooters and other responsible firearm users.
200,000 Views
The former Conservative Party MP, who continues to oppose the governing Liberal Party, asked the government about the confiscation plan in the House of Commons earlier today.
(Transcript and link to full video are below.)
Video clips of the exchange between Clement and Blair on Clement’s Facebook and Twitter accounts showed more than 200,000 views as of 11:15 p.m. Toronto time. That’s equivalent to 1/10th of licensed gun owners.
Video via Tony Clement on Facebook
Bans for Votes
Trudeau is preparing to pass Bill C-71 as a new law to simplify gun bans. It will start by ordering the confiscation of rifles from some 15,000 men and women after they die. It will also make it harder for federally licensed shooters to buy, sell, own or travel with firearms.
New restrictions and prohibitions on hunters and sport shooters present an “untapped opportunity” for the Liberal Party to win this year’s election with a strong majority in parliament, a government communication adviser said last year.
Read: About 90% of Liberals Support Gun Ban in Cities, Ekos Chief Says
Hostile Liberals
Opinion polls show Liberal voters are the most hostile to gun owners.
The Conservative Party, provincial premiers and senior police leaders — including the chief of the federal police — have said they don’t support banning guns from lawful, legitimate and licensed individuals.
‘Full Ban’
Trudeau directed Blair in August to examine a “full ban” of handguns and many rifles and shotguns, all of them lawfully owned.
Bill C-71 will be Canada’s first major law against shooters since the Liberal Party passed the Firearms Act in 1995 to criminalize honest, safe and responsible men and women over paperwork, and to destroy hundreds of thousands of their guns.
Today, all firearms are banned for everyone under threat of prison unless they have a firearm licence.
Canadian law allows Cabinet to tighten the legal classification of firearms through a so-called “Order in Council,” or OIC. It can move handguns or AR-15 rifles from the “Restricted” list to the “Prohibited” list.
Early June Announcement
Trudeau will announce his confiscation in Vancouver at the Women Deliver conference to be attended by New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, Clement said.
The website for the June 3-6 conference lists Trudeau and his wife, Sophie, as speakers, but not Ardern.
Immediate Surrender?
Ardern ordered the immediate surrender of most centrefire, semi-automatic rifles and shotguns and many pump-action shotguns in March after a shooting massacre.
Blair told a Senate committee last month the government is “taking a very hard look at the weapons” used by the New Zealand attacker, which included rifles and shotguns. He told CTV News in March the government is preparing “pretty big measures” to further restrict civilian gun owners.
Clement didn’t say if Trudeau is targeting some or all gun owners, firearms, or places, or whether confiscation will be immediate or gradual.
More Canadian Than Hockey
Hunting and sport shooting are at the heart of Canadian heritage and culture, and farmers rely on guns to protect their livestock, crops and themselves.
About 2.2 million men and women have a gun licence, more than the number who play hockey. They buy more than a thousand new firearms each day.
Owning a gun is one of the most-tightly restricted and invasive activities for a Canadian living outside of prison.
It requires obtaining a licence after taking a safety course designed by the federal police, passing written and practical tests, passing background and reference checks, obtaining spousal approval, and passing a daily police background check.
Rules, Jail
Buying, selling, owning and traveling with guns are strictly regulated. Many firearms require special police permission to purchase and additional police registration to own. Police can inspect the homes of gun owners.
Violating any rule can lead to prison, such as taking a detour on the way to the target range or being late reporting a change of address.
Secret Source
Clement declined to identify his source of information or how they learned about the bans. The source isn’t in the firearm industry or a gun-rights association, Clement said.
“I have a source on good authority that is not the gun lobby,” he said.
Marie-Emmanuelle Cadieux, a spokeswoman for Blair, commented to TheGunBlog.ca by e-mail in response to our request for information.
Cadieux Comment
Minister Blair engaged with Canadians and experts about ways to combat increasing gun violence through multiple formats, the results of which will help us determine next steps as to any possible changes to firearms legislation, all while respecting law-abiding gun owners. Contrary to Mr. Clement’s question no decision has been taken nor has he been privy to any discussions.
Here is the engagement summary report following the dialogue on handguns and assault-style rifles undertaken by Minister Blair and Public Safety Canada.
Link to Report
Question PeriodHere is the engagement summary report following the dialogue on handguns and assault-style rifles undertaken by Minister Blair and Public Safety Canada.
Link to Report
Following is the full text as transcribed by TheGunBlog.ca of Clement’s question in Question Period, followed by Blair’s response.
