Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

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petros

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petros,
Welcome back. Nothing like facts to confuse the "head in butt" crowd.
It's because of the penny pinching, money hungry conservatives that we have these records. If they weren't so tight assed there would be room for denial but unfortunately there isn't.
 

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It's because of the penny pinching, money hungry conservatives that we have these records. If they weren't so tight assed there would be room for denial but unfortunately there isn't.

Penny pinching?

:lol::lol::lol:

Cons run up huge debts and deficits, they are out of control spenders who muck up economies.
 

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So, did you learn anything about climate, weather, trends, noise, and expected outcomes? Or are you twisting my words into some kind of strawman?

What I am saying is that you are locked in your beliefs and a mountain of contrary evidence will not convince you otherwise. That is part of the make up of GW supporters.

I could do all the research in the world...

I could dedicate my whole life to this, from this moment on...

I could stand at the edge of a glacier until it consumes me...

You will not be moved...not an inch.

True?
 

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What I am saying is that you are locked in your beliefs and a mountain of contrary evidence will not convince you otherwise. That is part of the make up of GW supporters.

I could do all the research in the world...

I could dedicate my whole life to this, from this moment on...

I could stand at the edge of a glacier until it consumes me...

You will not be moved...not an inch.

True?

You are so sure it's all a big scam, debate the science with Ton, show us why you think it's not true based on science and not what Al Gore does.

Can you?

Can you back it up?

Without C&P's?

I'd love to see you try.

 

EagleSmack

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Over the past decade it has rained in Saskatchewan every January. You call that "normal"?

Ohhhh wait, wait, wait...

One of the first rules of Global Warming Alarmist is NOT to look at local weather! Not to look out your window or pay attention to "coldest weather in decades" stuff.

But I guess as long as it fits YOUR BELIEFS it is all OK to point out rain in Saskatchewan.

Do you Global Warming guys believe this upstart? He's messing everything up for you and HE IS A SCIENTIST so he claims.
 

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What I am saying is that you are locked in your beliefs and a mountain of contrary evidence will not convince you otherwise. That is part of the make up of GW supporters.

I clearly in that post made the distinction for those who don't know, the differences between weather and climate. You can choose to take that for what it's worth. I don't think you can be convinced otherwise on what the differences are.

I could do all the research in the world...
I doubt it.

I could dedicate my whole life to this, from this moment on...
But you won't.

I could stand at the edge of a glacier until it consumes me...
Or hold your breath til mommy gives you the cookie.

You will not be moved...not an inch.
I will move when:
(a) someone proposes a new hypothesis, grounded in science and not hand waiving like the articles you've posted
(b) a hypothesis that can explain the current state of the climate system
(c) when that hypothesis is confirmed by many other independent researchers, so as to be a working theory
(d) when that working theory can make successful predictions

I don't think that is too much to ask.

So, what would that mean? It means:
(a) finding some kind of negative feedback that actually swamps out the anthropogenic component
(b) a new forcing that replaces the anthropogenic component's magnitude
(c) that new forcing explains the differences between the stratosphere and troposphere temperature trends, explains the decreasing difference in the diurnal temperature range

That would be a good start. Then maybe I'll move. Until that time, I stick with the working theory, and the large body of evidence. I'm not convinced by your used car salesman google cuts.
 

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Ohhhh wait, wait, wait...

One of the first rules of Global Warming Alarmist is NOT to look at local weather! Not to look out your window or pay attention to "coldest weather in decades" stuff.

But I guess as long as it fits YOUR BELIEFS it is all OK to point out rain in Saskatchewan.

Do you Global Warming guys believe this upstart? He's messing everything up for you and HE IS A SCIENTIST so he claims.

Coldest weather where?

....and this isn't the only place on the planet either.
 

petros

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Ohhhh wait, wait, wait...

One of the first rules of Global Warming Alarmist is NOT to look at local weather! Not to look out your window or pay attention to "coldest weather in decades" stuff.

But I guess as long as it fits YOUR BELIEFS it is all OK to point out rain in Saskatchewan.

Do you Global Warming guys believe this upstart? He's messing everything up for you and HE IS A SCIENTIST so he claims.
What's messed up? Your reality? Is this an emotional issue for you? Monetary? Are you afraid to admit you are partly responsible? Should we go back to the old days and fill our skies with fly ash again so it can be nice and chilly like it was in the 70's?

