Confused about Christ?
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There are problems with the bible as well. It is covered by Masseys works. He covers the crooked Apostles like Peter and nails that creasy prick and his hoodies as responsible for screwing up the previous body of sound natural philosophy. But as you say if you don't familiarize yourself with metaphor and allegories you are wasteing your time reading the bible cuz you aint getting the real picture, not to mention boring the hell out of anyone stunned enough to listen to you. The main character hung on a cross for quite a while we are told full of holes and dehydrated like a sun dried tomatoe stuffed into a cave and then came back to life and you had to sit there and listen to that in Latin when you were German and if you complained you were tortured and burned at the stake. Where's the little cuddly lamb in that?
Then you run into something like Proverbs:8 where the message tells you to pay attention and then pretty much quotes part of what is said in the NT about listening to instructions if you like being alive. The odds of somebody finding those words today are someplace above zero, having a lot of them alters that opening number. I'm impressed and I can explain why, you aren't impressed and your reasons are shaky at best.
How many times have I asked you to take the 'acid test' by reading the explanations of a vision or three and saying it is impossible to understand every single word on the first read. That would alter your reading of the 'confusing' vision words just that fast. You won't do it because you would have to rearrange some of your personal beliefs and what is there 'took a lot of hard work'. You may have known all that but why did you stop learning at that point? (your current version has some flaws)
If the doubting Thomas story wasn't included faith through reading a book would not be possible as believers back in the days of the NT has people who could do signs following which includes healing all illnesses just by touch and a few other things like getting people to come back to life once the flesh starts to stink. If you saw those things for yourself and you remained a non-believer you might not be making the right decision. Consider this 'lack of proof' you mention. If you found some would that 'ruin' the faith by reading part that we are supposed to be in at the moment?
The proof you are seeking is supposed to be available again for 1260 days before decision time has any real consequences.
I looked at the topics and thought it might be interesting to check out. I should have known that it was a mistake. Gave up reading after 2 pages, so I zipped to the end. I guess this is the one that will never be settled and no one's mind is ever going to be changed. All I can add is my God is a God of love.
Have you looked at the world around you son? Where's the Love. More like Hell.
I am sorry that you had to ask the question about love and he'll. I have suffered from several mental illnesses for many years. I am on permanent disability pension (CPP). A have tried to commit suicide. Been in the psych ward so many times I don't know. Had ECT a couple of times. I have 2 children, 3 grand-daughters and another grandchild on the way. In a loving relationship.My world seems like crap a lot of the time but I have made it through today.
Starting about 3:30PM on 'that day', until that time not such a great day for a whole lot of people.
Joe:2:2:
A day of darkness and of gloominess,
a day of clouds and of thick darkness,
as the morning spread upon the mountains:
a great people and a strong;
there hath not been ever the like,
neither shall be any more after it,
even to the years of many generations.
Eze:37:12-14:
Therefore prophesy and say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
O my people,
I will open your graves,
and cause you to come up out of your graves,
and bring you into the land of Israel.
And ye shall know that I am the LORD,
when I have opened your graves,
O my people,
and brought you up out of your graves,
And shall put my spirit in you,
and ye shall live,
and I shall place you in your own land:
then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it,
and performed it,
saith the LORD.
It carries in down to the sparrows so what is your question? In the story of Job the one who was tormented by Satan was given more rewards by God that those who suffered no hardships. Perhaps you can relate to the chapter about getting old. The grinders are teeth and the back of an old man is bent and the windows are the blind eyes of an old person. The grave doesn't seem so scary once you can do 1/2 the things you used to be able to do.
Lu:12:6-7:
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value than many sparrows.
Ec:12:3:
In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble,
and the strong men shall bow themselves,
and the grinders cease because they are few,
and those that look out of the windows be darkened,
I am so glad you joined the discussion, FD. Your testimony is refreshingly humble and honest and hopeful, lending credence to the love of God you mentioned in an earlier post. Thank you for blessing us with your living witness.
Thank you Motor for your comment at the end of your post. I was afraid that I had shared too much."And God saw everything that he had made and behold, it was very good."
Faith does not need a particular doctrine or dogma to be valid. Whatever gets you through the night...
" Whatever gets you through the night." That is as wrong as it gets. Some need to burn a village, some need to buy and sell flesh, some need to crush the poor deflower the innocent poison the wells. Better the night folds over you for eternity. Only work will set you free.
for me the Bible is that voice and it is pretty detailed in what it is saying.
1Tm:1:13:
Who was before a blasphemer,
and a persecutor,
and injurious:
but I obtained mercy,
because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
Is that the coming night alone or every coming night?
1Tm:1:13:
Who was before a blasphemer,
and a persecutor,
and injurious:
but I obtained mercy,
because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
Yes, MHz. Some of God's people are more auditory in their perception while others are more visual. Some of this is determined by the education method(s) applied during our formative years. We can perceive God through all of our senses since we are physical beings living in a physical environment created by Him. The Artist is evident in His work.
Is our perception of God merely physical? How/why do sentient beings fail to recognize the Messenger/misconstrue the message?
A tree is a physical being. You are different from a tree, you have eaten from the tree and know good and evil, a tree is not gifted in the same way.
One of the kids perhaps. But I'm not famous. Loads of people love to collect the items of famous people. Even porn stars sell their dirty panties to fans. lmao
Zombies are real? wow
If I saw weird shtt like the tales in the Bible contain, I'd be wondering how they happened, not standing (or sitting) there with a stunned look on my face gibbering about miracles.
huh?
I'm sorry your god allowed all that to happen to you, but I am glad you pulled through it all anyways.
Sorry, but the way I see it is that if your god is all-knowing, all-powerful, etc. and created everything, then it can see what's coming, can fix anything, and it either created bad stuff or evil in the first place.
So I am prone to think it doesn't give a shtt or doesn't exist. Hence, if there is an after-death, I want to hang with a nicer goddess or god.
My aim is to make it through the day. I do believe in a God. However, I don't take the Bible, word for word. A lot of the writings were done from words that had passed down and put to paper many, many years later. It also is not written in chronological order. I do think it serves a purpose as being a guide as how we should live. I do not believe in a heaven and a hell that God is in charge of placing us due to our behaviour. I think that we humans make our own heaven and our own hell.
I agree with Religion and the Bible to the extent of trying to live by the Golden Rule at my discretion. Politicians don't qualify.
