Chrétien, Broadbent brokering possible coalition: reports

[TenPenny]

If the gLiberals and the NDP form a coalition, who'll be PM?

Dion has announced his intention to resign already.

 

[scratch]

TRY JUSTIN TRUDEAU!
rgs
scth

 

[Socrates the Greek]

If the gLiberals and the NDP form a coalition, who'll be PM?

Dion has announced his intention to resign already.

Harper:roll:

 

[Risus]

TRY JUSTIN TRUDEAU!
rgs
scth

Give me a break. That is idiotic. How many days experience does he have???

 

[Risus]

Good day to all please forgive my anger..........
The Finance minister tells Canadian workers not to think about strike, and went farther to say to the Canadian worker if you have a job don’t make noise for 2 years your right to strike has been revoked, while some of these workers have voted for the vindictive Cons, and here are a bunch of f ucking thugs doing the opposite. They have a job and the ****ers are making unnecessary noise…… F UCKING hypocritesssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

ranting again, eh? Maybe you should go out on strike. Lots of others willing to step in....

 

[Risus]

If Liberals and NDP do end up forming a coalition government, my hope would be that they bring back Paul Martin as the PM. Rightly or wrongly (in my opinion, wrongly), many people don’t have any confidence in Dion as the PM.

I think Paul Martin would be just right of the job, assuming he wants to take it.

So what if the libs and ndp form a coalition? They will still need the bloc, and that will never work.

 

[Trex]

TRY JUSTIN TRUDEAU!
rgs
scth

Scratch,
Your fixating.
We all understand your sold on the guy.
But it just ain't to be.
It ain't.
Not now.
Its been covered before.

Pick an Iggy, a Bob, a behind the scenes Jean or Paul, a Steven, a Jack or even an Elizbeth.

But for god's sake free the Justin.

Trex

 

[scratch]

Rs,
You've a surprise coming!

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Scratch,
Your fixating.
We all understand your sold on the guy.
But it just ain't to be.
It ain't.
Not now.
Its been covered before.

Pick an Iggy, a Bob, a behind the scenes Jean or Paul, a Steven, a Jack or even an Elizbeth.

But for god's sake free the Justin.

Trex

:roll::roll::roll:

 

[scratch]

You lose.

 

[Tonington]

How does that exactly work, they lie and still win?

Look at what the other options for PM were.

If any of them had a personality stronger than my African cichlid...well, yah, they don't.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

So what if the libs and ndp form a coalition? They will still need the bloc, and that will never work.

My understanding is that Bloc won’t be part of the coalition, but will support the Lib-NDP government on an issue by issue bases. Bloc will certainly support the stimulus package; all the opposition parties seem to want that.

Then Bloc will support the government as and if it sees fit, basically Bloc is a party of the left and is expected to agree with the government on many issues. Besides, any bill except an economic bill is not a confidence vote, so even if the government is defeated, that won’t trigger an election.

If the coalition is formed, the first big test will be the budget. No doubt the coalition will pass some sort of stimulus package. Then can it form a common ground with the Bloc on the budget? If it can, it will stay in power for at least one year, until the 2010 budget.

It will also depend upon who leads the coalition. Somebody like Paul Martin, who has the national stature and a proven record of fixing the economic mess left by Mulroney, will probably last longer than somebody else.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

My understanding is that Bloc won’t be part of the coalition, but will support the Lib-NDP government on an issue by issue bases. Bloc will certainly support the stimulus package; all the opposition parties seem to want that.

Then Bloc will support the government as and if it sees fit, basically Bloc is a party of the left and is expected to agree with the government on many issues. Besides, any bill except an economic bill is not a confidence vote, so even if the government is defeated, that won’t trigger an election.

If the coalition is formed, the first big test will be the budget. No doubt the coalition will pass some sort of stimulus package. Then can it form a common ground with the Bloc on the budget? If it can, it will stay in power for at least one year, until the 2010 budget.

It will also depend upon who leads the coalition. Somebody like Paul Martin, who has the national stature and a proven record of fixing the economic mess left by Mulroney, will probably last longer than somebody else.

Great thought................:smile:

 

[Colpy]

My understanding is that Bloc won’t be part of the coalition, but will support the Lib-NDP government on an issue by issue bases. Bloc will certainly support the stimulus package; all the opposition parties seem to want that.

Then Bloc will support the government as and if it sees fit, basically Bloc is a party of the left and is expected to agree with the government on many issues. Besides, any bill except an economic bill is not a confidence vote, so even if the government is defeated, that won’t trigger an election.

If the coalition is formed, the first big test will be the budget. No doubt the coalition will pass some sort of stimulus package. Then can it form a common ground with the Bloc on the budget? If it can, it will stay in power for at least one year, until the 2010 budget.

It will also depend upon who leads the coalition. Somebody like Paul Martin, who has the national stature and a proven record of fixing the economic mess left by Mulroney, will probably last longer than somebody else.

Paul Martin?

Perhaps not a bad choice.....except that the deal is being negotiated by Jean the Don......he eliminated large corporate donations and torpedoed his own party just to screw Martin.......I don't think that will happen.

This whole idea of a coalition with the BQ as a "silent partner" stinks...bad. It simply serves to legitimize the Federal separatist party (now there's an oxymoron) and throw all the parties into convulsions trying to give the separatists more and more and more, thus destroying the growing sense of the BQ's insignificance and GREATLY strengthening them in Quebec.

Absolutely irresponsible.

Reprehensible.

Outrageous.

