Conservatives responsible for heckling in house

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Looks like we'll have to buy from the Ukrainians.

The F-35 program is on track as planned.
We have the full confidence of our partners and associates.
We care about Canadians.
The F-35 program is on track as planned.
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Great...now you're now repeating what your daughter said about it:lol:

You will feel her wrath!
 

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It's the real Uke borscht. No tomatos or sausage like the Russian crap.

Back in 1962 I boarded with a Ukrainian couple in Terrace..................lots of borscht and good too. Mostly beets as I recall- maybe some turnips! I made some myself a few years ago, not bad for a novice! But my wife wouldn't eat it!
 

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Justin Trudeau calls on Peter Kent to issue his own apology after expletive-tinged Commons clash

Justin Trudeau has hit back at Peter Kent, questioning whether the Federal Environment Minister should issue his own apology for “chiding the Opposition” after the two clashed in parliament yesterday.

The Liberal MP for Papineau caused uproar Wednesday after he called Mr. Kent a “piece of ****” during a heated question time debate over the Kyoto Protocol.

Mr. Trudeau immediately apologized, admitting he “lost his cool” after Mr. Kent questioned why NDP environment critic Megan Leslie had not attended last week’s climate change summit in South Africa.


But Mr. Trudeau said on Twitter that Mr. Kent also had questions to answer over his treatment of Opposition MPs during Wednesday’s debate: “I used unparliamentary language and apologized. Is Kent going to apologize for chiding the Opp for not being at COP17 -when HE banned us!”
I used unparliamentary language and apologized. Is Kent going to apologize for chiding the Opp for not being at COP17 -when HE banned us!—
Justin Trudeau, MP (@justinpjtrudeau) December 14, 2011
Canada officially withdrew from the Kyoto accord on Monday, drawing pointed criticism from overseas signatories to the pact.

In a particularly heated question period session, Mr. Trudeau became incensed after Mr. Kent suggested that Ms. Leslie should have been in Durban for the UN meeting, despite the minister banning all non-government MPs from Canada’s official delegation.

House Speaker Andrew Scheer could barely keep control as members of the government and opposition went after each other.

In questioning Mr. Kent, Ms. Leslie suggested Canada was abandoning Kyoto to hide the Conservative government’s failure to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

As the environment minister chided opposition parties for not attending the conference, Trudeau could be heard shouting, “Oh, you piece of ****,” at Mr. Kent.

Mr. Kent claimed he wasn’t worried by Mr. Trudeau’s language, but called on the Liberal MP to apologize to the House.

Mr. Trudeau quickly said sorry and asked that his remarks be stricken from the record, but only after noting that the Conservative government had forcefully prevented opposition parties from attending the conference.

“Peter Kent and the government, in contrast to all parliamentary tradition going back 20 years, had refused to allow any members of the opposition to attend the Durban conference,” he said. “This is a tradition that goes back 20 years of bringing multiple voices to a conference. He did not, they did not.”

Mr. Trudeau was backed by Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, re-tweeting a response on his own Twitter account:
@rbrtmllr @justinpjtrudeau NOT. Very difficult to get to COP. UN deadline 2 apply passed before Kent told us we were not on del. #canpoli
Elizabeth May MP (@ElizabethMay) December 15, 2011
The Liberal MP was not alone as members of Parliament hurled insults and swore at each other in the final Question Period of the year.

The exchanges marked a new high — or low — in parliamentary conduct and served to highlight the extreme emotions and partisanship that has swept the federal political scene over the past few months.

Justin Trudeau calls on Peter Kent to issue his own apology after expletive-filled Commons clash | News | National Post
 

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House antics weaken nation

That relief Canadians felt upon waking this morning likely came from the closing of the doors to the Commons.

Despite pledges this spring to have decorum in the House, the last few weeks have been heated as the government used its majority muscle to shut down debates, rush through laws, insult opposition members, attack minorities, ignore the democratic wishes of prairie farmers, alienate First Nations and upset the international community.

Its record is stunning. But if one were looking for dignity across the aisle, disappointment awaited.

Opposition members began by tweeting obscenities about government tactics and ended with Liberal MP Justin Trudeau yelling obscenities at Environment Minister Peter Kent for his alleged dishonesty. Mr. Trudeau was angry because the minister mocked the NDP critic for not showing up in Durban for the recent climate summit when it was the government that blocked opposition members from going.

His attack on Mr. Kent was milder than criticism from abroad, however. European newspapers mocked the minister for attending the summit, and then pulling out of the Kyoto Protocol within hours of returning home.

"It would be a fatal signal to allow Canada to get away with this," said the daily, Die Tageszeitung.

"Canada has a reputation as the country of giant forests, clean air, clear lakes and rivers where salmon happily leap - a unique environmental idyll. The exact opposite is true," offered the Financial Times Deutschland.

