COVID-19 'Pandemic'

JLM

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We hit half a million confirmed cases!

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! We're number one! We're number one! MAGA!

We'll end the lockdown and be at a million in no time!


It was just reported on C.B.C. 5 minutes ago that the U.S. may have just passed the peak as new infections have started to decline. (The deaths reported are the result of previous infections)
 

captain morgan

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If that offends you, cupcake, we'll change it to "obsessive," mmm-kay?

Leastways enough to compel you to inject it into threads to which it's totally irrelevant.


Hilarious is hilarious bud... There's no arguing that


If only poor naïve Greta could see how she comes across to normal well adjusted people, she'd quit acting like such an idiot!


Well said, unfortunately she's been programmed to attribute all the ills of the world onto her little hobby-horse... A kitten got stuck in a tree?... No doubt caused by global warming - or whatever other phrase that the marketing experts decide is the new catechism
 

Avro52

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It’s working, folks, yesterday’s national growth rate in cases, at 6.7 per cent, was the slowest for any day since February, when the outbreak first began to accelerate in Canada?

 

Avro52

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If only poor naïve Greta could see how she comes across to normal well adjusted people, she'd quit acting like such an idiot!

She has Asperger's syndrome you know.

Are you like Captain Morgan and laugh at other peoples afflictions especially those of a child?
 

captain morgan

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You poor wee lamb.


In the end, Greta is fully aware of her personal issues, as are her parents and handlers.

If they all choose to stand in the spotlight, as well as advertise her condition(s) (her parents announced publicly that she was depressive before she found activism), then tough sh*t for her


Besides, Asperger's is not an excuse for a 17 year old that has ZERO to offer other than throwing tantrums


 

pgs

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It’s working, folks, yesterday’s national growth rate in cases, at 6.7 per cent, was the slowest for any day since February, when the outbreak first began to accelerate in Canada?

And it has been dropping steadily since March 25 . Head for the hills .
 

Avro52

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More incoherent ramblings. The only thing he is concerned about is the economy..........as he believes he is gods' gift to the economy.
He is a BS artist. He is master of the schmooze. No depth or substance.......or very little.

This is Trump

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

-Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
-Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
-Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
-Exaggerate achievements and talents
-Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
-Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
-Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
-Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
-Take advantage of others to get what they want
-Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
-Be envious of others and believe others envy them
-Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
-Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
 

Avro52

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You poor wee lamb.
In the end, Greta is fully aware of her personal issues, as are her parents and handlers.
If they all choose to stand in the spotlight, as well as advertise her condition(s) (her parents announced publicly that she was depressive before she found activism), then tough sh*t for her
Besides, Asperger's is not an excuse for a 17 year old that has ZERO to offer other than throwing tantrums

I was asking JLM. I already know what you're capable of.
 

JLM

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She has Asperger's syndrome you know.

Are you like Captain Morgan and laugh at other peoples afflictions especially those of a child?


I don't think the Capt. and I laugh at other people's afflictions. Speaking for myself, I lose patience with people who continually think social issues are all about them 24/7 and they have all the knowledge necessary to fix the world and totally ignore any evidence indicating perhaps they should adjust their focus a tad. The smartest 17 year old kid in the world doesn't know everything. If she was REALLY smart, she'd set the social issues aside while addressing her Asperger's first and then readdress the other matters with a sane mind. You, yourself perhaps could use an adjustment too, so you are not jumping to ridiculous conclusions about the Cap't. and me. :)
 

Blackleaf

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British and American governments are warning that the people of both countries might have to live with some restrictions until, or if, a vaccine is developed.

Considering that it usually takes years to develop a vaccine, that could mean years of restrictions to our daily lives. There's no way the people are going to stand for that.

And then if a vaccine is developed, will it be compulsory to have it? And what will they be injecting us WITH?
 

