Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Excerpt: How Canadians helped create the NRA
These are excerpts from the Excerpt........if you follow.
"Canada was born just in time to join the fun. Few Canadians are aware that the first sport to receive federal funding in their fair and peaceful land, almost as soon as Canada became Canada, was rifle shooting. In 1867, the British North America Act created Canada; in 1868, motivated by the need to defend peace, order, and good government, Canada became a nation of riflemen through a Militia Act that created a 40,000-man active militia.
The federal government was soon funding the newborn Dominion of Canada Rifle Association to the tune of $10,000 a year. Ottawa also provided rifles to all active militia members, bought and rented rifle ranges for the Rifle Association, funded rifle competitions, and provided a supply of cheap ammunition. National defence was an urgent matter. Everyone still remembered the Fenian raids. With all that money behind them, Canadian shooters were soon winning medals in international rifle matches, and in 1871 at Wimbledon — a venue then known for rifle shooting, and not for tennis — took prizes in all events they entered.
"In England,and more especially in Canada, the policy of providing ranges of sufficient extent for long-range rifle practice, has developed a large and formidable force for national defence,” remarked an 1872 editorial in the New York Times. “Canada today has 45,000 trained marksmen among her volunteers, England 150,000, while the United States has none."
Wow, I had no idea we had our own militia or that rifle shooting was the first federally funded sport in Canada.
"In 1871, dismayed by the poor shooting they had seen among Union recruits in the Civil War, and sharing the popular view that individual marksmanship would settle the fate of nations, Gen. George Wingate and Col. William C. Church followed the example set by Canada and Britain and founded the National Rifle Association to “promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis.” For help, they turned to the experts. The NRA sent emissaries to Canada, Germany, and England to confer with expert marksmen and military thinkers, and Canadian rifle shooters were soon helping to instruct the NRA’s members. In 1872, when the NRA started building the first rifle range in the United States at Creedmoor on Long Island, they enlisted the assistance of their Canadian counterparts. Even when it comes to the NRA, we can blame Canada.
In the late 19th century, rifle shooting was a mainstream sport, and the New York Times and Toronto’s Globe newspaper reported the results of shooting matches as they do golf today. Everyone got in on the game. Prominent citizens donated prizes to rifle associations, including cups and gold badges just as Lord Stanley and the Albert Grey, 4th Earl Grey, donated trophies for hockey and football. The New York Times published frequent reports on the NRA’s plans and on the progress of construction at the Creedmoor range, which opened in June 1873.
At the NRA’s first annual match at Creedmoor, in October 1873, there was just one long-range shooting event, the Sharpshooter’s Championship, at 800 and 1,000 yards. First prize went to a Canadian. When the British invited the NRA to send American marksmen to compete at Wimbledon that year, the NRA leadership demurred. The United States was not ready. But by 1874, American shooters were winning rifle matches in Canada. The American rifleman had come into his own."
Excerpt: How Canadians helped create the NRA | Toronto Star
And there you go, were it not for the Canadians where would the NRA be today, eh.
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After the Civil War, the U.S. looked to Canada — a nation of marksmen — for help in training the newly formed National Rifle Association, writes A.J. Somerset in an excerpt from his book Arms: The Culture and Credo of the Gun.
A team sent by the Dominion of Canada Rifle Association to a meeting at Bisley, U.K., in 1906. In Canada’s early years, the association received annual funding from the federal government.
These are excerpts from the Excerpt........if you follow.
"Canada was born just in time to join the fun. Few Canadians are aware that the first sport to receive federal funding in their fair and peaceful land, almost as soon as Canada became Canada, was rifle shooting. In 1867, the British North America Act created Canada; in 1868, motivated by the need to defend peace, order, and good government, Canada became a nation of riflemen through a Militia Act that created a 40,000-man active militia.
The federal government was soon funding the newborn Dominion of Canada Rifle Association to the tune of $10,000 a year. Ottawa also provided rifles to all active militia members, bought and rented rifle ranges for the Rifle Association, funded rifle competitions, and provided a supply of cheap ammunition. National defence was an urgent matter. Everyone still remembered the Fenian raids. With all that money behind them, Canadian shooters were soon winning medals in international rifle matches, and in 1871 at Wimbledon — a venue then known for rifle shooting, and not for tennis — took prizes in all events they entered.
"In England,and more especially in Canada, the policy of providing ranges of sufficient extent for long-range rifle practice, has developed a large and formidable force for national defence,” remarked an 1872 editorial in the New York Times. “Canada today has 45,000 trained marksmen among her volunteers, England 150,000, while the United States has none."
Wow, I had no idea we had our own militia or that rifle shooting was the first federally funded sport in Canada.
"In 1871, dismayed by the poor shooting they had seen among Union recruits in the Civil War, and sharing the popular view that individual marksmanship would settle the fate of nations, Gen. George Wingate and Col. William C. Church followed the example set by Canada and Britain and founded the National Rifle Association to “promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis.” For help, they turned to the experts. The NRA sent emissaries to Canada, Germany, and England to confer with expert marksmen and military thinkers, and Canadian rifle shooters were soon helping to instruct the NRA’s members. In 1872, when the NRA started building the first rifle range in the United States at Creedmoor on Long Island, they enlisted the assistance of their Canadian counterparts. Even when it comes to the NRA, we can blame Canada.
