Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes

[barney]

Naw, he's not famous for being an idiot, he just is an idiot. Or perhaps I mispoke....he is a hypocrite that cons idiots out of $12,000 a night to hear him speak.....:roll: I have no respect for those that work to undermine the very society that tolerates their scorn, and makes them rich in the process....Chomsky, Michael Moore...that bunch.

Micheal Moore plays political games, Chomsky does not.

Calling Noam Chomsky an idiot, hypocrite...scum 8O ... is beyond description. Nice one man. Reeeeal nice. You do us proud. :canada:

 

[MHz]

..nobody expected it to be that easy.

BTW, Iraq was no pushover in 1990......

Which was it?

 

[MHz]

China is an enemy? News to me. I'm not exactly sure that Canada has any enemies besides the Taliban at this point. But, judging by past Ayatollahs, it's not a stretch to think there's not much difference between the Taliban and the Iranian administration at times at least attitude-wise.

Um, as far as Chomsky goes, we all know how objective and unbiased he can be, right?

You do mean attitude towards the West right? Just how should a Nation feel about an invasion of 1,000's of foreign troops that kill more civilians than the ones they claim to be fighting? How should Iran feel when threatened with the very same action for some , as yet not completed reason?

No enemies, perhaps you are unaware that an enemy can also come with a smile and hand-shake your hand just before stabbing you in the back.

 

[earth_as_one]

Ethnic cleansing? Aren't there still Palestinians living in Israel? Wouldn't they be the first to go if ethnic cleansing was actually what Israel was up to?

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Palestinian PM's sisters living in Israel

But what has this to do with Iran and nukes anyway?

That's what behind the smoke an mirrors.

March 29, 2006

...Avigdor Lieberman, a Moldova-born West Bank settler whose uncompromising platform is branded as openly racist by critics.

He plans to strengthen Israel’s status as a Jewish state by transferring 500,000 of its minority Arab population to the West Bank, by the simple expedient of redrawing the West Bank to include several Arab Israeli towns in northern Israel. Another 500,000 would be stripped of their right to vote if they failed to pledge loyalty to Zionism.

Once unthinkable, its advocate now finds himself on the right of the political mainstream, with many more nominally centrist Israelis voicing quiet support for the notion.

"I think the real reason for the conflict is the friction between two nations; two religions," Mr Lieberman told The Times on the eve of the election."I don’t believe in co-existence....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article698718.ece

Lieberman currently serves as Minister of Foreign Affairs and he also has the title of Deputy Prime Minister.

 

[ironsides]

Oh just get them involved in the Turkey Testicle Festival
YouTube - Just Visit US - Turkey Testicle Festival

 

[AnnaG]

lol We all know inspectors never miss anything don't we? lmao Anyway, I don't care whether Iran has them or not. I wouldn't put it past Iran to use them if they do have them. I'm quite confident that the US or Israel has plans to use theirs.

I should have clarified this. I am quite sure the US and Israel have plans to use their nukes as dust collectors.

I do. I thought it was pretty clear I don't like gov'ts in general.


*shrugs* "Wiped off the map" or "wiped from the pages of history" are different words but are essentially the same in concept.

 

[AnnaG]

You do mean attitude towards the West right?

I don't. I don't think Les did either. I think those sorts of Muslims view anyone with different views than they have as foul and inferior. That's probably why they are called fundies and fanatics, right?

Just how should a Nation feel about an invasion of 1,000's of foreign troops that kill more civilians than the ones they claim to be fighting?

Can you prove Canada has killed more civilians in Afghanistan than it has Taliban? If not, then quit making claims like that.

How should Iran feel when threatened with the very same action for some , as yet not completed reason?

Who has Canada mentioned invading? Have another toke or snort of glue or whatever it is you use.

No enemies, perhaps you are unaware that an enemy can also come with a smile and hand-shake your hand just before stabbing you in the back.

Phobic? Paranoid? Do you wander about expecting everyone to be your enemy? I don't nor does Les. And I think to most of the rest of the planet, Canada is either amicable or inconsequential. What would be the point in considering it an enemy under those circumstances? Have another toke or snort of glue or whatever it is you use.

 

[Goober]

EAO
Well we saw that after the crooked elections that hardliners now rule the roost -
Can an israeli attack be far off?
It is becoming apparent that Iran will not negotiate.

Iran defies world with plan for ten new nuclear sites - Times Online

From The Times
Iran has announced plans to build ten new uranium enrichment plants in a gesture of defiance to the West.

The escalation of its nuclear programme was unveiled today, two days after world powers ordered Iran to halt construction of a plant near Qom and to adhere immediately to five United Nations resolutions demanding it stop uranium enrichment.

The censure from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), with rare backing from Russia and China, provoked anger in Iran where members of parliament demanded the withdrawal of co-operation with UN inspectors.President Ahmadinejad announced tonight that his Cabinet had ordered the building of ten new plants aimed at producing up to 300 tonnes of nuclear fuel a year, with construction to begin on five within two months.Related Links
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He said that the Cabinet had also been studying plans to start enriching uranium to a higher level — high enough to be used in medical research but below that required for weapons.

Enrichment is the process by which uranium is converted into nuclear fuel to be used in energy production or in nuclear weapons. Once mastered, it is a simple procedure that repeated often enough can produce uranium enriched to 90 per cent, pure enough for weapons.

