Canadian forces Recruiting 'Center'?

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Mole hill...mountain....

Much ado about nothing......

For some people it is just a mole hill and nothing really big to worry about.... for others, depending on their jobs like the job of the person who created the sign in the original topic, it's indeed an important issue and is the difference between one paycheque or one paycheque that leads to additional paycheques in the future.

It's no different then most people not really giving a damn about the poly count of a 3D model in a video game (so long as it looks cool) compared to the actual company who needs to be strict about that model's poly count due to additional models being processed by a computer system at the same time and the amount of resources it can demand from that system. (ie: system requirements being noted on a box, etc.)

Same with 3D rendering for movies..... if your model's poly count is unnecessarily high because you don't know how to optimize your designs, then that can make a huge impact on how long it takes the systems to render each frame, which can also eventually cut into your deadline.

Average citizens viewing something don't normally care about the finer details, so long as something works (ie: a sign that tells you something) But it's a big deal to those creating those signs...... being more professional then the next company can make a big difference in if a client chooses you or your competition. Your businesses' professionalism reflects in your work, which in turn reflects on your client.... ie: what Machjo was talking about when he saw the sign in question.

More people notice these things then some realize and more often then not, it's usually the little things that affect a customer's decisions and views of a company..... in other words, if your business has poor grammar and spelling in its name, its signs or its advertisements, then you begin to think that they either didn't pay much attention or simply don't care about how their business is expressed to the public..... and if they don't pay attention or simply don't care about how their own business looks to others, what makes you think they're going to pay attention, let alone care about your needs?
 
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Machjo's job depends upon how the MoD spells "center"? wow ;)

Funny how some people's Canadian Identity hinges upon something like spelling instead of honor or loyalty or something.
 

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For some people it is just a mole hill and nothing really big to worry about.... for others, depending on their jobs like the job of the person who created the sign in the original topic, it's indeed an important issue and is the difference between one paycheque or one paycheque that leads to additional paycheques in the future.
According to you and Mach maybe.

The rest of the world would look at it like, oops.

It's no different then most people not really giving a damn about the poly count of a 3D model in a video game (so long as it looks cool) compared to the actual company who needs to be strict about that model's poly count due to additional models being processed by a computer system at the same time and the amount of resources it can demand from that system. (ie: system requirements being noted on a box, etc.)

Same with 3D rendering for movies..... if your model's poly count is unnecessarily high because you don't know how to optimize your designs, then that can make a huge impact on how long it takes the systems to render each frame, which can also eventually cut into your deadline.
Ummm, ya. Two totally different things. If centre had a completely different meaning then center, I'd agree, somewhat. It doesn't, so I don't.

You're actually trying to compare how something taxes a system, to the minor misspelling of a word. I can't even imagine how that remotely equates as similar.

Average citizens viewing something don't normally care about the finer details, so long as something works (ie: a sign that tells you something) But it's a big deal to those creating those signs and being more professional then the next company can make a big difference in if a client chooses you or your competition.
Sure, if you say so. I've paid for signage on buildings and vehicles. If the mistake of spelling center, instead of centre was made. I wouldn't give a rats ass. I certainly wouldn't be such an anal dick as to make the company fix the mistake. That way next time I buy a new vehicle and need some vinyls made up, I'll get treated really well. Not that I haven't in the past.

Again, much ado about nothing.

More people notice these things then some realize and more often then not, it's usually the little things that affect a customer's decisions and views of a company.....
Not really. I base my views on customer service, quality and availability.

in other words, if your business has poor grammar and spelling in its name, its signs or its advertisements, then you begin to think that they either didn't pay much attention or simply don't care about how their business is expressed to the public.....
To some jackass with no life maybe. To me it's a typo. Life's far to short to make that much out of it.
and if they don't pay attention or simply don't care about how their own business looks to others, what makes you think they're going to pay attention, let alone care about your needs?
You should change your nic to "Stretch 2.0".

Funny how some people's Canadian Identity hinges upon something like spelling instead of honor or loyalty or something.
That's my take on it too.
 

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OED says meter and metre are both correct spellings.

The OED is not the definitive source on terms for weights and measures, if you want to be technically correct.

Average citizens viewing something don't normally care about the finer details, so long as something works (ie: a sign that tells you something) But it's a big deal to those creating those signs...... being more professional then the next company can make a big difference in if a client chooses you or your competition. Your businesses' professionalism reflects in your work, which in turn reflects on your client.... ie: what Machjo was talking about when he saw the sign in question.

My theory on signs and ads is that if there are spelling and grammar mistakes, the company doesn't do details well. If they don't do details well, they may not be the people I want to do business with.

