COVID-19 'Pandemic'

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Blackleaf

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Denial is Blackie's state of constant existence.
He doesn't even understand why deaths that are labeled due to Covid 19 are labeled as such, and it's not really a complicated thing to understand.

You're the one who doesn't understand.
 

Serryah

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You're the one who doesn't understand.


And what don't I understand, Blackie?

Herd Immunity doesn't work?


Social Distancing or Physical distancing is seen to be the best option we have because the further apart people are, the less likely they are to get infected from someone with Covid 19 whether they are asymptomatic or not?


That there are likely many, many people who are asymptomatic but we don't know for sure because for some reason Governments don't want to 'waste time' testing people who may seem 'healthy'?


Being asymptomatic is the biggest issue (IMO) of this whole ordeal?


People who get Covid 19 die even if they're healthy?


People with immune suppressed, compromised or otherwise inhibited systems are at risk because they're immune system isn't as good to hold up against Covid 19?

Those same people if they get sick have a higher chance of death because of the complications that come of catching Covid 19?


That the respiratory infection and pneumonia you get is of Covid 19 origin?


That even those who get better from Covid now have scarred lung sacs which makes them a little less able to handle respiratory illnesses in the future?


That a person may not get all the known symptoms of Covid 19 but rather they may be varied?


What part don't I get, Blackie? Explain to me where I don't get it?
 

NZDoug

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Over your head, guys, apologoes
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New Zealand only embraced the elimination strategy in mid-March. Up until then, the country was taking a similar approach to Australia. Both countries were following their pandemic plans, which were based on managing influenza pandemics. Both were applying increasing border restrictions to “keep it out”, with controls increased after 15 March to require 14-day periods of self-isolation for all arrivals. Familiar methods of case isolation, contact tracing and quarantine to stamp out cases were also being used.
Elimination strategy
But then the countries diverged. On 23 March New Zealand committed to an elimination strategy. Both countries had relatively low case numbers at that time: New Zealand had reported 102 cases and no deaths and Australia had reported 1396 cases and 10 deaths. On that day the prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, announced that New Zealand was going to rapidly escalate levels of physical distancing and travel restrictions, reaching the level of a full national lockdown on 26 March (level four on the alert scale).
More
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ands-coronavirus-response-can-teach-the-world
more'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ6hkkMle1Q&list=RDMMyZ6hkkMle1Q&start_radio=1
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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We hit half a million confirmed cases!

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! We're number one! We're number one! MAGA!

We'll end the lockdown and be at a million in no time!
 

Blackleaf

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And what don't I understand, Blackie?
Herd Immunity doesn't work?

Herd immunity may need to be reconsidered to combat the coronavirus outbreak in the UK, a senior adviser to the Prime Minister warned.

Professor Graham Medley said the prolonged lockdown could cause more harm than the disease with a huge impact on unemployment, domestic violence and mental illness, the Mirror reported.

The Government’s chief pandemic modeller, from Imperial College London, said the country needed to face "the trade-off between harming the young versus the old."

He urged the Government to reconsider allowing people to catch the flu-like virus during herd immunity and build up resistance among the population.

Speaking to the Times, Professor Medley said: “We will have done three weeks of this lockdown so there’s a big decision coming up on April 13.

"In broad terms are we going to continue to harm children to protect vulnerable people, or not?

“The measures to control [the disease] cause harm. The principal one is economic, and I don’t mean to the economy generally, I mean to the incomes of people who rely on a continuous stream of money and their children.”

“If we carry on with lockdown it buys us more time, we can get more thought put into it, but it doesn’t resolve anything — it’s a placeholder,” he added.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bi...immunity-combat-coronavirus-need-18043701.amp

Social Distancing or Physical distancing is seen to be the best option we have because the further apart people are, the less likely they are to get infected from someone with Covid 19 whether they are asymptomatic or not?
That there are likely many, many people who are asymptomatic but we don't know for sure because for some reason Governments don't want to 'waste time' testing people who may seem 'healthy'?
Being asymptomatic is the biggest issue (IMO) of this whole ordeal?
People who get Covid 19 die even if they're healthy?
People with immune suppressed, compromised or otherwise inhibited systems are at risk because they're immune system isn't as good to hold up against Covid 19?
Those same people if they get sick have a higher chance of death because of the complications that come of catching Covid 19?
That the respiratory infection and pneumonia you get is of Covid 19 origin?
That even those who get better from Covid now have scarred lung sacs which makes them a little less able to handle respiratory illnesses in the future?
That a person may not get all the known symptoms of Covid 19 but rather they may be varied?

