Depleted Uranium-Far Worse Than 9/11

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World is blind to real situation in Iraq: activists
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May 26, 2006

OSAKA -- An Iraqi journalist and a Japanese human rights activist said the public has a poor idea of the situation in Iraq and warned of an impending health catastrophe as more Iraqis contract cancer from exposure to depleted uranium shells used by the U.S. and Britain.

Speaking at a public gathering Thursday evening in Osaka, Isam Rasheed, a freelance journalist, and Fumikazu Nishitani, head of Osaka-based NGO Rescue the Iraqi Children, gave an update of what was going on in the Middle Eastern country.

"It is now virtually impossible for foreign journalists to move around independently in Iraq," Nishitani said.

"Most (journalists) are embedded with U.S. forces or operate from the Green Zone, a walled fortress in central Baghdad. As a result, few people in the West, or in Japan, have seen the true extent of the damage and suffering in Fallujah, while the U.S. government continues to deny responsibility for the cancer and leukemia outbreaks."

"The world has seen little of the devastation wrought by U.S. troops on the city of Fallujah," Rasheed said. "Entire neighborhoods were destroyed and the number of innocent civilians killed and maimed the bombing was quite high."

Nishitani said the situation was a "major problem for Japan" because the Japanese public does not have a clear picture of what is going on in Iraq because there are few Japanese journalists there.

During the Vietnam War, Japanese reporters went to Vietnam and showed what was really going on, according to Nishitani.

Now, there are no Japanese reporters from the mainstream media in Iraq, he said, noting they all left on orders from the Foreign Ministry.

Rasheed said many Japanese he has spoken with over the past few years know little about what is really going on and says they believe the Self-Defense Forces are providing humanitarian relief when the only news they receive about it is from the government.

"What are they doing in Iraq? The Iraqis don't know. When we heard the Japanese were coming, many Iraqis were happy because they thought this meant Japanese companies would be coming to Iraq and provide jobs and technology training," the journalist said.

"That hasn't happened, and there is a sense of bitter disappointment."

Nishitani slipped into Iraq three times, most recently earlier this month, and filed reports for the Mainichi Shimbun and other news outlets.

Rasheed, who is also a photographer, is based in Baghdad and writes for a Scottish newspaper.

The men showed two of Rasheed's films as well as photos of the November 2004 siege of Fallujah by U.S. troops.

They also showed photos of Iraqis with cancer they had interviewed. Iraqi doctors and many international experts claim much of the cancer, particularly leukemia, was caused by exposure to depleted uranium shells from U.S. and British forces that have contaminated the ground.

Rasheed told the story of one 12-year-old boy he interviewed who began playing in a field contaminated with depleted uranium at the age of 10. Shortly after he began showing signs of illness and was eventually diagnosed with leukemia.

Despite extensive evidence and a growing international consensus that the depleted uranium shells are responsible for the rise of cancer in Iraq, the United States continues to deny any connection.

Last week, the U.S. House of Representatives passed an amendment ordering a comprehensive study on the effects of exposure to depleted uranium. The study, however, will only be conducted on U.S. soldiers.

Journalists have discovered that since 2003, parts of Baghdad have radiation levels 1,900 times higher than normal.

During the first year of the war, starting in March 2003, the U.S. Army and Air Force used ammunition containing about 115 metric tons of depleted uranium.

"Nobody has any idea how many Iraqis may have developed leukemia or fallen ill (with other diseases), because of the depleted uranium shells," Nishitani said.

"It's a major health catastrophe in the making." Rasheed said.


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Re: RE: Depleted Uranium-Far Worse Than 9/11

BitWhys said:
Mogz said:
Call it what you will.

Which metal is that?

The thing is this. There is NO ARMOR that can stop a DU round. There are no counter measures as of this time for tankers who are on the business end of a DU round. The armor would have to be about 4 Feet thick and that renders a tank useless when it comes to movement.

DU is here to stay.

Pretty much in line with what I was going to post, therefore i've just been saved some time. Good post.

Being completely ignorant is no excuse. DU is toxic and is radioactive with a half life of billions of years. At least do a bit of reading on the subject.
 

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WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH HERE? ...


… PURE EVIL

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The American and British authorities, political and military, knew exactly what the consequences would be for future generations of Iraqi children from contaminating the country with depleted uranium. They knew, not least, because it has happened before.

But they don’t care, because they have no empathy. Why would a political and military establishment absolutely awash with paedophiles and Satanists (again, two expressions of lack of empathy) care about dead or suffering children in Iraq?

They couldn’t give a damn. This is why the truly evil Tony Blair could appear before the pathetic Iraq ‘inquiry’ in London and refuse even to apologise for the all the death, suffering and mayhem he was central to causing.

Even more than that, he used (was allowed to use) much of his time before the ‘inquiry’ to call for the same to be done to Iran. These people have the same relationship to decency, empathy and justice that black holes have to matter.

