CDN Election 2019

spilledthebeer

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An Early Voter’s Guide to Trudeau (Bad) and Scheer (Worse)

Don’t let negative partisanship trick you into backing Harper lite.




Wiser heads, including one senior diplomat, advised the PM to apologize to both Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott. It is called cutting your losses. Or as the old proverb has it, “No matter how far down the wrong road you go, turn back.”
Instead, Trudeau booted both women out of caucus, exacerbating his problems. Although the PM has set an apology record for Canadian leaders, he refused to say sorry for his role in railroading Canada’s first aboriginal justice minister out of office. Some reconciliation.
And now there is the case of Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, and the botched criminal investigation by the RCMP that ended in disgrace for the government.
According to published reports in the Globe and Mail, it was the PM who set in motion this half-assed, politically inspired RCMP dig into Norman that led to a single criminal charge against him for breach of trust — and two years of gratuitous agony for the accused.
The investigation was essentially a charade. None of the key witnesses from the Harper era were even interviewed by the RCMP, even though most of Norman’s alleged wrongdoings occurred under the previous government.
Just as bad from a justice perspective, the PCO and PMO did not provide requested documents to Norman’s defence team. For that, Marie Henein, who is part lawyer, part honey-badger, handed them their asses.
The criminal charge against her client was stayed, but the opposition fury is just beginning. Nor is it at all certain that Norman is finished telling his story. Like a depth charge, further developments could explode during the election campaign.
In getting the Mounties involved, Trudeau apparently acted out of frustration and anger that a cabinet document had leaked involving the planned delay of a $668-million ship contract with Davie shipyard in Quebec.
Even after the Norman criminal investigation triggered in part by Trudeau was underway, the PM publicly commented on the case, declaring that he thought it would end up in court. The PM was in essence predicting that Norman would be charged.


More: https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2019/05/..._content=052319-1&utm_campaign=editorial-0519






OH DEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SOMEBODY DID TRY to spay Cliffy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just listen to him yelping like a small dog with its nuggets caught in a vice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Cliffy

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Republicans in the US are criminalizing abortion. Canada’s Conservatives want to do the same.

Canadian Conservatives want to follow the example of right-wing Republicans


Andrew Scheer’s MPs backing extreme anti-choice group


At least 12 Conservative MPs attended a recent anti-choice rally, including Dave Van Kesteren of Chatham-Kent-Leamington, Kevin Sorenson, former Minister of State for Finance under Harper, and Harold Albrecht of Kitchener-Conestoga.

“Some in Parliament, from both sides of the aisle, including our prime minister, claim that abortion is a human right,” says Matt Wojciechowski, vice president of Campaign Life Coalition (CLC), a Toronto-based anti-choice lobby organization. “This is a lie. The killing of a child in the womb is not a right and no one has the right to kill another human being.”
He also said that the CLC wants women who face unplanned pregnancies to know that “abortion is not an option.”
Doug Ford’s MPPs pledge to “make abortion unthinkable”

At a Toronto March for Life on the same day, Niagara West MPP Sam Oosterhoff said he pledges to “make abortion unthinkable in our lifetime” and is keen on raising the issue in provincial parliament.

“I have no problem talking about the importance respecting life no matter how small the child is,” he said.



More: https://north99.org/2019/05/15/repu...ion-canadas-conservatives-want-to-do-the-same
 

taxslave

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Republicans in the US are criminalizing abortion. Canada’s Conservatives want to do the same.
Canadian Conservatives want to follow the example of right-wing Republicans
Andrew Scheer’s MPs backing extreme anti-choice group

At least 12 Conservative MPs attended a recent anti-choice rally, including Dave Van Kesteren of Chatham-Kent-Leamington, Kevin Sorenson, former Minister of State for Finance under Harper, and Harold Albrecht of Kitchener-Conestoga.
“Some in Parliament, from both sides of the aisle, including our prime minister, claim that abortion is a human right,” says Matt Wojciechowski, vice president of Campaign Life Coalition (CLC), a Toronto-based anti-choice lobby organization. “This is a lie. The killing of a child in the womb is not a right and no one has the right to kill another human being.”
He also said that the CLC wants women who face unplanned pregnancies to know that “abortion is not an option.”
Doug Ford’s MPPs pledge to “make abortion unthinkable”
At a Toronto March for Life on the same day, Niagara West MPP Sam Oosterhoff said he pledges to “make abortion unthinkable in our lifetime” and is keen on raising the issue in provincial parliament.
“I have no problem talking about the importance respecting life no matter how small the child is,” he said.
More: https://north99.org/2019/05/15/repu...ion-canadas-conservatives-want-to-do-the-same
Hardly an item to base an election on. Especially since the loony left tried the same fear tactic before Harper was elected and yet women are still free to chose.
 

pgs

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Hardly an item to base an election on. Especially since the loony left tried the same fear tactic before Harper was elected and yet women are still free to chose.
Yes the dreaded secret agenda .
 