In the late 19th century, rifle shooting was a mainstream sport, and the New York Times and Toronto’s Globe newspaper reported the results of shooting matches as they do golf today. Everyone got in on the game. Prominent citizens donated prizes to rifle associations, including cups and gold badges just as Lord Stanley and the Albert Grey, 4th Earl Grey, donated trophies for hockey and football. The New York Times published frequent reports on the NRA’s plans and on the progress of construction at the Creedmoor range, which opened in June 1873.
At the NRA’s first annual match at Creedmoor, in October 1873, there was just one long-range shooting event, the Sharpshooter’s Championship, at 800 and 1,000 yards. First prize went to a Canadian. When the British invited the NRA to send American marksmen to compete at Wimbledon that year, the NRA leadership demurred. The United States was not ready. But by 1874, American shooters were winning rifle matches in Canada. The American rifleman had come into his own."
Excerpt: How Canadians helped create the NRA | Toronto Star
And there you go, were it not for the Canadians where would the NRA be today, eh.
:lol:Dejavu anybody?
I'm pretty sure Obama's commissioned report dispells all of that, Bbyrd. Please try to keep up.
I'm pretty sure Obama's commissioned report dispells all of that, Bbyrd. Please try to keep up.
Taught us Yanks how to shoot it would seem. After hosing down Rebels by the tens of thousands there weren't any left of them to teach the northerners how to shoot when it was over.
Numbers, numbers, numbers... one of the key formulas to winning the US Civil War.
Actually... looking at the dates perhaps it was some of my ancestors that did the teaching. Were Newfoundlanders known for their shooting skills?
I don't think so. There are many reasons for women to feel insecure with spouses, lovers, or ex-boyfriends that love guns. Those who go in for love of guns seem to lose control when annoyed. It seems those who go for partnerships with males that only feel safe with guns, find they are the targets when control of the women in their lives is lost. The stats show that. Also take a look at the suicide rates of males by guns.
What the heck if life is not worth living women change it, men end it!!!
So....all those things show is that sharp shooting by Canadians was a skill. Now try to tell me how Americans feel about sharp shooting..... It is to kill!!
You might try to get your mind around the fact that there was a better solution to the American Civil war......(There was nothing civil about it in my opinion but then you have your own opinion). You would have a very much more peaceful and sane population if you had negotiated freedom instead of shooting and killing those who wished to do so.
Oh that's right... because Canadians never fought in a war and there are no gun murders in Canada.
BTW... The Canadians hold the second and third longest sniper kills in Afghanistan. Let that sink in!
Sure there was a better solution. Stopping the spread of slavery and ending slavery all together. OR the U.S Government could have just allowed slavery to spread and continued the practice. Alas none could agree and the U.S Civil War began.
Oh yes Canadians did fight in a war.....WWII and for the whole lot from 1939 o 1945. You realize during the most of that time the US sold arms to both sidesII I am sure that no one said anything then because we needed the weapons. It was not until the Japenese bombed Pearl Harbour that the US got off it haunches and joined the war. What is gauling they still think they won the war. If they hadn't sold weapons to the Nazis the war would have been over long before 1945. So don't give me any of the shat about how brave the US was!
Canadians fight on the side of right if such a side can be determined and usually not for profit. So yes our troops go where they are needed,blackmailed into and not for what the government can control and make out of the deal. Open your eyes. No government is perfect. The US one has been one of the worst. And I am a great supporter of Obama. The poor bugger is doing his best against stiff Republican opposition. It says a lot when Donald Trump is the best you people can come up with!!
As far as slavery goes, Canada had a very short history of it and if our troops during the war you lost, hadn't gotten home sick and returned home you would all be Canadian. Where do you think the railway to freedom during the civil war was going?? Itf wasn't to Russia or Mexico, it was to Canada.
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Nah... check your history.
Nah... check your history.
The Germans had PLENTY of weapons and they were better that the US weapons at the beginning.
It wasn't until Dieppe that the Brits allowed Canadian troops into action... after Pearl Harbor. Check your history.
We did! So did Canada!
What weapons? Tiger tanks? Panzers? Messerschmitts? Junkers? MGs? Mk-88's?
Like Libya? Iraq? Syria? lmao
Like Libya? Iraq? Syria?
I'm SHOCKED!
Perhaps if he had done a good job the Democrats would still be in charge of Congress.
What do you mean... we have Hillary!
At any rate... you are just POed that I brought up that the 2nd and 3rd best snipers in Afghanistan were Canadian... and they weren't shooting paper targets.
Canada was a slave holding nation... until the 1830's! You must be proud!
"if our troops during the war you lost, hadn't gotten home sick and returned home you would all be Canadian"
What on earth are you talking about? You must be furious up there in your igloo!
Obama's newly commissioned study reviewed the stats from all creditable sources and found no such thing. Since his study was commissioned in the wake of the sandyhook tragedy, and it was intended to dig up the worst issues with firearms, I find your POV to be wrong.
I would advise you to read the report, and re-educate yourself on this topic.
Zut alors!
We did. Just not in the way you think.
What U.S.-made weapons did the Nazis use?
Never. Only Canada is brave. The U.S. is evil. And cowardly. And violent (but not good, war-against-bad-guys violent, only evil cowardly violence).
Don't be silly. The U.S. is THE worst, ever. You clearly believe that. Which makes me wonder why you think the Canadian alliance with the U.S. in WWII was a good thing. If the U.S. was worse than Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, wasn't your beloved syrupy Canada fighting on the wrong side?
Last I checked, it was the USA that was big on syrupy pancake houses. In Canada, it is beer and hockey.
What can I say? I stand in awe of your elegant, sophisticated, high culture.
