Deadly US "interventions" World wide
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That's not even remotely relevant DaS.
It does nothing to paint Americans as violent warmongers, the lot of them.
Here's the real reason why those wars will not be stopped:
Lobby For War, Profit From War, Lather Rinse Repeat - Home - The Daily Bail
Lobby For War, Profit From War, Lather Rinse Repeat - Home - The Daily Bail
that might be the case, but does NOT diminish the number of PEOPLE they have slaughtered in their many wars. How many lives they have destroyed.
In its short history the US has been at war or in a war or planning a war almost continuously ......except for a few years here and there.
and THAT is quite a record for a what is essentially a very young nation.
War is profit for a select few. and those few don't include the american people, the people of the nations that are being invaded and occupied as wars are also based on LIES. & propaganda that is enough to embarrass the most hardened politician.
Let's travel back in time and see what the US war history is .
(and let's not go into the "justifications"...... as mostly those are excuses, and propaganda while other motives are at play)
America's Wars - A Complete History of all of the Wars the United Sates has Fought
America is addicted to war. the collective mentality is of a militant nature. They make heros of young men and women who are sent to be killed......on an elective basis.
WAR is NOT PEACE.........and only the mentally convoluted would disagree.
After Months of Pushing for ‘Request’ White House Will ‘Consider’ Staying in Iraq
As Attacks Continue to Grow, Spokesman Says Still Waiting for Iraqi Request
by Jason Ditz, August 15, 2011
Pretending as usual with that months of haranguing the Maliki government into allowing US troops to remain didn’t happen, the White House today insisted that it would “certainly consider” any “requests” by the Iraqi leadership to keep troops in the nation
After Months of Pushing for ‘Request’ White House Will ‘Consider’ Staying in Iraq -- News from Antiwar.com
gee, what a surprise ( sarcasm alert)..........who woulda thunk it?? Actually, it is surprising that Iraq has not been given its own zip code.by now. Or would that be too obvious??
The U.S. sends aid all over the world, no exceptions to everyone needing it after a disaster. How many lives would you have lost do to your "we should not get involved look the other way philosophy" if you were in charge. Those two factions are slaughtering each other, lets just sit back and send aid to the survivors.
Just looking at the world from your eyes. You hate the U.S. and that is to bad.
This actually gets the haters more upset then us being at war. They went bananas after the Haiti Earthquake.
Your OCD aside, my guess is you've never seen Ikes farewell speech.
A bit?
your "we should not get involved look the other way philosophy"
In your world where nothing exists except black and white........it is no wonder that follks like you are not able to conceptualize on a broader level. Making assumptions about a posters philosophy on a public forum is arrogant , presumptive and irrelavent.
What does sending aid to areas it is needed got to do with elective wars and the horrors they create?? In your mind.....just because the US has been very helpful in many situations, disasters in the past..... it absolves all the BAD they ;have done. NOT TRUE. All it does is create an illusion about what the US has become.
In fact the "aid to others " line is stale. The US is BROKE. Get it?? It cannot afford what it has charged in the massive debts as they stand today. It has over extended itself. to the point that sending aid from borrowed funds, when there is a major financial crisis happening......is foolish.
Furthermore........sending aid is not always the best option anyhow. Sending teachers and other skilled personnel to the places in question in order to show different and better ways to do things along with some realistic aid.to deal with the immediate crisis Sending too much aid only creates a dependancy on the one giving the aid ....instead of creating an atmosphere where they learn the skillls to be INDEPENDANT which by itself is a maturing process.
It is hard to comprehend what kind of mentality exists behind comments lik e "hating the US" as if that was even relavant. But that is how many
"think"........if you can call it thinking. To them one either worships the US ( which is plain stupid ) or hates it. There is no RATIONAL middle where one can be critical of the many aspects that DESERVE criticism;. and yet recognize the value and positives of the nation without sounding like a blathering idiotic brainwashed "partriot".
We have seen what extreme patriotism has done in the history of some nations . This is happening in the flag waving US where true analysis and THINKING through the many issues that exist.has virtually been aborted. On the positive side......there is an awakening occuring. Many individuals are coming to a realization of where things are and even how they got that way. The problem lies in the masses. The collective thinking/ beliefs still continue to follow the dogma that has been instilled since birth.
The counterpoint to the "hate the US".........of course is : loving the militant, war loving, gun loving , over aggressive , my way or the highway , greed is good, war is profit , power is good, MORE power is exhilarating and addictive and cannot have enough, being poor is bad, being a democrat is being weak., lording (bullying) it over other nations that are struggling at best......and on it goes.
so before uttering stupid comments like 'hating' the US........evaluate what it is you support so BLINDLY.....and be sure it is not the Kool aid that the US population has overdosed on.
Now......if folks want to discuss general attitudes to the US or other natons....(even Iran ) in a reasonable manner......let's do it. But making narrow minded assumptions from select articles one presents here...........as opposed to discussing the articles , thoughts themselves......is counter productive .
In your world where nothing exists except black and white........it is no wonder that follks like you are not able to conceptualize on a broader level. Making assumptions about a posters philosophy on a public forum is arrogant , presumptive and irrelavent.