Canada's inability even to pretend to care about the rest of the world could seriously hamper attempts by western premiers to make our country an energy superpower. But Mr. Kent's stance shouldn't be a surprise. Canada has abjectly failed in its foolish commitment to reduce emissions to six per cent below 1990 levels.

And though that failure occurred during both Liberal and Conservative administrations, it was clear that Canadians had no stomach for the sacrifices needed to get anywhere near the target. Whenever any politician talked about what had to be done - from kick-starting Canada's moribund nuclear power industry to establishing more wind farms to introducing a carbon tax or even former Liberal leader Stéphane Dion's "Green Shift" - Canadians greeted the ideas with vicious attacks and derision.

In Canada's current political climate, nastiness has proven more rewarding than constructive debate.

Thus, criminal justice is delineated between hard or soft on crime, or allying oneself with victims or criminals. The environment is pitted against the economy; the provinces against Ottawa on health care, the gun registry and the cost of prisons; First Nation's are pitted against the Conservative government about poverty on the reserves.

It's all reflected in the tone of parliamentary debate. This more than just a nasty spectacle. It endangers Canada.

As NDP MP Pat Martin, no stranger to controversy himself, said this week: "I am here to emphasize that the very magic of a country that cannot possibly work on paper, but actually works very well in practice, - is the accommodation of the legitimate concerns of the constituent regions that make up our country."

The editorials that appear in this space represent the opinion of The StarPhoenix. They are unsigned because they do not necessarily represent the personal views of the writers. The positions taken in the editorials are arrived at through discussion among the members of the newspaper's editorial board, which operates independently from the news departments of the paper.
 

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House antics weaken nation

That relief Canadians felt upon waking this morning likely came from the closing of the doors to the Commons.

Despite pledges this spring to have decorum in the House, the last few weeks have been heated as the government used its majority muscle to shut down debates, rush through laws, insult opposition members, attack minorities, ignore the democratic wishes of prairie farmers, alienate First Nations and upset the international community.

Its record is stunning. But if one were looking for dignity across the aisle, disappointment awaited.

Opposition members began by tweeting obscenities about government tactics and ended with Liberal MP Justin Trudeau yelling obscenities at Environment Minister Peter Kent for his alleged dishonesty. Mr. Trudeau was angry because the minister mocked the NDP critic for not showing up in Durban for the recent climate summit when it was the government that blocked opposition members from going.

His attack on Mr. Kent was milder than criticism from abroad, however. European newspapers mocked the minister for attending the summit, and then pulling out of the Kyoto Protocol within hours of returning home.

"It would be a fatal signal to allow Canada to get away with this," said the daily, Die Tageszeitung.

"Canada has a reputation as the country of giant forests, clean air, clear lakes and rivers where salmon happily leap - a unique environmental idyll. The exact opposite is true," offered the Financial Times Deutschland.

Canada's inability even to pretend to care about the rest of the world could seriously hamper attempts by western premiers to make our country an energy superpower. But Mr. Kent's stance shouldn't be a surprise. Canada has abjectly failed in its foolish commitment to reduce emissions to six per cent below 1990 levels.

And though that failure occurred during both Liberal and Conservative administrations, it was clear that Canadians had no stomach for the sacrifices needed to get anywhere near the target. Whenever any politician talked about what had to be done - from kick-starting Canada's moribund nuclear power industry to establishing more wind farms to introducing a carbon tax or even former Liberal leader Stéphane Dion's "Green Shift" - Canadians greeted the ideas with vicious attacks and derision.

In Canada's current political climate, nastiness has proven more rewarding than constructive debate.

Thus, criminal justice is delineated between hard or soft on crime, or allying oneself with victims or criminals. The environment is pitted against the economy; the provinces against Ottawa on health care, the gun registry and the cost of prisons; First Nation's are pitted against the Conservative government about poverty on the reserves.

It's all reflected in the tone of parliamentary debate. This more than just a nasty spectacle. It endangers Canada.

As NDP MP Pat Martin, no stranger to controversy himself, said this week: "I am here to emphasize that the very magic of a country that cannot possibly work on paper, but actually works very well in practice, - is the accommodation of the legitimate concerns of the constituent regions that make up our country."

The editorials that appear in this space represent the opinion of The StarPhoenix. They are unsigned because they do not necessarily represent the personal views of the writers. The positions taken in the editorials are arrived at through discussion among the members of the newspaper's editorial board, which operates independently from the news departments of the paper.
If the opposition was not so far out of touch with reality they would not be in this position. For the most part the conservatives are doing the job we elected them to do. The opposition parties should read their job description. It does not include needlessly dragging on debate with nothing important to contribute. Nor does it include pushing a global wealth redistribution scheme that will destroy or economy and Canadians do not want.
 

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Just In - News Flash - Seems that some fluff on the chin misconstrued what Little JT had really said.