Your signage is your public face - if you and your customers really don't care if you come across as sloppy and careless, it doesn't matter if your signs have mistakes on them. But lots of people notice, and to them, it shows how much you, as a business owner, care.

Did you know that the clothing company Lands' End is named that way because of a typo when the company was created?
 

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My theory on signs and ads is that if there are spelling and grammar mistakes, the company doesn't do details well. If they don't do details well, they may not be the people I want to do business with.

Your signage is your public face - if you and your customers really don't care if you come across as sloppy and careless, it doesn't matter if your signs have mistakes on them. But lots of people notice, and to them, it shows how much you, as a business owner, care.

Did you know that the clothing company Lands' End is named that way because of a typo when the company was created?
OK Ten Penny, I can understand if the sign has a gross spelling error.

But honestly, would you make a big deal or formulate a negative opinion of the company over the spelling of the word center/re?

I mean seriously, I see tons of signage in Scarberia, much of which is spelled incorrectly or uses extremely poor grammar. The foods still taste great. The electronics still work, and I'll tell you what, the customer service is leaps and bounds above say Walmart, Sears, The Bay, and so on.

Even if I can barely understand the person on the other side of the counter, lol.
 

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But honestly, would you make a big deal or formulate a negative opinion of the company over the spelling of the word center/re?

If it was part of the company's name, and was spelled the other way, yes.

But other than that, I take them as interchangable. Although I would expect that our gov't would take as much effort to pick the right spelling of words as they take to ensure that everything is bilingual.

In this particular case, I doubt that I would have noticed.
 

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If it was part of the company's name, and was spelled the other way, yes.
Actually, ya, I would agree with you 100% on that one. But I've actually seen that in Markham/Scarberia.

But other than that, I take them as interchangable. Although I would expect that our gov't would take as much effort to pick the right spelling of words as they take to ensure that everything is bilingual.
You would assume so.

In this particular case, I doubt that I would have noticed.
I can honestly say I likely wouldn't have noticed either. If asked why, because it isn't all that important really.
 

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Then you should have mentioned something about consistency in your OP, not something about spelling correctness.

In Canadian English, 'center' is a misspelling, just as 'centre' is in US English.

Machjo's job depends upon how the MoD spells "center"? wow ;)

Funny how some people's Canadian Identity hinges upon something like spelling instead of honor or loyalty or something.

Ya, meibi yur rait, Anna. Wi shud phokus an mor important stuf laik onor and stuff, an not sili thangz laik spelin.
 

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To be technically correct, 'kilo' is always pronounced 'keelo', so the old habit of saying 'kuh lom eter' is an incorrect pronunciation, but quite common.

The official spelling is 'metre', except in the US where the official spelling is 'meter'


Hence........peter meter?? Petremetre?? Saltpeter........petre. Saint Petre.

:glasses11:deep, eh.:bunny:

Ya, well, if you are bored, stir up some shyte, man!

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Machjo's job depends upon how the MoD spells "center"? wow ;)

Once again completely missing the point and trolling.... my point was that his own example of noticing this issue as an average joe going by the sign is just one example among many more people who notice these things..... you probably wouldn't..... many others do.

I never said it was his job, get a clue.

Funny how some people's Canadian Identity hinges upon something like spelling instead of honor or loyalty or something.

Ah.... Honor and Loyalty....

TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!!!! WE BE CANADIAN KLINGONS!!!! YAAARRRRRR!!! :roll:

It has nothing to do with my Canadian Identity, it's part of my damn job, which you clearly haven't figured out yet even though it's been explained to you countless times already.

I explain to you exactly what my position is on the subject, I explain to you the differences between the two forms of spelling and why they are the way they are, I even explained to you why the sign is incorrect as someone who does this sh*t as a part of his everyday job.... I even prove you wrong in regards to your Oxford Dictionary reference...... and then suddenly you try and troll it around as being about Canadian Identity and lack of Honor and Loyalty or something stupid? :roll:

Get over yourself princess.
 

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According to you and Mach maybe.

The rest of the world would look at it like, oops.

The rest of the world, except Britain, Australia, and most other Commonwealth nations that speak english around the world.

Despite popular opinion, the US is not "The rest of the World"

Ummm, ya. Two totally different things. If centre had a completely different meaning then center, I'd agree, somewhat. It doesn't, so I don't.
You're actually trying to compare how something taxes a system, to the minor misspelling of a word. I can't even imagine how that remotely equates as similar.[/quote]

No, I was trying to compare how the average joe on the street views something that they normally don't know all the inner workings to something, compared to professionals who's job is to ensure something is done right and should know better then the average joe because, once again, it's their job.

