Global Warming: still the ‘Greatest Scam in History’

taxslave

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My word, give it up. Just in recent memory the climate change is drastic. Mind you where I live, it mostly suits me. However, for my grandchildren it spells disaster. I lived through -30 and -40's, huge winter snows and dry summers.

Now there is green grass showing where there used to be 3 to 4 feet of snow all the time. Open water where we used to skate!!. I no longer cover my roses, thank you they do very nicely without coverage.

The biggest change, I could fall asleep in the sun and simply become a nice brown in my adolescence, now 15 minutes in the sun without sun block and I would be in danger of pain and blisters!! So keep on telling me there is no climate change!!

I have shoveled snow 5 feet high and one of my kids shoveled it another 2 feet so the driveway was clear for the bulk tank. Now it is not necessary to shovel snow at all, it rarely gets more than 6" deep. So keep telling me nothing has changed or it is normal. If it is normal, then start looking very soon for massive fire storms!!

In my attic there were papers of a local newspaper. There was an article about a farmer in this area who died from exposure due to a sudden snow storm in Julywhile bringing in his cows for milking. So keep on telling me there is no weather change.!!

Still not as warm as it was in medieval times so define normal.
 

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Perhaps the giants from the ancient past were just people who had access to 2 or 3 times the amount of food that we have access to
 

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darkbeaver

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Climate change tax? WTF? Get off my steps and fuk off.

I was just down in Florida.

Massive building projects all underway on Miami Beach! So much for sea level rise!

And more building projects in the works.

Chinese developer gets approval for 18-story condo in Miami Beach - See more at: China City Construction Miami Beach | 6747 Collins Avenue

Got some rays did you? Top hole old boy.
 

Johnnny

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Do folks still talk about the venus example? Run away greenhouse gases made venus the hottest planet don't let it happen to earth.... Guess what folks? The poles on venus are colder than ours, yep you heard it from me.

Save the polar bears by leaving your car idle.

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darkbeaver

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The idea that mere humans could have an affect on the climate is really stupid if you do the math, and the math is so easy even I can do it, the climate would be the same obn earth now even if humans never existed, the climate dosen't even know we are here,kiss my *** you aint gettin bo climate tax

Man you are HAMMERED! Lay off the booze and head to bed! Geez!

Groundless accusations, simple dodgeing of he issue. It's because of my accent and skin colour. fukkin yank
 

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Perhaps the giants from the ancient past were just people who had access to 2 or 3 times the amount of food that we have access to
lot's of bean stalks in those times

The idea that mere humans could have an affect on the climate is really stupid if you do the math, and the math is so easy even I can do it, the climate would be the same obn earth now even if humans never existed, the climate dosen't even know we are here,kiss my *** you aint gettin bo climate tax



Groundless accusations, simple dodgeing of he issue. It's because of my accent and skin colour. fukkin yank
slip that bottle to me,,,,,
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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LOL well, consider the years of famine directly following that warming period & the reduction of the population directly following that period. If the pattern is normal, we are in for a much more massive thinning of all world life than occurred back then.


When the Weather Went All Medieval: Climate Change, Famine, and Mass Death - The Daily Beast

From my recollections, the famines happened when it cooled down. Suddenly growing seasons weren't warm or long enough to sustain the food crops of the time.
 

darkbeaver

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Climate change is happening without the suggested tax. So why is it necessary to apply the tax when the climate is already changing. I think we should get in line and adapt to the change and stop trying to buy our way to heaven, it ain't going to happen idiot tax payer, the physical limitations of the human race dictate powerless witness to very compelling natural sequences of change. We got this far by going along with things we should not correct our course on the advice of bagmen.
 

Ludlow

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Climate change is happening without the suggested tax. So why is it necessary to apply the tax when the climate is already changing. I think we should get in line and adapt to the change and stop trying to buy our way to heaven, it ain't going to happen idiot tax payer, the physical limitations of the human race dictate powerless witness to very compelling natural sequences of change. We got this far by going along with things we should not correct our course on the advice of bagmen.
we need Alice the Goon to save us
 

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From my recollections, the famines happened when it cooled down. Suddenly growing seasons weren't warm or long enough to sustain the food crops of the time.
What would those be based on? In the winters that we have now and have had in the 'recent' past does the American Southwest get more rain than it does in winter months?
The climate models that are animated used a map of the earth but when the white ice moves down from the north the map keeps the desert regions the same shape and size but reality shows that when winter comes along and the snow moves south the desert regions shrink and the moisture falls the land then turns green. That change would be gradual over 1,000's of years before it stabilized into a system that delivered the same stable weather for a few 100,000 years.