 

[Ron in Regina]

My understanding is that Bloc won’t be part of the coalition, but will support the Lib-NDP government on an issue by issue bases. Bloc will certainly support the stimulus package; all the opposition parties seem to want that.

Then Bloc will support the government as and if it sees fit, basically Bloc is a party of the left and is expected to agree with the government on many issues. Besides, any bill except an economic bill is not a confidence vote, so even if the government is defeated, that won’t trigger an election.

If the coalition is formed, the first big test will be the budget. No doubt the coalition will pass some sort of stimulus package. Then can it form a common ground with the Bloc on the budget? If it can, it will stay in power for at least one year, until the 2010 budget.

It will also depend upon who leads the coalition. Somebody like Paul Martin, who has the national stature and a proven record of fixing the economic mess left by Mulroney, will probably last longer than somebody else.

Paul Martin seems to have already made it clear that he's quite content to drive his
tractor and play with his Grandchildren. He's set. He's retired. He's happy with
where he's at. He's out.

You're on track with the Bloc supporting the coalition if and when it see's fit on a
case by case basis. No matter what a vote is about, there better be a carrot tied
to it for Quebec or "Thanks but No Thanks." That sounds kind'a rich for a World
economic turn down.

Regardless about how this plays out, it'll give us all plenty to dissect on these Forums.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Paul Martin?

Perhaps not a bad choice.....except that the deal is being negotiated by Jean the Don......he eliminated large corporate donations and torpedoed his own party just to screw Martin.......I don't think that will happen.

This whole idea of a coalition with the BQ as a "silent partner" stinks...bad. It simply serves to legitimize the Federal separatist party (now there's an oxymoron) and throw all the parties into convulsions trying to give the separatists more and more and more, thus destroying the growing sense of the BQ's insignificance and GREATLY strengthening them in Quebec.

Absolutely irresponsible.

Reprehensible.

Outrageous.

Good day to you Colpy, what your Cons did in the house yesterday is nothing but
Absolutely irresponsible.

Reprehensible.

and Outrageous......

The Cons blinked and that is what happens to a bully when he faces fears opposition, he gets confused and starts to walk away like a wet dog. It looks good on them.
57% of the Canadian electrets think that Harper is nothing but a cheat and a f thug.:angryfire::angryfire::angryfire:

 

[Colpy]

Good day to you Colpy, what your Cons did in the house yesterday is nothing but
Absolutely irresponsible.

Reprehensible.

and Outrageous......

The Cons blinked and that is what happens to a bully when he faces fears opposition, he gets confused and starts to walk away like a wet dog. It looks good on them.
57% of the Canadian electrets think that Harper is nothing but a cheat and a f thug.:angryfire::angryfire::angryfire:

What did they do?????

Try to pull the lips of the left off the public teat?

Perhaps you should simply send them a cheque.

I'm boody tired of my money going to support the Separatist Party, the Naturally Demented Party, and those other guys.....if I want a political party to have success. I'll write them a cheque.....and have, often.

Why should I support your party?

 

[Trex]

My understanding is that Bloc won’t be part of the coalition, but will support the Lib-NDP government on an issue by issue bases. Bloc will certainly support the stimulus package; all the opposition parties seem to want that.

Then Bloc will support the government as and if it sees fit, basically Bloc is a party of the left and is expected to agree with the government on many issues. Besides, any bill except an economic bill is not a confidence vote, so even if the government is defeated, that won’t trigger an election.

If the coalition is formed, the first big test will be the budget. No doubt the coalition will pass some sort of stimulus package. Then can it form a common ground with the Bloc on the budget? If it can, it will stay in power for at least one year, until the 2010 budget.

It will also depend upon who leads the coalition. Somebody like Paul Martin, who has the national stature and a proven record of fixing the economic mess left by Mulroney, will probably last longer than somebody else.

Valid points for sure.
I posted on another thread how I figure it could happen, but what do I know?

There is no doubt that it is Jean Chrietien and Ed Broadbent are behind it at the moment.
So think Paul is out.
I agree with you about Paul Martin however my belief is that he would only be interested in leading the Liberal Party, at best, and probably not even that.

I feel to sell it to the GG Michelle Jean you would need at least the Bloq on board?
Seems to me she would never buy in without a demonstrable majority?
Beats me.
It would be one for the books for sure.
How do you pull it off without Harper dissolving government and putting it to the polls?

Trex

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Paul Martin seems to have already made it clear that he's quite content to drive his
tractor and play with his Grandchildren. He's set. He's retired. He's happy with
where he's at. He's out.

Ron, sure that is what he has said so far, especially in the context of running for Liberal leadership. However, the circumstances are exceptional; there is a dire need for somebody like him.

It was one thing for him to turn down the request to be a Liberal party leader and fight the next election in two years as the leader of the opposition. However, seeing how things may be falling apart in Ottawa, it is quite possible that he may change his mind, especially if he gets to be the PM right away.

If they are serious about a possible coalition, they should at least sound him out.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I feel to sell it to the GG Michelle Jean you would need at least the Bloc on board?
Seems to me she would never buy in without a demonstrable majority?
Beats me.

Trex, if the government really falls, nobody wants another election right away, including the GG. So she may give the Lib-NDP coalition the chance to form a government, especially if she has an understanding from the Bloc of tacit support.

If it works, well and good, we have avoided an election. If it doesn’t work, what have we lost? We will have another election in a few months’ time, instead of right away.

Either way, I think GG will (or at least should) give the coalition a chance to form a government.