Getting my PhD
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Anecdotal - My wife has worked in a variety of jobs over her life time - When she was working in a female dominated office the gossip and I do mean of the malicious type, back biting was beyond belief.
When she was working in an office - gender balance more male than female - she noted the difference - men would have it out - sort it out and carry on.
Go back farther than 30 years - In the 30's - 40' a grade 12 was considered well educated -
Today it is a mix of education and skill sets but a Masters is worth the dollars today.
Also certain trades - can make a really good income - Millright comes to mind.
That rings a distant bell in my memory. I once read a StatsCan study about the economic returns of higher education (based of course on long form census data...) that examined aggregate data about time spent in school versus time spent in the labour force and how much extra income you got over your working life for higher education compared to the income you didn't earn while you were at school. The break even point was an incomplete Masters degree.
Keep your head down, compliment the ladies, all of them, be quite open and prolific in your telling each and every one Thank you for your help and how much you appreciate them. Then pray it works. Some times the truth is best kept to oneself. This is one of those situations. Again - Pray it works - You do not need extra stress at a time like this now do you.
I know a few women that are like those men. Also, I know a few men that are like some women.
There's the occasional incident, yes. These days, HS education mostly gets you menial jobs in service industries.
Probably the same one that daughter #2 read. She's getting her M. S. in health sciences. (Proud Mum has to boast a little)
I think she said the same study mentioned that the average is 5 career changes per lifetime in Canada.Flattery works wonders. Money works better.
That YJ, it total nonsense. Our knowledge of the world, of sciences etc. has vastly increased over the last 30 years.
Indeed, a high schools graduate from 30 years ago will be barely considered literate today. Would he know how to use a personal computer, internet? Cell phone, Blackberry? What kind of employable skills would he have today?
Most of the technological gadgets we use today were unheard of in those days. I don’t think a high school graduate from 30 yeas ago (if he time travels forward to today’s age) will be able to survive in today’s world, without a refresher course.
So a high school graduate from 30 years ago is worth more than a Ph.D today? Get real. It probably is worth a lot less than a high school diploma today.
Those things are only a means to an end, not an end in themselves. My 9 year old grand daughter can operate all of the above mentioned. They involve rote, not deep logical thought. :smile:
An advanced degree confirming studies accomplished is merely the "ticket to the ride".
What one does with that ticket is become an observer doing and learning nothing, or soaking in the information to apply and change and revise and adapt to whatever endeavour of study one has chosen.
It is the same in any life work - regardless of degree or certificate or title assigned - there are those who
coast on the laurel and those who seek to explore and improve and even change the destination.
It's what you want in life - not the ticket to do so. A high degree won from academia doesn't necessarily imply intellect in ALL things - but in a chosen subject and even then the intellect is never expanded nor fulfilled as the degree would imply.
The problem in our society we award attributes because of the degree which are not there, only the
work of study and examination which has been accomplished with little growth and exploration beyond.
The degree is only an entrance to enhance the work not to retire without further work.
Getting back on topic about gender specifics - I think there are some major differences between male and female (generally speaking) that denote certain group characteristics when in free discussion and comparative exchange and learning modalities. Men are more quietly aggressive while women are more vocal. Not wrong - just different.
What one does with that ticket is become an observer doing and learning nothing, or soaking in the information to apply and change and revise and adapt to whatever endeavour of study one has chosen.
It is the same in any life work - regardless of degree or certificate or title assigned - there are those who
coast on the laurel and those who seek to explore and improve and even change the destination.
It's what you want in life - not the ticket to do so. A high degree won from academia doesn't necessarily imply intellect in ALL things - but in a chosen subject and even then the intellect is never expanded nor fulfilled as the degree would imply.
The problem in our society we award attributes because of the degree which are not there, only the
work of study and examination which has been accomplished with little growth and exploration beyond.
The degree is only an entrance to enhance the work not to retire without further work.
Getting back on topic about gender specifics - I think there are some major differences between male and female (generally speaking) that denote certain group characteristics when in free discussion and comparative exchange and learning modalities. Men are more quietly aggressive while women are more vocal. Not wrong - just different.
Oh yeah, like men never gossip, get catty, moody, brooding, spiteful or hold grudges for exceedingly LONG periods of time. I've worked in a few places where the majority of the employees are men and let me just say HA!! :lol:
You've said a lot and it's all good. I've worked under many people who have a degree, and lots of smarts but no wisdom. Book learning helps you gain smarts but experience is what gives you wisdom. Some are under the mistaken illusion that a degree makes you a better person...........................WRONG.................what makes you a better person is how you put the knowledge to good use, and of benefit to others, not using it just to become more obnoxious and arrogant. :smile::smile:
Second that HA, and raise you a HO HO.
There's a couple guys whom I haven't seen since high school who are getting a punch in the face, first time I lay eyes on em. Used to be three, but one died.
Now, THAT'S a long period of time.
Not that a severe grudge is held, or a slight is daily dwelt upon; but, a memory is long.
Must be a Scot's thing.
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8OSo a high school graduate from 30 years ago is worth more than a Ph.D today? Get real. It probably is worth a lot less than a high school diploma today. __________________________so sayeth Sir Joe."""
Welllllllllllllll, not really. Not worth more than a PHD for sure, but at least most of us could do basic math, spell, use a slide rule, and construct a paragraph.
Have you really listened to some grads of today..........like.........er........like.........ah.......youknow........like.......reallllllllllly........:confused3:
Just saying.