Fat Kids
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For my daughter and I, it was the playroom, as we could sit
and drink our coffee and have a good chat, while my grandson
was flinging himself about in the playroom, and not sitting
beside his mom saying "mom, I want to go, it's boring here",
another ploy by the company, which brings many families in.
Right! I forgot about the playroom as I'm "between" young daughters and grandchildren...you know, that "awkward" age! And that must explain why I don't go to McDs. At least you have a reason, and it sounds reasonable to me...I'd likely do the same thing (but I still wouldn't eat the beef!) :lol::lol:
I'll never eat that beef again, haven't had one of those
big macs for about 5 years, but I have to admit that once
every 6 months or so we visit burger king,(nice playroom), and have a whopper, (very light on the sauce, just a hint of the flavour), and I like the taste of them, they are char
broiled, which gives them that barbecued flavour, but even
then, once I've had my fill, I don't want to see another
one for months.
Not anymore. I started wondering a few years ago why even Egg Nog that claimed it was the "Original" still tasted like it was diet crap. I don't drink Egg Nog often but if I am going to have any, I want the real thing. A couple of weeks ago, I was glancing at the newspaper and noticed a recipe for homemade Egg Nog. I had been thinking about making my own this year so I was drawn to the recipe. It mentioned that it was for people who do not like their Egg Nog with raw eggs. I then realized that the yolks were missing in the store version and that was the reason why it tasted so bland and so watered down.
What a fantastic recipe it turned out to be. Easy to make with cooked eggs (eggs made into a bit of a custard first) added to milk and cream. Not as thick and I'm sure not quite as fattening as when I bought it from the store with the raw eggs but without preservatives and no fear of raw yolks. I was amazed at how quickly it disappeared around here. It can be made a few days before Christmas but it only makes about 10 cups so next time I'll double the recipe.
I don't think they will take a hit at all. Places that sell liquor and give service where tips apply will take the hits. It would not surprize me at all if fast food outlets increase their business. No tip to pay, buy your booze at the liquor store and take it home along with the burgers and fries. I think it is the "middle" class restaurants that will close. People will still go out to the high end places because you expect to pay the price anyway. Wait staff will suffer when it comes to tips because no one (at least most) will pay 15% on top of the rest of the meal. That 15 - 20 % is going to drop to about 5%.
The Denny's you went to is an okay place. We used to go there often on Fridays after work. Places like that will probably survive because it is attached to a hotel chain.
I think you might be right, but I hope you're wrong. Waiters cannot afford to take a hit like that. The work is hard enough as it is (and no waiter I know is overpaid), so a hit like that would be disastrous for wait staff. That is not good.
I disagree, people like him (just like old W.A.C. who nobody used to vote for but he always breezed through every election). Gordo has 31/2 years, longer than most people's memories. Even the people who like Carole James would be deathly afraid of having her for a premier.
And if fast food places become "more attractive" because of the HST, it won't do our "Fat Kids" any good at all. (Staying on topic here...) :-|
Was it you who asked about reds and greens? If it was - click on settings on the top of your page and then choose control panel. When that opens up you will see who is giving you greens and sometimes you can get a red but people don't always sign their "reds".
Regarding the HST, that was actually my point but I think it's going to happen and I doubt Gordo cares. He's trying to find a way to pay for the Olympics.
Yup. Companies want to develop food that grows bigger and lasts longer in transport. So they try a variety of ways to do this. They use everything from chemicals to genetic engineering. It's all about profit: getting the most money through the easiest and cheapest means. And people are just too lazy to demand the small tasty tomato over the huge tasteless tomato so these companies get away with it.
Education is the key I think.
We can hope.
Consumers do not demand the additives. What they demand is good taste, good texture, overall good tasting product, at a moderate price. And also the product must have a long shelf life; they don’t like it if the product is spoiled 2 or 3 days after they buy it.
The only answer to this is plenty of additives, preservatives etc. So consumers are not asking for additives and preservatives. But by the demand they place on their food, they are indirectly permitting the use of additives and preservatives.
That is all part of advertising, PR, countryboy. Word ‘healthy’ means nothing; it is not defined in government regulations somewhere. My definition of healthy maybe different from your definition of healthy. So you can hardly blame the food industry for using labels such as healthy, nutritious, etc. for their products. Unless and until governments and courts define exactly what is meant by ‘healthy’ or ‘nutritious’, it will continue.
Organic food forms only a small part of the overall food industry. Since it is relatively recent, it may experience fast growth, that is the case with anything new. But eventually the demand for organic food will plateau at a much smaller value than demand for nonorganic food. The reason for that is that organic food is much more expensive than nonorganic stuff. While some people may be willing to pay more for organic food, many are not.
I don’t’ see organic food as being any threat to food industry in general. Sure it has its niche, but there is no way it will replace the food industry, it is just not cost effective.
Really? Then why are people still paying six bucks for it, why don’t they make their own cereal? The answer is that food industry sells convenience. Making your own cereal (oatmeal, muesli or whatever) take time, and nobody has time these days. Food industry sells convenience in a package and people find that convenient.
As I said before, food industry is not ideology driven, it is profit driven. If tomorrow people want good nutrition, food without any additives and preservatives, are willing to pay more for it and they stop buying the junk that food industry puts out, why the will stop selling the junk and start selling good food.
But that is how they hook them, Francis. It starts out with apple slices, salads and then graduates to Big Mac and french fries.
There is a big difference between car industry and food industry, countryboy. Cars are the same all over the world; food varies from one region to another in the same country. So Japanese car manufacturers could enter the North American or European markets with relative ease.
Food is totally different in Japan and USA; it will be very difficult for a Japanese food industry to branch out into USA. How many foreign food companies do you see? On the contrary, if anything it is the Americans who are making inroads all over the world. The fast food chains such as McDonald’s, Wendy, Subway, Burger King etc. are everywhere these days.
Indeed, I did remark on this in another thread a while ago. In Britain, fish and chips used to be the native fast food. These days fish and ship shops have almost completely disappeared, to be replaced by McDonald’s, Burger King etc.
I don’t think the analogy between cars and food is appropriate.
That indeed is the bottom line JLM, the price. All this talk of nutrition, additives, preservatives etc, is well and good, but at the end of the day, price is the deciding factor as to whether a restaurant stays in business or goes belly up (unless it fulfills a particular niche, then it can get away by charging high prices).
So if Denny’s can outbid McDonald’s in terms of prices, it will drive McDonald’s out of businesses. If not, it won’t, both will survive.
Quite so VanIsle, I don’t think fast food places are going anywhere, they will do just fine. Besides, HST will hardly apply to fast food alone, it will apply to all the restaurants. So I don’t see how fast food outlets are at a competitive disadvantage here.