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Motar said:
Yes, MHz. Some of God's people are more auditory in their perception while others are more visual. Some of this is determined by the education method(s) applied during our formative years. We can perceive God through all of our senses since we are physical beings living in a physical environment created by Him. The Artist is evident in His work.

Is our perception of God merely physical? How/why do sentient beings fail to recognize the Messenger/misconstrue the message?
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You can read a script and not be 'part of it'. Our part has certain 'markers' that allow believers to determine if the script is being followed or not. One such sign would be the 12 Tribes dating back to the days of Abraham being brought out of the graves. That is what 'power' means as it also the sign that follows a few years of having two Moses like people doing Moses type things which should be unlike what can be done today. The Bible would be the word and the 1,000 year reign would be 'power'.

1Co:4:20:
For the kingdom of God is not in word,
but in power.

Frankiedoodle said:
It also is not written in chronological order.
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Daniel would have been the one to put all the books back into perfect condition. The 12 Books listed after Daniel were all written before Daniel. The reason they were 'moved' is that all of their prophecies applied to where Daniel left off, how the end of the iron/clay kingdom goes.

The order it does go by is that from Ge:4 to Re:19 the 'topic' is all about the words in Ge:3:15 and the two bruises. The cross was the completion of all things to do with the bruise to the heel, the end of the iron/clay is how the events that finish the other bruise will happen. If the Gospels were imaginary then the other bruise will be the same, if it was literal so will the completion of the bruise to the head.
 
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MHz said:
You can read a script and not be 'part of it'. Our part has certain 'markers' that allow believers to determine if the script is being followed or not. One such sign would be the 12 Tribes dating back to the days of Abraham being brought out of the graves. That is what 'power' means as it also the sign that follows a few years of having two Moses like people doing Moses type things which should be unlike what can be done today. The Bible would be the word and the 1,000 year reign would be 'power'.

1Co:4:20:
For the kingdom of God is not in word,
but in power.


Daniel would have been the one to put all the books back into perfect condition. The 12 Books listed after Daniel were all written before Daniel. The reason they were 'moved' is that all of their prophecies applied to where Daniel left off, how the end of the iron/clay kingdom goes.

The order it does go by is that from Ge:4 to Re:19 the 'topic' is all about the words in Ge:3:15 and the two bruises. The cross was the completion of all things to do with the bruise to the heel, the end of the iron/clay is how the events that finish the other bruise will happen. If the Gospels were imaginary then the other bruise will be the same, if it was literal so will the completion of the bruise to the head.
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Moses means mankind that is the translation. It never meant one individual.

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obsessions, and symbolic science not obliterated, these great truths could have been descried in Biblical texts in one or another form. In Exodus (25) the Lord’s instruction to Moses is given: "Inside the ark you must place the laws I give you." This is not an order to deposit documents in a chest, as childish orthodoxy might suppose. It is the divine decree that bids mankind imprint the laws of life, learned from mundane experience, indelibly upon the inner tablets of the human spirit. Says the Eternal: "I will write my laws upon the hearts, and in their minds will I write them." The lessons of truth must be engraved upon the eternal memory of the seminal divinity within. Thus, when the outer body of life is dissolved, the imperishable soul preserves the fruits of all past living in the unseen world of ideal archetypal forms.


DB( Moses is the Arc and within Moses God has placed the covenant (his law) to carry on the water (matter) of life.) DB
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Frankiedoodle said:
My aim is to make it through the day. I do believe in a God. However, I don't take the Bible, word for word. A lot of the writings were done from words that had passed down and put to paper many, many years later. It also is not written in chronological order. I do think it serves a purpose as being a guide as how we should live. I do not believe in a heaven and a hell that God is in charge of placing us due to our behaviour. I think that we humans make our own heaven and our own hell.
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In my experience, FD, an individual's theology is best characterized by his/her conduct. A right relationship with God yields righteousness in our relationships with one another. This is evidenced throughout Scripture and throughout human history. Believer is as believer does. Your humble tone and honest testimony bless those who read/hear it : )
 
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darkbeaver said:
Moses means mankind that is the translation. It never meant one individual.