Machjo's observations are a perfect example of what happens when the professionals drop the ball..... a minor example, but still a perfect example none the less.

Sure, if you say so. I've paid for signage on buildings and vehicles. If the mistake of spelling center, instead of centre was made. I wouldn't give a rats ass. I certainly wouldn't be such an anal dick as to make the company fix the mistake. That way next time I buy a new vehicle and need some vinyls made up, I'll get treated really well. Not that I haven't in the past.
Of course there are the odd clients out there who don't give a rat's ass what their advertising looks like.... and for them, they usually don't realize exactly how much business they really lose over something as trivial as spelling, because they're not educated in picking up on those things...... the designer is.... or at least supposed to be.

Like it or not, there are "Anal Dicks" out there who will base their decisions on seeking your business over such things as misspellings and how your advertisements (signs, flyers, vehicle graphics, etc.) are laid out and/or designed..... and it is no different then going out there with a resume that's completely disorganized and has spelling mistakes all throughout it.

If I see a crappy resume, I'm not going to consider that person for a job..... just as if I see a business with shoddy advertisements, I'm not going to waste my money or time on them.

I'm sure you will respond that your company gets plenty of business and makes plenty of money..... yet with a few of these "Anal Dick" modifications and correcting as many mistakes as possible (no matter how minor) you might be surprised at how much more you could be getting.

Then again, you as the business owner do have the final say and can choose whatever you want for your company..... but it's the customers who choose who they spend their money on and many of those customers do base their judgments on silly things like your logo, if your commercials are annoying, if they can read your vehicle graphics easily as your vehicle drives by, etc.

Oh and if you properly checked the proof supplied prior to it being produced, in regards to the vehicle graphics mentioned in your above quote, there wouldn't be any correction needed in the first place..... which is why proofs exist in the first place..... if the company you are getting signage from doesn't supply proofs before making your signage, then that's an even better example that they're amateur as all hell.

Not really. I base my views on customer service, quality and availability.
You do..... many others do not..... and that company's "quality" should be reflected in their advertising.

To some jackass with no life maybe. To me it's a typo. Life's far to short to make that much out of it.
Life's too short to spend two damn seconds in making sure your work that you're getting paid to do is spelled properly?

If life is that too short, then why are you wasting your life posting in here? :roll:

My theory on signs and ads is that if there are spelling and grammar mistakes, the company doesn't do details well. If they don't do details well, they may not be the people I want to do business with.

Exactly the point I am trying to make, thank you.

Obviously CDNBear doesn't care about such details and doesn't give a damn about how his business is portrayed to the public and if that's the case, I wouldn't do business with his company either for the same reasons you mentioned above.

Your signage is your public face - if you and your customers really don't care if you come across as sloppy and careless, it doesn't matter if your signs have mistakes on them. But lots of people notice, and to them, it shows how much you, as a business owner, care.
Once again quite correct.

Did you know that the clothing company Lands' End is named that way because of a typo when the company was created?
Can't say I ever heard of them.

I think you're still making a bigger deal than is actually really needed here...mountain....mole hill...

As I already said before, I agree.... to the "average citizen" (But not all) yes it is just a mountain out of a molehill and isn't all that important..... Nor am I in here trying to force or suggest that everybody should give a damn about how it's spelled.

As it being a part of my job and professionally speaking, the question was asked and I figured I'd give a legit response and explanation about the subject.

....... but for my job and for the Canadian Government, it's a bigger deal then the average citizen would care to consider.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't care how you word yourself or spell in your private lives, but for you, CDNBear, if I was doing work for your business, while you may not really care, I would personally be doing you a disservice to you and your business if I didn't take these things into consideration.

Good idea Prince.
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What a whole lot of hot air for something so trivial. You just don't get it do ya?

The rest of the world, except Britain, Australia, and most other Commonwealth nations that speak english around the world.

Despite popular opinion, the US is not "The rest of the World"
I guess you don't understand the definition of "oops" eh?
No, I was trying to compare how the average joe on the street views something that they normally don't know all the inner workings to something, compared to professionals who's job is to ensure something is done right and should know better then the average joe because, once again, it's their job.
That's awesome. And I still think passing judgment over er/re is a waste of energy.