Twin_Moose

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The latest numbers on COVID-19 in Canada

The latest numbers of confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases in Canada as of 4:00 a.m. on April 11, 2020:
There are 22,148 confirmed and presumptive cases in Canada.
_ Quebec: 11,677 confirmed (including 241 deaths, 1,341 resolved)
_ Ontario: 6,237 confirmed (including 222 deaths, 2,574 resolved)
_ Alberta: 1,500 confirmed (including 39 deaths, 713 resolved)
_ British Columbia: 1,410 confirmed (including 55 deaths, 879 resolved)
_ Nova Scotia: 407 confirmed (including 2 deaths, 93 resolved)
_ Saskatchewan: 284 confirmed (including 3 deaths, 136 resolved), 1 presumptive
_ Newfoundland and Labrador: 239 confirmed (including 3 deaths, 103 resolved)
_ Manitoba: 215 confirmed (including 4 deaths, 92 resolved), 15 presumptive
_ New Brunswick: 112 confirmed (including 60 resolved)
_ Prince Edward Island: 25 confirmed (including 17 resolved)
_ Repatriated Canadians: 13 confirmed
_ Yukon: 8 confirmed (including 4 resolved)
_ Northwest Territories: 5 confirmed (including 1 resolved)
_ Nunavut: No confirmed cases
_ Total: 22,148 (16 presumptive, 22,132 confirmed including 569 deaths, 6,013 resolved)
 

Twin_Moose

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Canada looking to prepare 'surge' force, use cellphone data to contain COVID-19

OTTAWA — Federal and provincial health officials are recruiting small armies of staff and examining technology options such as cell phone location data as they ramp up Canada’s capacity to do contact tracing.
Contact tracing involves searching out recent contacts of anyone who’s tested positive for COVID-19, and monitoring those contacts for symptoms and the potential need for testing and self-isolating. It’s key to stopping an uncontrolled outbreak in a community.

Canada is still in its “first wave” of infections, and officials have said the best course of action for now is to have everyone stay home. But once the first wave fully subsides — likely sometime in the summer — extensive testing and contact tracing should allow Canada to start re-opening its economy and lift some of the physical-distancing restrictions.

“As we get this first wave under control, the absolute key is having sensitive systems to detect any new cases and then to do rigorous contact tracing around those cases,” said Theresa Tam, Canada’s chief public health officer, on Friday.

Tam said provincial health agencies are responsible for their own contact-tracing programs, but the federal government is coordinating support measures.

A huge challenge is simply having the staff resources to do all the phone calls and follow-up monitoring. Provinces have been doing callouts to medical students and retired health-care workers, but the federal government is also pulling together a national database for provinces to tap into.
The Public Health Agency of Canada said this includes assigning some federal civil servants to help provinces who need the extra staff.
“The first stage was to enlist qualified federal public servants, who are currently not in roles essential to ongoing federal work, to work in those jurisdictions feeling the most pressure,” said a statement to the National Post.
The second stage includes a volunteer recruitment campaign and “reaching out to faculties of health, public health, and science across the country to disseminate a call for interested individuals to register in the inventory,” the statement said. “A third stage will reach out to all health professional and health science associations for retirees or individuals currently not engaged in the COVID-19 response.”
Tam said they are working on a “surge” capacity of staff that can be deployed when a region sees a new outbreak. “We’ve been monitoring and forecasting so if there’s increasing cases, which then means increasing contacts, we’re there to support the surge if needed,” Tam said.
Technology will also play an increasingly important role in contact tracing, but Canadian health officials are still deliberating over the best course of action. Cell phone location data is central to this discussion, and has been put to use in other countries such as Singapore , but it also raises thorny questions about privacy.
“I think that is an area of great interest to every jurisdiction,” Tam said. “There are many, many innovators with lots of different ideas, so we are pulling together a group among the provinces and territories to gauge interest.”
She said that along with contact tracing, technology could be used to send reminder alerts about how to properly self-isolate.


“We need to look at each of those innovations in particular as it pertains to things like privacy,” she said.
An example of the type of sweeping technology power that could be put to use was announced on Friday by Apple and Google, the respective makers of iPhone and Android operating systems.
“Google and Apple are announcing a joint effort to enable the use of Bluetooth technology to help governments and health agencies reduce the spread of the virus, with user privacy and security central to the design,” said a statement from the companies.

