Fed up with Islam Yet???
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How is it possible for Canadian Muslims to publicly denounce so called "honor killings" if this is part of Islam?
Community reaction to Canadian fatwa blasting 'honour killings' - Your Community
Canada News: Muslim clerics band together to denounce
According to the UN which has studied this form of violence against women, honor killings cut across religious and cultural boundaries:
Reports submitted to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights show that honor killings have occurred in Bangladesh, Great Britain, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Pakistan, Morocco, Sweden, Turkey, and Uganda. In countries not submitting reports to the UN, the practice was condoned under the rule of the fundamentalist Taliban government in Afghanistan, and has been reported in Iraq and Iran. But while honor killings have elicited considerable attention and outrage, human rights activists argue that they should be regarded as part of a much larger problem of violence against women.
In India, for example, more than 5,000 brides die annually because their dowries are considered insufficient, according to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF). Crimes of passion, which are treated extremely leniently in Latin America, are the same thing with a different name, some rights advocates say.
"In countries where Islam is practiced, they're called honor killings, but dowry deaths and so-called crimes of passion have a similar dynamic in that the women are killed by male family members and the crimes are perceived as excusable or understandable," said Widney Brown, advocacy director for Human Rights Watch.
The practice, she said, "goes across cultures and across religions."
http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/212/readings/honor-kil-ng.pdf
Attempts to portray this form of violence as being unique to Muslims and inherent in Islam is demonizing propaganda. Its purpose is to justify religious intolerance and bigotry directed at Muslims. Focusing on only Muslims who commit these crimes while ignoring the other religions and cultures where the same violence occurs for the same reasons, and is treated leniently by authorities is deliberately manipulative.
Community reaction to Canadian fatwa blasting 'honour killings' - Your Community
Canada News: Muslim clerics band together to denounce
According to the UN which has studied this form of violence against women, honor killings cut across religious and cultural boundaries:
Reports submitted to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights show that honor killings have occurred in Bangladesh, Great Britain, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Pakistan, Morocco, Sweden, Turkey, and Uganda. In countries not submitting reports to the UN, the practice was condoned under the rule of the fundamentalist Taliban government in Afghanistan, and has been reported in Iraq and Iran. But while honor killings have elicited considerable attention and outrage, human rights activists argue that they should be regarded as part of a much larger problem of violence against women.
In India, for example, more than 5,000 brides die annually because their dowries are considered insufficient, according to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF). Crimes of passion, which are treated extremely leniently in Latin America, are the same thing with a different name, some rights advocates say.
"In countries where Islam is practiced, they're called honor killings, but dowry deaths and so-called crimes of passion have a similar dynamic in that the women are killed by male family members and the crimes are perceived as excusable or understandable," said Widney Brown, advocacy director for Human Rights Watch.
The practice, she said, "goes across cultures and across religions."
http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/212/readings/honor-kil-ng.pdf
Attempts to portray this form of violence as being unique to Muslims and inherent in Islam is demonizing propaganda. Its purpose is to justify religious intolerance and bigotry directed at Muslims. Focusing on only Muslims who commit these crimes while ignoring the other religions and cultures where the same violence occurs for the same reasons, and is treated leniently by authorities is deliberately manipulative.
Looks like the religion of peace has incorporated some McCarthyism-style tactics to ensure that the flock doesn't stray.
So you're trying to claim that there is no outrage in Canada when a mother drowns her kids, or a father kills his wife and kids?
Maybe you just don't follow the news. That could be your problem.
We don't think of it as unique to Muslims. Mind you, the family support that makes it acceptable to kill your kids isn't as common when you step outside of the Muslim apologist world.
White (Christian) chicks will kill their kids just so they can hook up with another loser boyfriend. We probably kill more of each other also as well as all the other crimes that plague any large gathering of people.
I think most sane people will condemn the individual responsible for murder and family violence.
But only an intolerant bigot would blame an entire religion for murder and family violence.
Most intolerant bigots have trouble understanding the concept of individual responsibility, when they are trying to justify their fear and hate of an entire religion.
But only an intolerant bigot would blame an entire religion for murder and family violence.
Most intolerant bigots have trouble understanding the concept of individual responsibility, when they are trying to justify their fear and hate of an entire religion.
You don't seem to grasp the concept of society and culture very well.
Let me ask you - why do you think murder and family violence is wrong?
According to Islamaphobic bigots, many Muslim men murder their female family members out of some sort of religious obligation. Apparently their religion makes them dangerous. If I understand the rationale:
People don't kill people, Muslims kill people.
Unless of course the other person is a Muslim. Do Muslims count as people?
Since Muslim are inherently dangerous, we should register them. I hear the government has a big empty database that used to hold gun registry information. A Muslim registry would save authorities from having to do racial profiling. Or why not just force them to wear something visible outside their clothing so we can all identify Muslims more easily.
People don't kill people, Muslims kill people.
Unless of course the other person is a Muslim. Do Muslims count as people?
Since Muslim are inherently dangerous, we should register them. I hear the government has a big empty database that used to hold gun registry information. A Muslim registry would save authorities from having to do racial profiling. Or why not just force them to wear something visible outside their clothing so we can all identify Muslims more easily.
I just saw "muslim apologist" and thought why anyone would have to apologize simply for being muslim. I read the rest of the recent posts and realized the context is different tho.