The bedfellow of a lack of empathy is the me, me, me mentality. The two always go together. I have known people with this combination at close hand. Their lack of empathy with others means that what is right and just does not matter to them – only what is best for them in the situation they face.


Shocking birth defects in Iraqi children – and, staggeringly, there are far, far worse than this. Some of them are beyond belief.
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Tanks and such are only useful if you also control the air. Iran has developed a hand-held device that can be used against attack choppers by messing up the electronics.
It isn't that the US can't find a substitute, this stuff is basicallt free because they already have stockpiles of the stuff. The top brass never get close nor will any of their children be close enough to be harmed by it. Useful against their own troops if it kills them after they have served their purpose.
A cutter charge on the end of a RPG will also stop a tank, you only need to break a track BTW the turret doesn't have to be off for it to be dead. A broken track makes it a sitting duck for weapons that are a lot easier to conceal than a tank. Plus you need many tanks operating as one unit for them to be effective, wandering around by yourself is aking to get shot at.
 

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Seem alot of people just hate the usa, the way there doing things but here the fact of the matter. they already had these problems with or without american with china, russia and there own weapons there. And who in teh world would walk outside when a war is going on????
 

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GI’s Brains Fried by Military Dispensed Nose Candy


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'Now it is official. Researchers have shown that uranium oxide, or DU, “travels the nerves from the nose to the brain,” in the words of a University of Chicago doc and researcher.
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The radioactive 850 rounds a minute automatic weapon is about as big as the period at the end of this sentence, never needs reloading and never jams. It’s a perfect killing machine for brain cells and other cells. The range is about 20 cells, after that there is what the famous British physicist Dr. Chris Busby calls the “bystander effect.” He discovered it, he gets to name it.'
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Last I checked Depleted Uranium was illegal. However legality doesn't mean a thing to the Americans because they are the world superpower, and have a military larger than anyone else's combined. The Americans dropped DU on Serbia during the Kosovo war in 98-99 and the Serbians are still reporting effects of DU radiation as a result. It's the same sort of situation with Agent Orange in Vietnam, and cluster bombs in countless places which have debilitating effects even years after conflict has ceased. Correct me if I'm wrong, I've forgotten the details .. there was some treaty recently between a lot of countries and of course, the Americans won't sign it. Typical.

The Americans seem to go by the motto "ends justify the means."
 

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Last I checked Depleted Uranium was illegal.

You may want to check that


However legality doesn't mean a thing to the Americans because they are the world superpower, and have a military larger than anyone else's combined.

Strike 2



The Americans dropped DU on Serbia during the Kosovo war in 98-99 and the Serbians are still reporting effects of DU radiation as a result.

"Dropped" DU. lol

It's the same sort of situation with Agent Orange in Vietnam,

No, not really.

and cluster bombs in countless places which have debilitating effects even years after conflict has ceased. Correct me if I'm wrong, I've forgotten the details .. there was some treaty recently between a lot of countries and of course, the Americans won't sign it. Typical.

Fo the most part you are wrong on pretty much everything. But you are right, we won't sign the treaty, therefore it is not illegal to the US....nor is it to Russia or China. The last time I checked rounding up civillians and slaughtering them is illegal too, like the Serbians did. Is that where you are from?

The Americans seem to go by the motto "ends justify the means."

Ahhhh... so that is where you were going with all this. Silly me.

In conclusion... DU will be used at the outset and to the conclusion of every armored engagement. As long as there are tanks on the field of battle, there will be DU rounds in abundance.
 

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You may want to check that




Strike 2





"Dropped" DU. lol



No, not really.



Fo the most part you are wrong on pretty much everything. But you are right, we won't sign the treaty, therefore it is not illegal to the US....nor is it to Russia or China. The last time I checked rounding up civillians and slaughtering them is illegal too, like the Serbians did. Is that where you are from?



Ahhhh... so that is where you were going with all this. Silly me.

In conclusion... DU will be used at the outset and to the conclusion of every armored engagement. As long as there are tanks on the field of battle, there will be DU rounds in abundance.
EagleSmack:

Okay so I was thinking of something else, it's not depleted uranium that is illegal. Forgive me, I made a mistake.

I don't know what "strike 2" is supposed to mean, this isn't baseball. Regardless, the Americans account for around 40% of global arms spending, so take from that what you will.

"Dropped" DU because NATO used DU in some of their bombing campaigns in Serbia. FYI, the bombs that were used in some instances were "dropped" from aircraft, as that is the most effective means of getting them to wherever. Or is there some better term for this, please enlighten me.

I referred to Vietnam because Agent Orange severly affected civilians, and DU severly affects civilians. Or would you disagree with this too?

And of course rounding up civilians and killing them is illegal, but do you REALLY think that the KLA didn't commit attrocities against Serbians? What a joke .. you just don't hear about it because NATO does a very good job at covering their asses and justifying Kosovos' independence. However that is getting off topic. And no I am not Serbian, that's not even relevant to this discussion.