The technology would eventually allow users to opt-in to be notified if they’ve crossed paths with someone who’s tested positive for COVID-19. “Privacy, transparency, and consent are of utmost importance in this effort, and we look forward to building this functionality in consultation with interested stakeholders,” the companies said.
There has already been an ongoing debate in Canada as privacy and civil liberties advocates debate what measures may be necessary, and how to judge when a line has been crossed.
“We’re sometimes inclined to think of the word ‘surveillance’ as always bad, but of course it is not,” said a recent post by Brenda McPhail at the Canadian Civil Liberties Association . But she said the use of digital data to fight COVID-19 must still be “proportionate and minimally intrusive for the humans whose health is at the core of the data collection efforts — even if the proportionality analysis may look a little different during a pandemic.”
Michael Geist, a digital privacy expert at the University of Ottawa, said in a recent post on his website that “all measures can and should be considered in response to the global pandemic,” but policy-makers must ensure there are safeguards including strict limits on data retention and clear limitations on use.
“Perhaps most importantly, these powers must be temporary in nature, requiring parliamentary approval for short term use and regular renewals as events warrant,” he wrote.
 

Serryah

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You don't die (as in cause of the actual death) from covid-19 just like you don't die from hiv/aids.


it's the complications that are the actual cause of death


Yes but in the end when they total the stats for something like this, the doctors look at the person before contracting Covid, and then what happens to them after. If they survive, it's a recovery, if they die, then it's a death due to that, because if Covid did not affect them, they would still live.


It's the same if the usual/'common' flu were to hit someone; if they die they died of 'the flu' even if they have, in your example, HIV/AIDS. The flu was the main cause; the secondary was the HIV/AIDS disease destroying the immune system.
 

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British and American governments are warning that the people of both countries might have to live with some restrictions until, or if, a vaccine is developed.
Considering that it usually takes years to develop a vaccine, that could mean years of restrictions to our daily lives. There's no way the people are going to stand for that.
And then if a vaccine is developed, will it be compulsory to have it? And what will they be injecting us WITH?
There is no vaccine for HIV, the tetanus vaccine has never been clinically tested, an ulcer used to be thought of as caused by stress. How has mankind managed to survive?
 

Blackleaf

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There is no vaccine for HIV, the tetanus vaccine has never been clinically tested, an ulcer used to be thought of as caused by stress. How has mankind managed to survive?

Well that's it.

There's a flu vaccine but flu is still with us.
 

captain morgan

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I was asking JLM. I already know what you're capable of.

I hope that I didn't hurt your little feelers. but as you are sooo magnamimous, why not send Greta your life savings in order to fight the good fight and save the planet from assured destruction?

Yeah, I thought not - just another mouth breather that is all talk and no action (or actual solution).

Yes but in the end when they total the stats for something like this, the doctors look at the person before contracting Covid, and then what happens to them after. If they survive, it's a recovery, if they die, then it's a death due to that, because if Covid did not affect them, they would still live.


It's the same if the usual/'common' flu were to hit someone; if they die they died of 'the flu' even if they have, in your example, HIV/AIDS. The flu was the main cause; the secondary was the HIV/AIDS disease destroying the immune system.

Agreed.

That said, perspective is still missing in this issue. Canada has under 1000 covid related deaths - why aren't the gvt and media comparing this to the avg deaths related to the known influenza bugs?.. Have they applied the same rigor in this situation related to influenza testing/deaths in previous years?

I don't know the answers but the lack of relativity makes this situation incomprehensible
 

JLM

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, because if Covid did not affect them, they would still live.


I'll give you 75%. Yep, in many cases for a week or two, in a few cases for a year or two. After age 80 death can happen at any time without much warning.
 

Walter

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Yeah, but the flu has never killed 100,000 people in two months!
Spanish flu, Asian flu, H1N1, and Hong Kong flu have all achieved that claim to fame and I am sure there are many others.