Yes I am a scientist. Are you? What did you study? Shop?

So why is rain in January in SK only a recent phenomenon? How about rain in Yelloknife in January? Is that "normal" too? How about all that warm moist air that makes it snow in Ontario again. Why did Vancouver get nailed with moist cold air from the north this winter. Why is moist air coming from inland?

If you aren't looking out your window you must be looking out your ass, When people's views out their windows are out of the ordinary and you correlate all the windows across the country it makes it that much harder to deny.

You are losing ground here and fast. I'll pummel you with facts all day if you want. Is that what you want?
 
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Jeeez, Eagle. It really looks like you still don't understand. I will try as simply as possible to explain it: local weather has only just a tiny fraction of relevance to GLOBAL climate change. Just because it is freezing in Yahk, BC or Wuhan, China doesn't mean the rest of the planet is freezing.
 

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Ahhh Toni... witty but not as witty as Spades. You have taken the Kool-Aid and you shall wallow in despair as the movement is on it's last gasps. At one time these threads covered the forum and now there is just one thread, albeit a robust one today due to me and the GW Alarmists who are crying to be heard. The soap box is now bare as there is no one to listen.

So drone on about the toposphere as people around the world put on their coats and mittens as they have done (and will continue to do) year after year to brave the winter.

Throw another log on the fire and drink a cold Moosehead that you left outside because the fridge is too full and it is plenty cold outside. Don't leave them out too long though as they might freeze.
 

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Jeeez, Eagle. It really looks like you still don't understand. I will try as simply as possible to explain it: local weather has only just a tiny fraction of relevance to GLOBAL climate change. Just because it is freezing in Yahk, BC or Wuhan, China doesn't mean the rest of the planet is freezing.

Don't tell me... tell that to Petros... he brought it up.
 

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I didn't think you had anything substantive to say. You're just another Scotty. Have a good day smack.
 

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Ahhh Toni... witty but not as witty as Spades. You have taken the Kool-Aid and you shall wallow in despair as the movement is on it's last gasps. At one time these threads covered the forum and now there is just one thread, albeit a robust one today due to me and the GW Alarmists who are crying to be heard. The soap box is now bare as there is no one to listen.

So drone on about the toposphere as people around the world put on their coats and mittens as they have done (and will continue to do) year after year to brave the winter.

Throw another log on the fire and drink a cold Moosehead that you left outside because the fridge is too full and it is plenty cold outside. Don't leave them out too long though as they might freeze.

Since you know the facts, I'm not sure why you don't debate the science with Ton instead of personal insults.

Is it because your opinion is based on ideology and nothing more?
 

petros

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You knew the definition of winter was decreased sunlight hours didn't you? Or you never thought that might be why it gets cold in winter and more sunlight hours in summer makes it warmer? Have the hours of sunlight changed?
 

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What's messed up? Your reality? Is this an emotional issue for you? Monetary? Are you afraid to admit you are partly responsible? Should we go back to the old days and fill our skies with fly ash again so it can be nice and chilly like it was in the 70's?

Not as much an emotional issue for you.

Me partly responsible? For what? I don't believe the tripe. Are you buying carbon credits?

Yes I am a scientist. Are you? What did you study? Shop?

You aren't a very good one that is for sure. You act like a child.

Shop? No... or else I wouldn't be on this computer when I probably should be working.

But I guess you have something against the people that build and repair your house, fix your cars, fix and repair roads.

You are above them eh? Better than them?

Besides Petros... I don't believe for one moment you are a scientist.

So why is rain in January in SK only a recent phenomenon? How about rain in Yelloknife in January? Is that "normal" too? How about all that warm moist air that makes it snow in Ontario again. Why did Vancouver get nailed with moist cold air from the north this winter. Why is moist air coming from inland?

Local weather... ta ta ta...can't use that.

If you aren't looking out your window you must be looking out your ass,

Not a very intellectual thing to say for a scientist. :lol:

When people's views out their windows are out of the ordinary and you correlate all the windows across the country it makes it that much harder to deny.

Does that mean the 40' mini mountain of snow in the mall parking that only gets bigger is a result of Global Warming? It is the biggest I've seen!

You are losing ground here and fast. I'll pummel you with facts all day if you want. Is that what you want?

Losing ground. Hardly.

Go ahead.. it shall ammuse me.
 
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