Twin_Moose

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Hardly an item to base an election on. Especially since the loony left tried the same fear tactic before Harper was elected and yet women are still free to chose.

Yep and Scheer already spoke out about not reopening the matter, just trying to drag the US controversy into the Canadian election to create division.

Scheer Accuses Liberals Of ‘Trying To Import’ Abortion Fight From U.S.
 

Twin_Moose

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Exclusive: Canada's Conservative leader to drop pledge to balance budget in two years

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada's Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer on Friday plans to drop a previous pledge to balance the budget within two years if elected, saying Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Liberal government has made it impossible to do so responsibly.
Scheer, 40, is challenging Trudeau in an election set for October and polls show him leading nationally.
In a speech on his economic policy he will deliver at the Canadian Club in Vancouver, British Columbia on Friday, Scheer will promise to make a balanced budget part of his platform, but within about five years instead of two.
"In the last three years, Trudeau has made an even bigger mess of the budget than I thought possible... All of this has made it impossible for anyone to immediately and responsibly balance the budget," according to the text of the speech seen by Reuters on Thursday.
"Even the most optimistic projections don't have the Liberals balancing the budget for 20 more years ... But if Canadians elect a Conservative government this fall, we will balance the budget in about a quarter of that time," the text reads.
In 2015, Trudeau promised to balance the budget by this year, which he has not done. But even with the deficit, Canada's net debt-to-GDP ratio is lower than its G7 rivals and debt as a share of output is expected to decline over the coming years from about 31 percent currently.
Scheer's announcement on Friday will follow a major economic policy speech he gave in Toronto last week where he said he will rein in spending, build oil pipelines and put the country on a path to energy independence by 2030 if he is elected.
The decision also comes as Scheer's ally Doug Ford, the premier in Ontario, seeks to balance the budget of Canada's most populous province by 2023-24.
The Canadian Public Health Association and 10 former Ontario health ministers have complained that Ford's cuts undermine some public healthcare services, and pollster Frank Graves at Ekos Research said recent surveys have shown Ford's support is falling in Ontario.
"Ford has lost 11 percentage points since mid-January up to this week," Graves said, citing his own unpublished polls. "The Conservatives want to stop the bleeding in Ontario and keep it from spilling over to the rest of the country."
Canada's economy has slowed this year from last and the Bank of Canada late last month held interest rates steady and removed wording around the need for future hikes, while lowering its growth forecast for 2019.
"More moderate voters don't want there to be cuts in public spending that will lead to slowdown or a recession," Graves added.
 

Twin_Moose

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Scheer promises mandatory sentence of five years for child abuse

OTTAWA — Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer is pledging to get tough on crime with mandatory minimum sentences of five years for anyone convicted of abusing children.
Scheer, who made the announcement in a Montreal suburb this morning, says he will ensure sentences for sexual crimes against children take into account the length and severity of abuse.
He says wounds from sexual abuse last a lifetime, adding the penalty should "fit the crime" and that survivors need to be assured the federal government will ensure offenders are appropriately punished.
Scheer has been rolling out a series of policy announcements ahead of the October election as he works to define himself and his party with Canadians.
On Wednesday, he pledged funding for police, survivor services and public awareness to fight human trafficking, adding he will make changes to the Criminal Code to make it easier to convict people accused of it.
He's also in the middle of a five-speech series to lay out his views on issues such as foreign policy, the economy and the environment.
 

spilledthebeer

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Republicans in the US are criminalizing abortion. Canada’s Conservatives want to do the same.

Canadian Conservatives want to follow the example of right-wing Republicans


Andrew Scheer’s MPs backing extreme anti-choice group


At least 12 Conservative MPs attended a recent anti-choice rally, including Dave Van Kesteren of Chatham-Kent-Leamington, Kevin Sorenson, former Minister of State for Finance under Harper, and Harold Albrecht of Kitchener-Conestoga.

“Some in Parliament, from both sides of the aisle, including our prime minister, claim that abortion is a human right,” says Matt Wojciechowski, vice president of Campaign Life Coalition (CLC), a Toronto-based anti-choice lobby organization. “This is a lie. The killing of a child in the womb is not a right and no one has the right to kill another human being.”
He also said that the CLC wants women who face unplanned pregnancies to know that “abortion is not an option.”
Doug Ford’s MPPs pledge to “make abortion unthinkable”

At a Toronto March for Life on the same day, Niagara West MPP Sam Oosterhoff said he pledges to “make abortion unthinkable in our lifetime” and is keen on raising the issue in provincial parliament.