 

[ironsides]

Iran will do what they want unless someone stops them. We can argue the right or wrong of what is happening, but unless Iran itself turns around there will be war. Nobody in their right mind wants that to happen.

 

[Cliffy]

Iran will do what they want unless someone stops them. We can argue the right or wrong of what is happening, but unless Iran itself turns around there will be war. Nobody in their right mind wants that to happen.

I thought the right's trigger finger was twitching. What I find interesting is that the war mongers want to stop the Muslim world from coming into the twenty first century by denying them the technology, while justifying attacking them saying the Muslims want to drag us back into the 14th century. Do none of them see the dichotomy of this?

 

[earth_as_one]

A defiant Iran details plan for 10 enrichment plants
A defiant Iran details plan for 10 enrichment plants

 

[Colpy]

I thought the right's trigger finger was twitching. What I find interesting is that the war mongers want to stop the Muslim world from coming into the twenty first century by denying them the technology, while justifying attacking them saying the Muslims want to drag us back into the 14th century. Do none of them see the dichotomy of this?

No.

We want to prevent Tel Aviv from going up in a mushroom cloud after Hamas smuggles in a Iranian nuclear device.

Or Washington

Or London

Or Toronto......well, maybe not Toronto....lol

 

[Cliffy]

They could just as easily smuggle someone else' device. This has more to do with American ambitions in the Middle East than any real threat from Iran. This whole process of demonizing Iran is a smoke screen to justify an impending US lead invasion.

 

[Colpy]

They could just as easily smuggle someone else' device. This has more to do with American ambitions in the Middle East than any real threat from Iran. This whole process of demonizing Iran is a smoke screen to justify an impending US lead invasion.

There will be no invasion of Iran.

If there is a US invasion of Iran within 5 years I will send you $100 and an abject apology.

Fair enough?????

 

[Cliffy]

There will be no invasion of Iran.

If there is a US invasion of Iran within 5 years I will send you $100 and an abject apology.

Fair enough?????

I don't want your money. Every act of agression by the US has been precedes by this kind of demonizing propaganda. When you look at patterns of behaviour it is easy to predict an outcome with a measure of certainty. I will be very surprised if all this posturing leads nowhere.

 

[Goober]

I thought the right's trigger finger was twitching. What I find interesting is that the war mongers want to stop the Muslim world from coming into the twenty first century by denying them the technology, while justifying attacking them saying the Muslims want to drag us back into the 14th century. Do none of them see the dichotomy of this?

Clfffy

Iran does not want to negotiate - The UN has aproved multiple resolutions which have been ignored - When the US does not have approval from the UN - the US is in the wrong - when the US has approval from the UN the US is in the wrong again -
Do you not see the dichotomy at play here?

 

[Cliffy]

Clfffy

Iran does not want to negotiate - The UN has aproved multiple resolutions which have been ignored - When the US does not have approval from the UN - the US is in the wrong - when the US has approval from the UN the US is in the wrong again -
Do you not see the dichotomy at play here?

You are buying into the propaganda. Nobody, not even the so called lunatics who are running Iran can withstand the might of a western invasion. They may be crazy (or not) but I am certain they are not suicidal. Nobody who is a control freak is suicidal.

 

[Goober]

You are buying into the propaganda. Nobody, not even the so called lunatics who are running Iran can withstand the might of a western invasion. They may be crazy (or not) but I am certain they are not suicidal. Nobody who is a control freak is suicidal.

Cliffy
Go and check on your posts regarding Religion - How it has been the source of conflicts - mass murder etc - now that was hundreds of years ago - from the Spanish forward - now back up 2 or 3 centuries and that is where these boys are at - and how do you know they are not suicidal - seems to me that a lot of them have a tendency to strap on explosive vests and blow themselves along with untold innocents to shiite -

Now convince me they are sane - would a sane person -persons ruling a country keep on this path - knowing that if the do not reach an accommodation the bombs will fall -

Yesirre - they are sane all right - nice bunkers to protect most of them - while the poor Smuck gets killed - Sane all right -

We must have a differing view on sanity -

 

[jsiooa]

No.

We want to prevent Tel Aviv from going up in a mushroom cloud after Hamas smuggles in a Iranian nuclear device.

Or Washington

Or London

Or Toronto......well, maybe not Toronto....lol

Iran isn't planning on attacking Israel or any western countries. If they are developing nukes it's because of defense. And we don't know if they are developing nukes or not.

 

[Cliffy]

Cliffy
Go and check on your posts regarding Religion - How it has been the source of conflicts - mass murder etc - now that was hundreds of years ago - from the Spanish forward - now back up 2 or 3 centuries and that is where these boys are at - and how do you know they are not suicidal - seems to me that a lot of them have a tendency to strap on explosive vests and blow themselves along with untold innocents to shiite -

Now convince me they are sane - would a sane person -persons ruling a country keep on this path - knowing that if the do not reach an accommodation the bombs will fall -

Yesirre - they are sane all right - nice bunkers to protect most of them - while the poor Smuck gets killed - Sane all right -

We must have a differing view on sanity -

No. We in the west are far more civilized than those clowns in Iran. We don't strap on bombs, we would saddle up in an F16 and blow their whole country all to hell. "Strafe them creeps in the sand dunes Daddio!"