DB( Moses is the Arc and within Moses God has placed the covenant (his law) to carry on the water (matter) of life.) DB
http://pc93.tripod.com/lostlght.htm
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Perfection has a progression, in the OT the laws were mean to stop people from committing certain acts. If you resisted doing these acts you were considered to be sinless.
NT Law changed that so when you thought about breaking a commandment that was equal to breaking it. So far that is not really practiced by the Church but if it had it would mean a person didn't think about sins so he is never in need of repenting the sins. The mentioned 1,000 year reign is the first time that the sermon is followed. The sinless heart can be given to a person who is sinless, to be that way you have to enter the grave as that is the only way to erase all sin in God's determinations. Having a sinless heart when you are given a glorified body means things stay that way forever. The ones in the 1,000 year reign are resurrected into a world without sinners and the first thing they do is walk to the river that has living water in it. The last to go through that process are the rest of mankind when they come alive at the Great White Throne event.
 
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JLM said:
Given that Moses means mankind...
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"When the child grew older, she took him to Pharaoh’s daughter and he became her son. She named him Moses, saying, “I drew him out of the water." (Exodus 2:10 NIV)

Moses
(masc. proper name, name of Hebrew prophet and lawgiver, from Latin, from Greek Mouses, from Hebrew Mosheh, of unknown origin. Most scholars see in it the Hebraization of Egyptian mes, mesu 'child, son,' which is often used in theophorous names. According to this derivation the words of Pharaoh's daughter in Ex. 2:10, 'For out of the water I drew him' are not the explanation of the Hebrew name Mosheh, but express the idea that the Egyptian name given by Pharaoh's daughter resembles in sound, and therefore, reminds us of, the Hebrew verb mashah 'he drew out,' which is suggestive of the words spoken by Pharaoh's daughter. Online Etymology Dictionary
 
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petros said:
Consider this..placebo is 40% effective yet 80% of the planet is happy after worshipping their deity.
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And I'm perfectly happy with that as long as the "worship" doesn't involve being knee-deep in the blood of infidels or writing Gawd's will into the civil laws.
 
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Being right would make Him the King over all that we have called gods in the present and past. (rather than walking with them they would be bowed down to God. You miss that memo or has under understanding been taken away from you?
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Muzzies, Khristdashians, Shinto, Odinsons, even Buddhists. The one rule of religion that don't never seem to get broken is Gawd being on your side when it's time to slaughter the neighbors.
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And the winner of heavily armed exploitation with gods explicit approval is?--drum role---wait wait---the united states of america--#1 again for 75 consecutive years--the assembled born agins are rapturous in there approving adulation, the sky opens and the hand of God decends rubbing the heads of the congregated patriots. Rome never had it so fine.

Motar said:
"When the child grew older, she took him to Pharaoh’s daughter and he became her son. She named him Moses, saying, “I drew him out of the water." (Exodus 2:10 NIV)

Moses
(masc. proper name, name of Hebrew prophet and lawgiver, from Latin, from Greek Mouses, from Hebrew Mosheh, of unknown origin. Most scholars see in it the Hebraization of Egyptian mes, mesu 'child, son,' which is often used in theophorous names. According to this derivation the words of Pharaoh's daughter in Ex. 2:10, 'For out of the water I drew him' are not the explanation of the Hebrew name Mosheh, but express the idea that the Egyptian name given by Pharaoh's daughter resembles in sound, and therefore, reminds us of, the Hebrew verb mashah 'he drew out,' which is suggestive of the words spoken by Pharaoh's daughter. Online Etymology Dictionary
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Water is the fountain of life. Man (moses) was drawn out of water as is every living thing on earth. Study your Egyptian Judeo Christian heritage.100% egyptian 0% Hebrew 0% christian both of the later are simplified adaptations of the former.

and so it is that God always called man (typed by "Moses") up into Mount Sinai to commune with him. Jesus, the Christ, is drawn up onto the mount to be tempted, he delivers his Sermon or Sayings of wisdom to humanity on the mount (though Luke says it was on a level plain), he was crucified on the hill and was transfigured in the height. Even the ark landed on the "mount of earth," as "Ararat" is a variant of the Hebrew arets (old form areth), "the earth."
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Yep. And the client states benefit without chipping in. Life's pretty good for our client states.
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We have not agreed on what might constitute chipping in.

petros said:
WTF is a Judeo Christian?
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Judeo-Christian


Also found in: Wikipedia. Ju·de·o-Chris·tian

(jo͞o-dā′ō-krĭs′chən)adj. Relating to or derived from both the Jewish and Christian religions: Judeo-Christian principles.

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Ju•de•o-Chris•tian

(dʒuˈdeɪ oʊˈkrɪs tʃən, -ˈdi-)

adj. of or pertaining to the religious writings, beliefs, values, or traditions held in common by Judaism and Christianity.
[1895–1900]
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Adj.1.Judeo-Christian - being historically related to both Judaism and Christianity; "the Judeo-Christian tradition"Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2012 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.
 
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