“I have no problem talking about the importance respecting life no matter how small the child is,” he said.



More: https://north99.org/2019/05/15/repu...ion-canadas-conservatives-want-to-do-the-same




LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FIRST CLASS LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Scheer has stated repeatedly that THERE WILL BE NO NEW ABORTION DEBATE under his watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Those few Conservatives who have made statements about abortion have all been told to SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Any new discussion of abortion is UNWANTED by Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that INCLUDES Conservatives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Cliffy is watching his beloved LIE-berals go down to defeat because of their MANY selfish, greedy and irresponsible FAILED POLICIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And thus HE TELLS LIES in a desperate attempt to bolster LIE-beral fortunes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All parties have a few NUT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And "nutjob" is a FAIR LABEL for any politician that wants to re-open the abortion debate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And HOW SAD FOR LIARS like Cliffy that HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT LIE-beral NUTJOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Shall we talk about LIE-beral MP Hedy Fry.....................................


who was FORCED TO APOLOGIZE in parliament for her SCREECHING MELT DOWN.............................................


during which she accused British Columbia of being a hot bed of Ku Klux Klan RACISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes..................Hedy stood in parliament and screeched "there are KKK Crosses BURNING AS WE SPEAK"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course it was a LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or we could discuss LIE-beral Iqra Khalid with her VILE ASSERTIONS about so called "Isalmophobia"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW SAD that LIE-beral nutjobs- who seem to be IN THE MAJORITY in the LIE-beral party.....................................


seem to think that CRIMINALIZING Islamophobia is a good idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To bad they CANNOT DEFINE ISlamophobia other than to make it clear you are Islamophobic if you OPPOSE LIE-beral policy on any issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Islamophobia is NOT ABOUT FREEDOM.................................LIE-berals have made it perfectly CLEAR that Islamophobia is tool and a WEAPON to be used to LEGALLY SILENCE Critics of LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the ENTIRE LIE-beral party supports this Third World style Banana Republic style erosion of free speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or we could discuss LIE-beral Maryam Monseff who had her own screeching melt down in our parliament!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Monseff was in charge of the commission on LIE-beral Electoral Reform.....................................


that VILE AND SNEAKY LIE-beral plan to paralize our parliament and turn it into an out of control spending machine with no off switch and no way for any single party to gather enough power to halt the spending madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Conservative members on the committee recognized the INSIDIOUS NATURE of the vile LIE-beral plan and refused to rubber stamp it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Instead Conservative committee members insisted that the Electoral Reform SCAM should be put to a national referendum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


At which point Monseff had her screeching melt down because she KNEW ...........................................


as did Conservatives that the LIE-beral Electoral SCAM WOULD NEVER BE APPROVED by Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Three times in the recent past - provincial govts in British Columbia have held referendums on LIE-beral Electoral Reform and THREE TIMES IT HAS BEEN DEFEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIAR CLIFFY singles out a couple of nutbars in the Conservative party..............................................................


while at the same time CLIFFY IGNORES the COLLECTIVE MADNESS of the ENTIRE LIE-beral party as they FAIL to defend their anti free speech Islamophobia insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fail to defend their anti white privilege HYSTERIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fail to defend their RACIST SUPPORT of Idle NO More native drunkards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fail to offer up justification for running up STAGGERING DEBT LOADS in what they CLAIM is a "booming economy"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fail to explain why LIE-berals believe the bloody handed Beijing Dictators should make better friends and trading partners than ELECTED Yankee leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fail to explain how throwing open the borders to a horde if illegals that we will NEED to supply massive govt aid to for MANY DECADES because of their deficiencies of language and education!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fail to explain why we should EXCUSE thugs and gangsters running wild in the streets simply because they had SAD CHILDHOODS!!!!!!!!!!!!


POOR CLIFFY..............................


HE HAS NO HONEST REBUTTAL ...........................................................


to anything that Cdns do not like about LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

pgs

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I think it is more about guaranteed monetary commitments than the civil servants, probably a lot to do with social infrastructure ;)
Our largest federal commitments are debt servicing and federal payroll . Cutting or controlling the size of the bureaucracy is necessary to balance the budget .
 

Decapoda

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An Early Voter’s Guide to Trudeau (Bad) and Scheer (Worse)
Don’t let negative partisanship trick you into backing Harper lite.


It's not like this is an uncommon strategy. In fact I seem to recall trudeau's vacuously absent platform until he finally released it on October 5th, 2015...2 weeks before the last election...and it still was void of much detail beyond the promise of 3 years of deficit spending followed by a balanced budget in 2019.

Justin Trudeau: No party platform until 2015


Justin Trudeau has identified what’s ailing Canada’s middle class but he won’t be rushed into offering any prescriptions.