(Watch the House of Commons video replay starting at 15:07:50.)
Clement’s Question
Thank you, Mister Speaker.
Mister Speaker, I am told on good authority that the Prime Minister has a secret plan to ban legal firearms. Apparently this plan is to be executed by Cabinet directive with no debate in Parliament. The Prime Minister plans to announce this gun ban at the Women Deliver Conference held in early June in Vancouver, where New Zealand Prime Minister Ardern will also attend.
Can the Prime Minister confirm or deny this zero-accountability secret plan?
Blair’s ResponseMister Speaker, I am told on good authority that the Prime Minister has a secret plan to ban legal firearms. Apparently this plan is to be executed by Cabinet directive with no debate in Parliament. The Prime Minister plans to announce this gun ban at the Women Deliver Conference held in early June in Vancouver, where New Zealand Prime Minister Ardern will also attend.
Can the Prime Minister confirm or deny this zero-accountability secret plan?
I just want to assure this House that our government remains absolutely committed to taking all the measures that are effective in keeping Canadians safe. And as I believe every member of this House will agree, there is no greater responsibility for any order of government than the safety of their citizens and the protection of their kids. We are prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective in doing so.
No Denial
“The interesting thing about Minister Blair’s response when I asked him to confirm or deny is that he did not deny,” Clement told TheGunBlog.ca.
Take Action
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Does this ban also include law enforcement ? If the populous is unarmed , why should the police need weapons ?https://twitter.com/TonyclementCPC/status/1126574249236488192
Check this out!
It appears we have a large gun ban coming in June.............without benefit of Parliamentary oversight.
Typical.
Can't let the peasants have a say.
Until October, anyway.
Edited to add:
Trudeau Has ‘Secret Plan’ on ‘Sweeping Gun Ban,’ MP Clement Says
Blair says government is “prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective” for safety.
9 May 2019
(Update 23:15 Toronto time: Adds that Clement video clip has more than 200,000 views.)
TheGunBlog.ca — Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a “secret plan” to order a “sweeping gun ban” early next month aimed at hunters, farmers and sport shooters, said Tony Clement, an independent member of parliament.
He declined to identify his source for the information.
“We are prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective” for safety, Minister Bill Blair, in charge of exploring mass gun confiscations for the past nine months, replied to Clement in the House of Commons today.
Blair’s spokeswoman later told TheGunBlog.ca nothing has been decided.
Key Points From Clement
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- Trudeau government to ban guns by Cabinet order
- Trudeau to announce ban early next month
- Clement didn’t say whether:
- ban targets some or all owners
- ban targets some or all guns
- ban targets some or all places
- ban is immediate or gradual
Subscribe to TheGunBlog.ca at the bottom of this article to get our private e-mail updates and alerts.
‘Sweeping Gun Ban’
“The source had very specific information that Prime Minister Trudeau wants to announce before the fall election campaign a sweeping gun ban on hitherto legal firearms,” Clement told TheGunBlog.ca today by telephone.
The government will confiscate via Cabinet directive without a vote in parliament, he said.
‘Very Concerning’
“I find this very concerning and not democratic,” Clement said. “My protest is that he’s doing this gun ban that affects potentially millions of Canadians — hunters, farmers,” recreational shooters and other responsible firearm users.
200,000 Views
The former Conservative Party MP, who continues to oppose the governing Liberal Party, asked the government about the confiscation plan in the House of Commons earlier today.
(Transcript and link to full video are below.)
Video clips of the exchange between Clement and Blair on Clement’s Facebook and Twitter accounts showed more than 200,000 views as of 11:15 p.m. Toronto time. That’s equivalent to 1/10th of licensed gun owners.
Video via Tony Clement on Facebook
Bans for Votes
Trudeau is preparing to pass Bill C-71 as a new law to simplify gun bans. It will start by ordering the confiscation of rifles from some 15,000 men and women after they die. It will also make it harder for federally licensed shooters to buy, sell, own or travel with firearms.
New restrictions and prohibitions on hunters and sport shooters present an “untapped opportunity” for the Liberal Party to win this year’s election with a strong majority in parliament, a government communication adviser said last year.
Read: About 90% of Liberals Support Gun Ban in Cities, Ekos Chief Says
Hostile Liberals
Opinion polls show Liberal voters are the most hostile to gun owners.
The Conservative Party, provincial premiers and senior police leaders — including the chief of the federal police — have said they don’t support banning guns from lawful, legitimate and licensed individuals.
