The biggest killer of birds was herbicides and pesticides, until the chemical company's were forced to change their formulas. How do we change wind generators to be more bird friendly?
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The biggest killer of birds was herbicides and pesticides, until the chemical company's were forced to change their formulas. How do we change wind generators to be more bird friendly?
Not whirlygigs either.
It's not just birds but the entire ecosystem that surrounds them.
The low wave vibrations drive critters and people nuts.
Wind farms have their environmental road blocks all the same.
Environmental damage is environmental damage.
Pick your form.
Sounds like such a fantastic benefit to Gaia and all her creatures
Time and all those bird choppers cause even more damage
Given that using coal and oil kills more wildlife of all sorts than any other form of energy it is hard to see how wind and solar can be any worse. If we really cared about birds we'd stop building skyscrapers.
Wow, that comment is pure genius. Who would have guessed that solar power is not wind power?
So why did you slip a solar power link into a conversation on whirlygigs?
Habit of going off prematurely?
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Other than in your imagination, how does coal or oil actively kill birds?
Skyscrapers don't reach out and swat birds with scissor-like blades
The Liberals in Massachusetts are in total agreement. Once there was a movement to put windmills off Hyannis, the Kennedy's and Liberal Democrats came out with definitive proof that windmills are a threat to birds.
AND a threat to Native American Culture.
Maybe you should try something new - like reading the thread title. All discussion of renewables is appropriate or perhaps you don't realize solar and wind power are both green energy.
Wow, two stupid comments in one post.
Alberta’s Wildlife Death Toll on the Rise
https://iowatarsandsproject.wordpress.com/2014/12/19/albertas-wildlife-death-toll-on-the-rise/
Cars may kill 60 million birds per year
(That includes ELECTRIC ones...lol, for the liberals on the thread, that's cars, not birds!
That number would NOT change if all the cars were electric.)
Wind turbines may kill 33,000 birds per year, and, as in the case of electrocutions, these birds tend to be large and scarce (e.g. raptors). The recent surge of interest in wind power has heightened concerns about their effect on birds, and has led to at least the discussion of efforts by the wind power industry to design more benign windmills and to choose locations that are less “birdy”.
It’s difficult for an environmentalist to come out against renewable energy like wind turbines, but as long as the electricity generated is considered a “supplement” to satisfy increasing demand, wind power will not really help the fight against global warming.
Causes of Bird Mortality - Sibley Guides
Raptors are worth a lot of pigeons. Their loss is expensive to farmers too.
oh for you gun grabbers:
Hunting – as a point of reference the carefully-managed annual waterfowl hunt kills about 15 million birds a year in North America. This, of course, is balanced by extensive and well-funded management and conservation efforts so hunting is not a threat to the population of any North American bird, and conservation efforts led by hunters have been hugely beneficial to many species in addition to the ones being hunted.
(from the above link)
(That includes ELECTRIC ones...lol, for the liberals on the thread, that's cars, not birds!
That number would NOT change if all the cars were electric.)
Wind turbines may kill 33,000 birds per year, and, as in the case of electrocutions, these birds tend to be large and scarce (e.g. raptors). The recent surge of interest in wind power has heightened concerns about their effect on birds, and has led to at least the discussion of efforts by the wind power industry to design more benign windmills and to choose locations that are less “birdy”.
It’s difficult for an environmentalist to come out against renewable energy like wind turbines, but as long as the electricity generated is considered a “supplement” to satisfy increasing demand, wind power will not really help the fight against global warming.
Causes of Bird Mortality - Sibley Guides
Raptors are worth a lot of pigeons. Their loss is expensive to farmers too.
oh for you gun grabbers:
Hunting – as a point of reference the carefully-managed annual waterfowl hunt kills about 15 million birds a year in North America. This, of course, is balanced by extensive and well-funded management and conservation efforts so hunting is not a threat to the population of any North American bird, and conservation efforts led by hunters have been hugely beneficial to many species in addition to the ones being hunted.
(from the above link)
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Will Wind Turbines Ever Be Safe For Birds? | Audubon
Bear in mind that this is NorAm stats and this does not include the number that are not recorded based on coyotes, foxes and other predators carried away.
Now add in these critters and the #'s really start to rack up
Wind Turbines Now Kill 3 -5 Million Bats Per Year. And For What?
Bear in mind that this is NorAm stats and this does not include the number that are not recorded based on coyotes, foxes and other predators carried away.
Now add in these critters and the #'s really start to rack up
Wind Turbines Now Kill 3 -5 Million Bats Per Year. And For What?
You can't rescue those birds with a bottle of Dawn.
Snow geese are killing hundred of thousand of hectares of prime tundra caribou rely on.
Spring and fall hunting seasons. 64 a year per hunter.
I don't like them so I use them for dog food.
They love them.
Snow geese are killing hundred of thousand of hectares of prime tundra caribou rely on.
Spring and fall hunting seasons. 64 a year per hunter.
I don't like them so I use them for dog food.
They love them.
When did Alberta get tarsands? Must be just this year or we would have heard about them by now.