Machjo's observations are a perfect example of what happens when the professionals drop the ball..... a minor example, but still a perfect example none the less.
It's less than minor.
Of course there are the odd clients out there who don't give a rat's ass what their advertising looks like.... and for them, they usually don't realize exactly how much business they really lose over something as trivial as spelling, because they're not educated in picking up on those things...... the designer is.... or at least supposed to be.
China town is a prime example of how that theory fails.
Like it or not, there are "Anal Dicks" out there who will base their decisions on seeking your business over such things as misspellings and how your advertisements (signs, flyers, vehicle graphics, etc.) are laid out and/or designed..... and it is no different then going out there with a resume that's completely disorganized and has spelling mistakes all throughout it.
Awesome, and I don't disagree necessarily. I'm bigger then that tough. I don't care if someones resume is as dyslexic as it can be. If he can weld and holds certs, then he's OK by me.

If I see a crappy resume, I'm not going to consider that person for a job..... just as if I see a business with shoddy advertisements, I'm not going to waste my money or time on them.
Like I said, I'm bigger then that.

I'm sure you will respond that your company gets plenty of business and makes plenty of money..... yet with a few of these "Anal Dick" modifications and correcting as many mistakes as possible (no matter how minor) you might be surprised at how much more you could be getting.

Then again, you as the business owner do have the final say and can choose whatever you want for your company..... but it's the customers who choose who they spend their money on and many of those customers do base their judgments on silly things like your logo, if your commercials are annoying, if they can read your vehicle graphics easily as your vehicle drives by, etc.

Oh and if you properly checked the proof supplied prior to it being produced, in regards to the vehicle graphics mentioned in your above quote, there wouldn't be any correction needed in the first place..... which is why proofs exist in the first place..... if the company you are getting signage from doesn't supply proofs before making your signage, then that's an even better example that they're amateur as all hell.
I see you missed the point entirely.

You do..... many others do not..... and that company's "quality" should be reflected in their advertising.
Sure, I agree with you. But if you rate a company on the spelling of center, I suggest you get help. That kind of anal tendency can't be healthy.

Life's too short to spend two damn seconds in making sure your work that you're getting paid to do is spelled properly?
No, making such a big deal out of the spelling of center. Try and keep up and stick to the context of the discussion.

If life is that too short, then why are you wasting your life posting in here? :roll:
Again, you've missed the point Prince.

As I already said before, I agree.... to the "average citizen" (But not all) yes it is just a mountain out of a molehill and isn't all that important..... Nor am I in here trying to force or suggest that everybody should give a damn about how it's spelled.
Yes you are, lmao!!!

As it being a part of my job and professionally speaking, the question was asked and I figured I'd give a legit response and explanation about the subject.
And then disagree with anyone that says the spelling of center really bears no weight on the quality of the service.

....... but for my job and for the Canadian Government, it's a bigger deal then the average citizen would care to consider.
According to you. You might want to peruse the Liberal web site.

Nothing more, nothing less.
If you say so, but you could have said less.

I don't care how you word yourself or spell in your private lives, but for you, CDNBear, if I was doing work for your business, while you may not really care, I would personally be doing you a disservice to you and your business if I didn't take these things into consideration.
Sure if you misspelled my name or my service. If I needed the word center in my name I wouldn't give a rats ass. As I drove through Keswick yesterday, I noticed many centers. It made me laugh. People like you and Mach would blow a gasket!

This is what it feels like...... When Doves Cry.
Is that how you felt when you said it to Anna?
 
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The OED is not the definitive source on terms for weights and measures, if you want to be technically correct.
lmao
Spelling is not a weight and measure. The OED is the definitive word on the English language. Scientists could call meters "kdrufhvs" if they want, but it still has to be spelled and one of the languages it is spelled in is English. Science's realm does not include spelling in languages.



My theory on signs and ads is that if there are spelling and grammar mistakes, the company doesn't do details well. If they don't do details well, they may not be the people I want to do business with.

Your signage is your public face - if you and your customers really don't care if you come across as sloppy and careless, it doesn't matter if your signs have mistakes on them. But lots of people notice, and to them, it shows how much you, as a business owner, care.
There's no mistake with the recruitment ad. Ask an expert. Do you know any English profs?

Did you know that the clothing company Lands' End is named that way because of a typo when the company was created?
Nope. But, now I'm going to look it up. I get stuff from them sometimes. It's products are good quality, as a rule.
 

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There's no mistake with the recruitment ad. Ask an expert. Do you know any English profs?

Do you know any grade 3 teachers?
First off, I didn't say there was any mistake in it.
Second, it's not an ad, it's a sign.

Third, weights and measures, the names, abbreviations, symbols and uses are specified by various international standards bodies. The OED can say whatever it wants to, but the official names, spellings, abbreviations, and meanings of units of weights and measures are specified elsewhere, and are the legal definitions.