‘Full Ban’
Trudeau directed Blair in August to examine a “full ban” of handguns and many rifles and shotguns, all of them lawfully owned.
Bill C-71 will be Canada’s first major law against shooters since the Liberal Party passed the Firearms Act in 1995 to criminalize honest, safe and responsible men and women over paperwork, and to destroy hundreds of thousands of their guns.
Today, all firearms are banned for everyone under threat of prison unless they have a firearm licence.
Canadian law allows Cabinet to tighten the legal classification of firearms through a so-called “Order in Council,” or OIC. It can move handguns or AR-15 rifles from the “Restricted” list to the “Prohibited” list.
Early June Announcement
Trudeau will announce his confiscation in Vancouver at the Women Deliver conference to be attended by New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, Clement said.
The website for the June 3-6 conference lists Trudeau and his wife, Sophie, as speakers, but not Ardern.
Immediate Surrender?
Ardern ordered the immediate surrender of most centrefire, semi-automatic rifles and shotguns and many pump-action shotguns in March after a shooting massacre.
Blair told a Senate committee last month the government is “taking a very hard look at the weapons” used by the New Zealand attacker, which included rifles and shotguns. He told CTV News in March the government is preparing “pretty big measures” to further restrict civilian gun owners.
Clement didn’t say if Trudeau is targeting some or all gun owners, firearms, or places, or whether confiscation will be immediate or gradual.
More Canadian Than Hockey
Hunting and sport shooting are at the heart of Canadian heritage and culture, and farmers rely on guns to protect their livestock, crops and themselves.
About 2.2 million men and women have a gun licence, more than the number who play hockey. They buy more than a thousand new firearms each day.
Owning a gun is one of the most-tightly restricted and invasive activities for a Canadian living outside of prison.
It requires obtaining a licence after taking a safety course designed by the federal police, passing written and practical tests, passing background and reference checks, obtaining spousal approval, and passing a daily police background check.
Rules, Jail
Buying, selling, owning and traveling with guns are strictly regulated. Many firearms require special police permission to purchase and additional police registration to own. Police can inspect the homes of gun owners.
Violating any rule can lead to prison, such as taking a detour on the way to the target range or being late reporting a change of address.
Secret Source
Clement declined to identify his source of information or how they learned about the bans. The source isn’t in the firearm industry or a gun-rights association, Clement said.
“I have a source on good authority that is not the gun lobby,” he said.
Marie-Emmanuelle Cadieux, a spokeswoman for Blair, commented to TheGunBlog.ca by e-mail in response to our request for information.
Cadieux Comment
Minister Blair engaged with Canadians and experts about ways to combat increasing gun violence through multiple formats, the results of which will help us determine next steps as to any possible changes to firearms legislation, all while respecting law-abiding gun owners. Contrary to Mr. Clement’s question no decision has been taken nor has he been privy to any discussions.Question Period
Here is the engagement summary report following the dialogue on handguns and assault-style rifles undertaken by Minister Blair and Public Safety Canada.
Link to Report
Following is the full text as transcribed by TheGunBlog.ca of Clement’s question in Question Period, followed by Blair’s response.
(Watch the House of Commons video replay starting at 15:07:50.)
Clement’s Question
Thank you, Mister Speaker.Blair’s Response
Mister Speaker, I am told on good authority that the Prime Minister has a secret plan to ban legal firearms. Apparently this plan is to be executed by Cabinet directive with no debate in Parliament. The Prime Minister plans to announce this gun ban at the Women Deliver Conference held in early June in Vancouver, where New Zealand Prime Minister Ardern will also attend.
Can the Prime Minister confirm or deny this zero-accountability secret plan?
I just want to assure this House that our government remains absolutely committed to taking all the measures that are effective in keeping Canadians safe. And as I believe every member of this House will agree, there is no greater responsibility for any order of government than the safety of their citizens and the protection of their kids. We are prepared to consider whatever measures will be effective in doing so.No Denial
“The interesting thing about Minister Blair’s response when I asked him to confirm or deny is that he did not deny,” Clement told TheGunBlog.ca.
Take Action
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- Join TheGunBlog.ca below to get our private e-mail updates. (See our About page if this is your first visit.)
- Contact your MP to share your concerns (polite and professional), and cc. Bill Blair, Tony Clement and Glen Motz of the Conservative Party. Optional bcc: letters@thegunblog.ca (Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca, Tony.Clement@parl.gc.ca, Glen.Motz@parl.gc.ca, letters@thegunblog.ca)
- Join at least one national gun-rights association and/or provincial hunting organization.
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