Consevative Party leadership contest

Curious Cdn

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Well, they shuffled the deck and came up with a new hand. This is a reasonable direction to take the party.
An ex-speaker of the house can span his party beyond the "very right" into the center, where most of the Canadian voters reside. He's a good, young counter to our young Liberal Prime Minister.

The future.

I like it.
 

JLM

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Just from the little I saw of him on the Idiot Box tonight, I think he's probably head and shoulders over what we have.
 

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I watched the speeches last night after largely ignoring the race for the last year.

By far the most impressive was Pierre Lemieux who has gone against the current and stood for traditional values, real marriage, sanctity of life from conception to natural death. He is a fluid and convincing orator who presents an integrated political vision. Brad Trost was also impressive in not capitulating to the post moral zeitgeist.

Alexander Saxton has some innovative ideas consistent with economic nationalism and Steven Blaney some that are consistent with cultural nationalism. Everyone else with the exception of Kellie Lietch was promoting some form of NEO Conservatism.

In essence, that means Free Markets and Trade, globalism and open borders, regressive taxation, government deconstruction, and, paying the most shallow lip service to Social Conservatism. Just enough to hold the demographic but with no intent of implementing any concrete policy.

What is an afterthought and expediency for the majority of the candidates is the most critical issue facing the country. Canada is in the clutches of the talons of the Culture of Death and without a sustainable moral coherence everything else, economically and socially, will fall apart. We are are facing national disintegration.

The worst of the lot is Maxine Bernier, who is expected to win, and his closest contender Andrew Scheer. These are both Stephen Harper CLONES; shills of supranational banks, corporations and agencies. Bernier seems like a major flake. Scheer a conventional Neocon, molded by the corporate Old Boys of the Conservative back rooms.

Neither of these guy has a strong enough independent identity to take advantage of the populist and nationalist rebellions that are rocking the West. Which means they might be surprised by some upstart movement that represent TRUE conservatism rather than the economic LIBERALISM and social LIBERTARIANISM that comprises NeoConservatism.

DReaders digest version: You want a theocracy.
 

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Just from the little I saw of him on the Idiot Box tonight, I think he's probably head and shoulders over what we have.


Actually he seems to be exactly what we have. As I listened to the excerpt from his speech on the CBC I was wondering why is it that the Conservatives are still peddling the same old failed ideals and BS rhetoric. Scheer seems pretty much a lightweight and I have little doubt we'll be seeing another Conservative leadership convention in a few years as the Cons look for someone to replace him.
 

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Actually he seems to be exactly what we have. As I listened to the excerpt from his speech on the CBC I was wondering why is it that the Conservatives are still peddling the same old failed ideals and BS rhetoric. Scheer seems pretty much a lightweight and I have little doubt we'll be seeing another Conservative leadership convention in a few years as the Cons look for someone to replace him.


He seemed fairly positive and up beat to me, but then don't they all to start out, so we'll just have to wait and see- meanwhile I'll remain positive until things change. :)

Why didn't you take a screen shot of his policies?

Sheer was my third choice. First was Leitch and second was Trost.


I got the feeling Leitch is a little too connected to religion for my liking! Bible Thumpers are bad enough in church, don't need them in politics! :)
 

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I'm sure there will be lots of opportunities to pick at policy in the coming months,

Scheer wants to have a policy meeting with the others to plan the road ahead.
 

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I'm sure there will be lots of opportunities to pick at policy in the coming months,

Scheer wants to have a policy meeting with the others to plan the road ahead.

He'll have to beat back the Evangelicals, Libertarians and Alt-Reich Republican wannabees and built a platform that is acceptible to and electable by Canadians and not made for jerkwater Americans.
 

JLM

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Leitch has to lay low for a while and reflect on her method.

Glad it's over.


I kind of liked her, but can see she possibly has a "rough edge" or two that wouldn't appeal to the entire electorate. Can't mix religion with politics. We had one Premier here who tried it and it didn't work.
 

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She came across as nutty during the leadership race. She needs better handlers or she'd better forget politics and go back to medicine full time.
 

tay

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You had your chance for many months to get that screen shot, so don't complain.
Pay attention Walter.... As I posted above I included the link to his previous site. Here are the two of them again and here's a helpful tip. You have to click on both links to see the difference..........

Andrew Sheer, on becoming the Conservative leader, takes down all policies from his website

Andrew Scheer. Real Conservative. Real Leader.

Up Until elected website that outlined his platform:


https://web.archive.org/web/20170525150353/http://www.andrewscheer.com/



The Conservatives dodged a bullet when they narrowly rejected Maxime Bernier's full blown libertarianism.

They now claim that they have chosen Stephen Harper with a smile. Throughout the campaign, they kept saying that the problem wasn't their policies, it was their failure to sell them.

Scheer's acceptance speech was full of standard Conservative boilerplate. So the party is still not where the majority of Canadians are. But Scheer has another problem. Susan Delacourt writes:
If Scheer thought keeping order in the Commons was no walk in the park during his term as Speaker from 2011 to 2015, he’s soon going to learn it’s a lot harder to break up brawls in your own caucus — disputes that have proved to be hugely divisive in Canadian politics in the past.

When Scheer finally took the stage on Saturday night (in front of more than a few Conservatives with mouths agape over this latest reversal of polling fortunes), he offered the usual call for party unity. “We will win when we are united,” he said, praising Stephen Harper, the leader he’s replacing.​
Harper kept the party together by ruling with an iron fist -- and by dishing out the perks of power:
Can Scheer hammer those pieces together after this weekend — with only the perks of Official Opposition to hand out, along with the promise of cabinet spots in the distant future? We’re going to see an interesting display of political management dynamics over the next year or two.​
They've always been a fractious bunch. That's why they rejected Michael Chong. I suspect they will come to regret not choosing the candidate who best understands this country. They may eventually come to the conclusion that their choice this weekend was Scheer Stupidity.