The Liberal leader says that will have to wait until the party unveils its platform for the 2015 election.
“This is not something to take lightly,” he said during a break in a Liberal caucus retreat aimed at plotting strategy for the resumption of Parliament this fall and beyond.

...

During the (Liberal) leadership, Trudeau similarly argued that platform development should be a bottom-up exercise, not something handed down from on high. Rival contenders complained that he was offering little but vague platitudes but their criticism found little traction among Liberal rank and file, who elected Trudeau by a landslide.
 

spilledthebeer

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Our largest federal commitments are debt servicing and federal payroll . Cutting or controlling the size of the bureaucracy is necessary to balance the budget .






I call BULLSH+T on that statement about controlling the size of civil service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There are two things WRONG with the statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


First- it is not as important how many civil service union HOGS there are...........................................


as compared to HOW MUCH THEY GET PAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hogs get ONE THIRD MORE than ordinary Cdns DOING THE SAME JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that DOES NOT INCLUDE for their solid gold pensions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Secondly the MAJOR REASON why we have so little control over the HOGS.............................................................


is because of their GROTESQUE CONFLICT OF INTEREST in being able to VOTE directly for their own BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The kid stocking shelves at the supermarket GETS TOLD what wage to store will pay - and take it or leave it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The HOG gets into a voting booth and elects the LIE-beral swine who offers up the MOST GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is a HUGE DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And this double standard has now BEEN CHALLENGED by the Cdn Silent Majority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That mass of apathetic dorks who did not think it mattered if they did not vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ad the Silent Majority left the series of elections to the HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But now the Silent Majority has CLUED IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the HOGS think that there is something WRONG with our democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because LIE-berals and HOGS THINK they are some sort of grossly entitled political ROYALTY that can NEVER be removed from power because they ARE ENTITLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



As I have pointed out before - if the head of General Motors offered each worker a bonus for each Conservative vote cast..................


LIE-berals and their imbecile cousins of NDP would scream the house down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Meaning MORE DOUBLE STANDARD FOR HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Twin_Moose

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Wilson-Raybould, Philpott won't run as Greens in fall election

Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott will not run as Green Party candidates in the fall election, CBC News has learned.
The two former Liberal cabinet ministers spoke with Green Party Leader Elizabeth May several times about possibly running for her party.
Wilson-Raybould also attended May's wedding in Victoria at the end of April, stoking rumours that she might jump to the Greens.
Wilson-Raybould currently sits as an independent MP for Vancouver Granvillle and Philpott for Markham-Stouffville.
The two women quit the Liberal cabinet over the government's handling of the SNC-Lavalin affair — which went public early in the year after Wilson-Raybould accused senior officials in Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government of pressuring her inappropriately to allow the Quebec-based engineering firm to avoid a trial on corruption charges. They were subsequently kicked out of the Liberal caucus on April 2.
Getting two high-profile ex-Liberals to run for the Greens — especially ones so closely tied to the biggest political scandal to face the Trudeau government — would have given May extra horsepower heading into this election season.
The Greens have been surging recently. On Monday, May will officially welcome the party's second MP into the House of Commons. Paul Manly will be sworn in after winning the recent Nanaimo-Ladysmith byelection in British Columbia with a comfortable majority.
The Greens also have seen an uptick in support in recent provincial elections. In P.E.I., the party took over as the Official Opposition after winning nine seats in April. Ontario voted in its first Green MPP this year. And in 2017, the party won three seats in B.C., giving it the balance of power in the province.
It isn't clear yet if Wilson-Raybould or Philpott will run as independents. Historically, about one-third of Canadian MPs have successfully been re-elected as independents after leaving their parties.

Scheer accuses Trudeau of 'stacking the deck' to get re-elected

OTTAWA — Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer says the Liberals' decision to name an anti-Conservative union to a panel that will decide which media outlets receive government funding is the latest example of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau "stacking the deck" in his favour to get re-elected in October.
In an interview with The Canadian Press Sunday, Scheer said he believes the decision to include Unifor on the panel — which will determine eligibility for a $595-million bailout package — undermines the credibility of the panel's work.
"There's no reason for Unifor to be on this panel. They are a very aggressive, partisan group with very aggressive and partisan goals, even as late as a couple of days ago attacking Conservatives and me personally, and yet Justin Trudeau has decided to put this group on the panel," Scheer said.
"That is completely unacceptable."
Unifor has campaigned against the Conservative party and, in November, published tweets calling itself Scheer's "worst nightmare."
Earlier this week, the union's national president Jerry Dias said the Conservative leader is trying to undermine confidence in a free and independent press by raising concern about Unifor's presence on the panel. Dias compared Scheer's tactics to those employed by U.S. President Donald Trump...………...Much More