Since the desert regions recede and they can support two crops per year you would have to lose 2x as much farmland to the frost before 'ice-age conditions' are 'worse'. What would be worse is having it com on a society that does not know what is going on and how to minimize the impact on Society. Move from the frost to where the rain is starting to fall, any other option will lead to you becoming extinct.

Today when people get in close proximity they fight, in an era where the weather puts you in close proximity and food is abundant it works out for the various parties if they co-op on projects. If you want some 'new recollections' lets try that weather model and rewind time a few ice-ages and promote that as the source for the 'advanced civilizations' that 'vanished' when the culprit was and end to an era that would see the 'food belt' of the world turn to dust in a remarkably short period of time. The 'survivors' now had to fight for food or die and that would have been the first and biggest change and the next one was the gap the desert region caused as far as working with your neighbors.

Do I have any links, no, does that make the climate change model inaccurate, no as the model is based on observations that are called 'records', especially the differences between summer and winter in North America in the present and near future and the far future. The 'slo-mo' version would see the 12 month winters start in the east and gradually work their way across the land until they reached the Pacific Ocean. That is what the stable weather pattern would be based on and the cold water going into the Pacific might have been enough to cool the hot water that was driving the perpetual winter model and the w-e winds began to blow again and that is what broke the last ice cycle 15,000 years ago.


Some of the math that the last ice-age was based on the current oceans were smaller in the past 200M years. If you were to try and model the weather that far back as far as ice-ages go you would have to allow the flooding of the existing dry land as the existing ocean basins sunk back into the rifts they originally came from. The Pacific Rift originally started out at the AB/BC border and erosion is said to have worn down a mile or so of the 'original Rockies' during their creation and the migration of the rift to where it is now. The reason for doing that is at the present height they would almost be totally covered by the 'rising ocean'.
With the ocean crustal plates removed and the land areas joined to create a new, smaller, globe with the same amount of water and 'air' that we have today the ocean level would be a certain height higher than it is today and the air pressure at 'sea level' would also be higher so the creature alive at that time would take advantage of both of those conditions.
How much would the drop of 400 ft cause on a globe the size of the one we have today? (for plants in a CO2 rich and thicker atmosphere 200M years ago you would have to remove 12,000 miles from the present day circumference so that would almost double the amount of air pressure and more food would mean the O2 breathing creatures of the day would have double what we have available today.) If more plants exist in the inhabitable parts of the earth during an ice-age the O2 content should be a tad higher, same as if you lived in the Amazon compared to Arizona today.
 

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This is one of the better ones I've seen lately. When the 'dirty snow' on the glaciers is mentioned as contributing to the warming and it is blamed on the soot from wildfires (and dust) but they change the tone to put that as being a man-made event and man has nothing to do with wildfires.
 

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LOL Try to find at least a partially balanced news source.

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From my recollections, the famines happened when it cooled down. Suddenly growing seasons weren't warm or long enough to sustain the food crops of the time.
You have a great memory for sure.

"Long before the bitter cold winters and drenching rains of the early 14th century announced the end of the Medieval Warm Period (MWP), Europe had expanded dangerously close to the limits of its resources. Four centuries of unusually mild temperatures (the highest in 8,000 years), prompted the continent’s farmers to plant crops on vast quantities of land previously unsuitable for agriculture; the increased food supply in turn fueled a population explosion that tripled the number of people in medieval Europe."

Now in this region within my memory say 30 years or so, this region very rarely grew good crops of eating corn because the growing season was too short. Now, it thrives here. Back then I could not keep a rose plant from one year to another despite several feet of mulch. Last few years they grow on the north side of the house with NO winter covering. The human population is expanding at a great rate as well. If the rate of cooling goes as quickly as the heating of this planet has, I think the changes will be felt not by far future descendants but by the babies of today. Worse, inspite of all the improvements in farming methods, we still have many starving to death. So try leaning further towards caring for our planet rather than dissing those who are.