Yes, DU is going to be used. The result of this is that you are first destroying a country by means of armed engagement, and then you are furthering your destruction by the toxic effects of DU even after this engagement is over. So you're just screwing over innocent bystanders, except instead of instant death it is long-term. And you call THEM the terrorists? Haha one of many reasons why there is so much hate for Americans around the world .. it's unfortunate.
 

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Re: DEPLETED URANIUM - FAR WORSE THAN 9/11

DU is mainly U 238

DU is what is left when almost all the U 235 has been extracted. What comes from Canada,(to our shame) is uranium ore. THe tons of this toxic material dropped on Iraq and Afghanitan will be radioactive when our sun is dead.

To Canada's shame? Mining for uranium is no more shameful than growing potatoes. As a youngster I worked in uranium mines in Bancroft and Elliot Lake. I was there right next to "uranium ore". I shovelled, I drilled into it, I blasted it and at the end of every two weeks I picked up a well-deserved paycheck for my honest work.To the best of my recollection nobody in those mining communities at the time (or even now) ever felt any shame for an honest day's work.

Should we also be ashamed and refuse to use electricity produced by the cleanest and most efficient energy source, you know, nuclear reactors, just because some politically correct people don't like uranium?

And let us not forget that to win a war one must use ALL available resource. If DU is available it should be used not less but more.
 

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Our armed forces (and presumably the American armed forces) do not consist of a bunch of petros's who WOULD shoot their own, at least according to the post of the one petros who pollutes this forum.
 

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Our armed forces (and presumably the American armed forces) do not consist of a bunch of petros's who WOULD shoot their own, at least according to the post of the one petros who pollutes this forum.
Duh! Do you have any idea of the percentages of our troupes that are killed by "friendly fire"? I have heard as high as 50%. Now that you admit to having worked in uranium mines we now know the reason why you are such a hard nosed republican.
 

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You really have good sources, 50% killed from friendly fire. No wonder you want out. Bet those sources were behind the pig fat being spread on cartridges during the wars in India also. :-(
 

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Duh! Do you have any idea of the percentages of our troupes that are killed by "friendly fire"? I have heard as high as 50%. Now that you admit to having worked in uranium mines we now know the reason why you are such a hard nosed republican.

Salon.com is an anti-Republican, anti-war publication.

Here are their figures on friendly fire:

Is the Army lying about friendly fire deaths? - Iraq war - Salon.com

I will resist making a snide remark, similar to the one you made.
 

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EagleSmack:

Okay so I was thinking of something else, it's not depleted uranium that is illegal. Forgive me, I made a mistake.

No problem Sven. You are forgiven.

I don't know what "strike 2" is supposed to mean, this isn't baseball. Regardless, the Americans account for around 40% of global arms spending, so take from that what you will.

I'll have to check on that. You may be right.

"Dropped" DU because NATO used DU in some of their bombing campaigns in Serbia. FYI, the bombs that were used in some instances were "dropped" from aircraft, as that is the most effective means of getting them to wherever. Or is there some better term for this, please enlighten me.

DU is primarily used for knocking out tanks and armored vehicles. So if there were Serbian tanks around I am sure DU missles were used on them. As far as using them on bridges, power plants, etc., DU was not likely used.

I referred to Vietnam because Agent Orange severly affected civilians, and DU severly affects civilians. Or would you disagree with this too?

No I agree that civillians were affected by the defoliant.

And of course rounding up civilians and killing them is illegal, but do you REALLY think that the KLA didn't commit attrocities against Serbians? What a joke .. you just don't hear about it because NATO does a very good job at covering their asses and justifying Kosovos' independence. However that is getting off topic.

Both parties were guilty of atrocities. However, it was the Serbians that outdid everyone when it came to the mass killing of civillians. That is why they got bombed as bad as they did.

And no I am not Serbian, that's not even relevant to this discussion.

I was just curious and if you were Serbian it would have been very relevant.

Yes, DU is going to be used. The result of this is that you are first destroying a country by means of armed engagement, and then you are furthering your destruction by the toxic effects of DU even after this engagement is over. So you're just screwing over innocent bystanders, except instead of instant death it is long-term. And you call THEM the terrorists?

So you say but except for tankers getting hit in tanks...DU is not as bad as it is portrayed. They use DU in ballast for ships and planes. Where is the outrage?

Haha one of many reasons why there is so much hate for Americans around the world .. it's unfortunate.

Unfortunate... yet you laugh? You don't really sound so sympathetic. At any rate... all that keeps us warm at night.
 

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IEDs made from duds is how they fight back in Iraq/A-Stan..

DU IEDs must make for a dilly of a pickle. If a crew of a hummer on patrol gets lucky and the IED doesn't cause damage, is it still a "score" for the Taliban when the crew dies 2 years later from leukemia or lymphoma?