Lockdown isn't working. Not only is it taking away out civil liberties and destroying our economies but it'll likely kill more people than coronavirus.

So your preferred method to combat coronavirus is one that'll kill even more people as well as ruining the economy and putting millions of children on the scrapheap through having no education.

Yeah, genius.

We need to end the lockdown now and introduce herd immunity.

What part don't I get, Blackie? Explain to me where I don't get it?

All of it.
 

pgs

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But you're not a doctor so...


You can have COPD for years and not die of it. What causes the death is the Covid 19 you catch that ravages your already hampered respiratory system. So Preliminary cause of death is Covid 19, secondary is COPD because it was the underlying issue.




And now people are getting reinfected with Covid, so the whole "Herd Immunity" that BoJo and others hoped for proves to be not so great an idea.
But your not a doctor , So .
 

Serryah

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Herd immunity may need to be reconsidered to combat the coronavirus outbreak in the UK, a senior adviser to the Prime Minister warned.

Professor Graham Medley said the prolonged lockdown could cause more harm than the disease with a huge impact on unemployment, domestic violence and mental illness, the Mirror reported.

The Government’s chief pandemic modeller, from Imperial College London, said the country needed to face "the trade-off between harming the young versus the old."

He urged the Government to reconsider allowing people to catch the flu-like virus during herd immunity and build up resistance among the population.

Speaking to the Times, Professor Medley said: “We will have done three weeks of this lockdown so there’s a big decision coming up on April 13.

"In broad terms are we going to continue to harm children to protect vulnerable people, or not?

“The measures to control [the disease] cause harm. The principal one is economic, and I don’t mean to the economy generally, I mean to the incomes of people who rely on a continuous stream of money and their children.”

“If we carry on with lockdown it buys us more time, we can get more thought put into it, but it doesn’t resolve anything — it’s a placeholder,” he added.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/uk-news/herd-immunity-combat-coronavirus-need-18043701.amp

So before I go and post links explaining why Herd Immunity won't work, and it's starting to show it hasn't worked in places where infections were thought over... will you bother looking at the links?




Lockdown isn't working.


Actually, it is, just not 'fast enough' for most people.


Not only is it taking away out civil liberties and destroying our economies but it'll likely kill more people than coronavirus.


No proof of it killing more people than the virus in places where they've had it longer than the UK. As for taking away civil liberties, you can still do whatever you want. However you are also subject to the consequences of those things and in a state of emergency due to health concerns, there are guidelines in place in your country that if you break them, you're fined, etc.


As for destroying economies, blame the virus, not the lockdown, cause you damn well would have had a crash if people started dying and overwhelming the health system sooner rather than later.


So your preferred method to combat coronavirus is one that'll kill even more people as well as ruining the economy and putting millions of children on the scrapheap through having no education.


Answered these already, including the education of kids. Not my fault you're obviously too ignorant to read and understand.


Yeah, genius.


Compared to you, most people are.


We need to end the lockdown now and introduce herd immunity.


See above about your herd immunity obsession.



All of it.


Yep, I see that you don't get all of it.
 

Blackleaf

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What a load of crap.

Someone who thinks they know better than the experts.
 

captain morgan

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In the same four months about 20,000,000, that's 20 million, people have died worldwide. The sky is still falling.


A touch of perspective normally goes a long way.... Not so much on this issue though


Can we expect your pants-pissing terror of a seventeen-year-old Swedish girl in every thread, regardless of relevance or lack of same?


Pants-pissing?


Greta is the best comic relief that we've had in decades.


I'm especially fond of the tantrum thingy, it really adds force to her already comedic performance



But you're not a doctor so...

You can have COPD for years and not die of it. What causes the death is the Covid 19 you catch that ravages your already hampered respiratory system. So Preliminary cause of death is Covid 19, secondary is COPD because it was the underlying issue.

And now people are getting reinfected with Covid, so the whole "Herd Immunity" that BoJo and others hoped for proves to be not so great an idea.


You don't die (as in cause of the actual death) from covid-19 just like you don't die from hiv/aids.


it's the complications that are the actual cause of death
 

JLM

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Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

A touch of perspective normally goes a long way.... Not so much on this issue though





Pants-pissing?


Greta is the best comic relief that we've had in decades.


I'm especially fond of the tantrum thingy, it really adds force to her already comedic performance






You don't die (as in cause of the actual death) from covid-19 just like you don't die from hiv/aids.


it's the complications that are the actual cause of death


If only poor naïve Greta could see how she comes across to normal well adjusted people, she'd quit acting like such an idiot!