What does sending aid to areas it is needed got to do with elective wars and the horrors they create?? In your mind.....just because the US has been very helpful in many situations, disasters in the past..... it absolves all the BAD they ;have done. NOT TRUE. All it does is create an illusion about what the US has become.
In fact the "aid to others " line is stale. The US is BROKE. Get it?? It cannot afford what it has charged in the massive debts as they stand today. It has over extended itself. to the point that sending aid from borrowed funds, when there is a major financial crisis happening......is foolish.
Furthermore........sending aid is not always the best option anyhow. Sending teachers and other skilled personnel to the places in question in order to show different and better ways to do things along with some realistic aid.to deal with the immediate crisis Sending too much aid only creates a dependancy on the one giving the aid ....instead of creating an atmosphere where they learn the skillls to be INDEPENDANT which by itself is a maturing process.
It is hard to comprehend what kind of mentality exists behind comments lik e "hating the US" as if that was even relavant. But that is how many
"think"........if you can call it thinking. To them one either worships the US ( which is plain stupid ) or hates it. There is no RATIONAL middle where one can be critical of the many aspects that DESERVE criticism;. and yet recognize the value and positives of the nation without sounding like a blathering idiotic brainwashed "partriot".
We have seen what extreme patriotism has done in the history of some nations . This is happening in the flag waving US where true analysis and THINKING through the many issues that exist.has virtually been aborted. On the positive side......there is an awakening occuring. Many individuals are coming to a realization of where things are and even how they got that way. The problem lies in the masses. The collective thinking/ beliefs still continue to follow the dogma that has been instilled since birth.
The counterpoint to the "hate the US".........of course is : loving the militant, war loving, gun loving , over aggressive , my way or the highway , greed is good, war is profit , power is good, MORE power is exhilarating and addictive and cannot have enough, being poor is bad, being a democrat is being weak., lording (bullying) it over other nations that are struggling at best......and on it goes.
so before uttering stupid comments like 'hating' the US........evaluate what it is you support so BLINDLY.....and be sure it is not the Kool aid that the US population has overdosed on.
Now......if folks want to discuss general attitudes to the US or other natons....(even Iran ) in a reasonable manner......let's do it. But making narrow minded assumptions from select articles one presents here...........as opposed to discussing the articles , thoughts themselves......is counter productive .
What gives you the impression that the U.S. is randomly picking and choosing who to bomb without consulting others. I am all in favor of leaving Yemen to their own destiny. Just blockade them and let them destroy themselves faster. No one has to get hurt except them.
$360M lost to insurgents, criminals in Afghanistan
$360M lost to insurgents, criminals in Afghanistan - Yahoo! News
A tragic loss of so much money . Makes one wonder about those sending these funds , how they are distributed and IF there is any accountability for where the money goes....especially when the US is in such massive debt with a down graded credit rating.
Makes one pause.
$360M lost to insurgents, criminals in Afghanistan - Yahoo! News
A tragic loss of so much money . Makes one wonder about those sending these funds , how they are distributed and IF there is any accountability for where the money goes....especially when the US is in such massive debt with a down graded credit rating.
Makes one pause.
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Not always, but steel does weaken when heated, and will collapse under load.
Speaking of arrogant, presumptive and irrelevant. people like me conceptualize on a much broader scale than you, because we can understand foreign policy, industry and general populace, as different entities.
Then why do you do it?
Nothing, it's just to counter and disprove your ignorant generalizations, with some actual hard facts, not theory and Op/Ed.
Not at all. Can you show me where I said that?
There's that hate.
And more...
Now that's great spin, damned if they do, damned if they don't.
You're funny.
They do that too.
Those damned yankees eh!!!
The fact that I'm sure you find a lot hard to comprehend, it relevant when you keep spread hate propaganda.
I know you aren't alone as an anti American. And no, I don't feel it's appropriate to call it 'thinking' at all.
There you go with that constrained narrow thinking (for lack of a better term)
The funny thing is, I've only said "US foreign policy has much to be maligned for, there is no need to make it up" to you at least a dozen times.
But sadly, your narrow mind just can't get past the part where i disagree with your bigoted generalizations, lie and myths.
You still haven't learned the difference between patriotism and nationalism I see.
There you go with the generalizations again.
Then the lies...
More lies...
And then the myth.
You aren't capable of being reasonable. Which is why you ignore the many times I've stated that I don't believe the US is innocent, to be praised without question.
If you were reasonable, you wouldn't operate on generalizations, and actually acknowledge middle ground, when presented.
If you know it's counterproductive, why do you do it?
Picking and choosing who one "intervenes" with and who one leaves to their own devices.........sounds like abuse of power and politics.
Of course the US does not choose "randomly". Iraq was DELIBERATE. PREMEDITADED. and ILLEGAL.......and only a select few were involved in the planning discussions. The select few being in favor of course.......or had been skillfully manipulated by the bush goons.
Of course there are "discussions". But the motivation and thrust is by the most war loving nation on the planet. Deciding who to bomb / ie kill, slaughter, maim and otherwise ruin for life must give the "deciders" such a god like feeling of power ..
You forgot the Germans.
How are you on the net?
I mean here you are living off the proceeds of those selective interventions and all.