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You never mentioned seeing the Bride or Groom or cake. Were there some candles burning, like a lot of candles?
 
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It's rich, atheist, souless corporations who are responsible for feeding and housing the poor not the Pope. Didn't you get the OWS newsletter?
 
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MHz said:
Nothing but God is to be worshiped, if He isn't here how can he be worshiped at this moment? Prayer on the other hand is something that is supposed to come in handy in terms of actual safety from real harm during the 3 1/2 years before Christ arrives and removes the danger for ever. That the 'latter days' are even a part of prophecy is something the Bible does quite well in that there are many such instances rather than a few. I kind of like the way there is a way to say a long prayer in private or this version for those in immediate peril.
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There's no point in worshiping because no gods are paying attention to our meager goings on. If you're hanging by your fingers on the side of a cliff, you go ahead and pray. I'd get my feet busy finding support. Prayer does about twice as much as worshiping. 2x0=0

De:4:29-31:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
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IOW, if you give up thinking for yourself, you can think you believe.

Lu:18:11-14:
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself,
God,
I thank thee,
that I am not as other men are, extortioners,
unjust,
adulterers,
or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week,
I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican,
standing afar off,
would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven,
but smote upon his breast,
saying,
God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you,
this man went down to his house justified rather than the other:
for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
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lol I-eth can't-eth believeth thateth ME-eth people-eth used-eth to-eth talketh liketh thateth.

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Pope Rejects Lunch with Boehner, Pelosi, McConnell, Reid: He will be Dining with the Homeless

We now know why the United States Congress absolutely did not want Pope Francis to come to America. He makes them look like the complete as*holes they are. Obviously, Congress thought Pope Francis would be honored to dine with them, and all their pomp and prestige. They were wrong.
Pope Francis says he didn’t have the time because he already had a date eating with the homeless. In fact, he is not only going to be eating with them, but serving them. The meal will take place at St. Patrick’s Church in Washington, D.C.
Rather than try to write some great prose about this situation, Ring of Fire will simply quote Eric March from the website Upworthy, because he nailed it:
Unlike some of his predecessors, Francis has reminded journalists and world leaders time and time again that the church is for the poor, blasted the global financial system which causes so much poverty in the first place, and called on Catholics across the globe to take action and start lifting up the most vulnerable among them.
He’s also spoken out forcefully against economic inequality.
Including some of the worst, most exploitative labor practices in the world, which create conditions that allow hardship and desperation to thrive.
Blowing off John Boehner and Nancy Pelosi to serve the homeless is pretty much the kind of badassery we’ve come to expect from this pope when it comes to speaking up for the world’s most hard-up.


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Isn't this what Christianity is supposed to be about?

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It's easy to "eat with the poor" when you know that you can say a few blessings and then scoot off back to your table loaded with the best cooked and served food around that's sitting on the finest china and gold.
 
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darkbeaver said:
I have to disagree, God kills with great regularity. Tornados, hurricanes earthquakes disease volcanic eruptions falling chunks of sky clouds of gas and lightening bolts tsunamies snake bite.
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That would just be natural occurrences. Living on the Earth can be dangerous.

AnnaG said:
It's easy to "eat with the poor" when you know that you can say a few blessings and then scoot off back to your table loaded with the best cooked and served food around that's sitting on the finest china and gold.
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I have no doubt about that. Like most of the ruling elite, he may even eat the poor if given a chance. I often wonder that this pope's sudden swing away from the usual position of the church is nothing more than a ruse to get ex-catholics to "come home to the church". When the church starts selling off its assets to feed and house the poor, I might take them seriously. But that won't change my mind about being an ex-catholic.
 
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Frankiedoodle said:
In the United States, there is separation of church and state. In Canada, this is not true. We do not recognize that separation. Canadians have the right to worship the religion of their choice to not practice any religion at all.
As with a few other topics, the feeling of whether there is a God or not, seems to inflame people.
The argument whether 2+2=7 or 2+2=8 will never be agreed on.
It is too bad that people cannot just respect each other and let the individual practice their own personal faith ot just let someone be.
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Live and let live? Hell no!
Mostly it is what I call the aggressive religions that coerce, con, cajole, compel their proponents to coerce, con, cajole, compel others into stuff. Guess which ones I call "aggressive".
 
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AnnaG said:
There's no point in worshiping because no gods are paying attention to our meager goings on. If you're hanging by your fingers on the side of a cliff, you go ahead and pray. I'll get my feet busy finding support. Prayer does about twice as much as worshiping. 2x0=0

IOW, if you give up thinking for yourself, you can think you believe.
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So you worship before the alter of intelligent reason.


lifted definitions from some damn dictionary

(Yet truly defining worship proves more difficult because it is both an attitude and an act.

The meaning of the New Testament Greek word most often translated “worship” (proskuneo) is “to fall down before” or “bow down before.” Worship is a state (an attitude) of spirit. Since it’s an internal, individual action, it could/should be done most of the time (or all the time) in our lives, regardless of place or situation . )
 
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Cliffy said:
That would just be natural occurrences. Living on the Earth can be dangerous.


I have no doubt about that. Like most of the ruling elite, he may even eat the poor if given a chance. I often wonder that this pope's sudden swing away from the usual position of the church is nothing more than a ruse to get ex-catholics to "come home to the church". When the church starts selling off its assets to feed and house the poor, I might take them seriously. But that won't change my mind about being an ex-catholic.
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Nature is God.

Tecumsehsbones said:
I worship before the altar of correct spelling.
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you are blessed among the wicked
 
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darkbeaver said:
So you worship before the alter of intelligent reason.


lifted definitions from some damn dictionary

(Yet truly defining worship proves more difficult because it is both an attitude and an act.

The meaning of the New Testament Greek word most often translated “worship” (proskuneo) is “to fall down before” or “bow down before.” Worship is a state (an attitude) of spirit. Since it’s an internal, individual action, it could/should be done most of the time (or all the time) in our lives, regardless of place or situation . )
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Meh Rejoice in stuff, worship nothing.
Reasoning is why my preferred deities are goddesses and gods of wisdom. They tend to be more pleasant than those like Jehovah, Allah, and others who behave like pampered, temperamental, sociopathic 3 year olds.
 
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Spiritual literacy? Please excuse my lack of it, but what the hell is it? Can I eat it?
 
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