Experts quiet climate-change skeptics: Warming leads to longer cold snaps

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The tagline for that website is that science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.
 

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The tagline for that website is that science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.
The irony is that the tagline is a quote from Richard Feynman, a distinguished scientist to be sure. The quote comes from an address Feynman made to an annual meeting of the National Science Teachers Association. He is essentially telling the teachers to trust not in experts-because all experts will be wrong about something at some point- but to examine the methods, how they came to their conclusion. At one point Feynman says we live in an unscientific age, and mentions the impact of media.

What makes this ironic, is that Goddard publishes nonsense daily on his blog. Once, he published some nonsense in the popular press due to this internet fame (Steven Goddard is a pseudonym):
Arctic ice refuses to melt as ordered

He claimed that the National Snow and Ice Data Center plot was wrong. A scientist at the center replied in an Editor's Note, and Goddard had to issue a retraction. But by then, the article had already been pinged through the blogosphere nearly 100 times.

If the Register had competent science editors or a review process, they might have deduced that the blogging 'expert' was wrong. Precisely the sort of methods Feynman was trying to inspire in science teachers.

To bring this back to your thread, it's not the science that says a warming Arctic can produce cooler winter temperature extremes, it's the outcome of an analysis of observational data, with detailed methodology. If we want to follow in the foot steps of great scientists and educators like Feynman, we have to trust that we can follow along with what was said, and draw our own conclusions. It's clear that many here do not emulate this advice.
 

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Easy guys.

Just dispute the facts with logical analysis please.

There was absolutely no facts in the OP. Just more recycled wild claims by people that refuse to admit they were wrong. Again.

All "climate change" "models" are incorrect.

Not necessarily. Climate change in the real world would also mean the onset of another ice age. Which this past winter would indicate.
 

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Missing Heat in Oceans – backup of post at Jennifer Marohasy’s Blog

Posted on March 28, 2014 by Louis Hissink
Gerald H Pollack has rediscovered an interesting property of water. Irradiate water with infrared radiation and two processes occur,
1. about half the energy raises the temperature as expected, and
2. about half the energy causes electric charge separation producing exclusion zone water poor in protons. This process has been verified in the laboratory.
We also know that the specific heat of water is double that of most other substances, and from Pollack’s work we now know why – half the energy is directed to a sort of water battery and lost forever as ‘heat’.
Water covers 70% of the earth.
So where do you think the missing heat is? In the oceans, of course, but as electrical energy, not thermal. This is an elegant solution to Trenberth’s problem the missing heat.
Pollack Laboratory - Pollack Laboratory

The discovery has staggering numbers of applications.
 
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mentalfloss

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You think heated oceans is a new discovery?

Oceans are where most of the warming is absorbed.
 

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You think heated oceans is a new discovery?

Oceans are where most of the warming is absorbed.

That's not the story, the physics explaining that energy is. That is a very big development in climatology worth many times all the money wasted on garbage science drying too pass off a con game as science.
Water is life, and this is a most significant development in understanding it's properties.
 

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Experts say:

Polar vortex' that caused record cold is related to solar activity, not man-made CO2
An analysis by*meteorologist*Guido Guidi at the Italian Climate Monitor site debunks claims that the US record cold was caused by man-made global warming. The analysis shows there has been no overall trend in the jet stream zonal velocity over the past 66 years, which in turn controls the polar vortex. At least 3 published papers confirm this conclusion.*

The analysis also finds the jet stream/polar vortex is correlated to the natural 60-year climate cycle and solar activity, which is also confirmed by peer-reviewed papers and may represent another solar amplification mechanism.

THE HOCKEY SCHTICK: New paper relates natural 60 year climate cycle to the effects of solar activity and cosmic rays.