Canadian 9/11 Petition for Parliament

petros

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No.

Have you ever watched a rail crew weld a rail line together with thermite? Clay crucible. It wasn't as if it was a big secret.

Commonsense and linear thinking isn't exactly something that can be shaken into someone. You'd end up with something akin to shaken baby syndrome for adults.
No? So he didn't cut flanges, cut bolts, or weaken any box colums with thermate like all the "experts" and "debunkers" said was impossible? What did he do then? Fake it off camera?
 

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No? So he didn't cut flanges, cut bolts, or weaken any box colums with thermate like all the "experts" and "debunkers" said was impossible?
That's not the question you asked. And the answer is still no.

What did he do then?
Used thermate in a controlled setting, with an improvised device, that there is no evidence of in the wreckage, to cut some steel.

That's not what the claims are, are they?

First it was thermite. It was shown that even under the best of conditions, it would require substantial amounts and an unprecedented amount of man hours to place in the building.

Then it became nano thermite, a compound used for micro welding. Without sufficient energy to do what is claimed. Not to mention, a compound still on the work bench at the time of the attacks.

Fake it off camera?
No, use the wrong material in a best circumstance, controlled setting. With devices that would have left an evidence trail that Mr. Magoo could have followed.
 

DaSleeper

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Putting thermite in the construction of several buildings several years before, in anticipation that someday two airplanes would someday fly into them ...Is a stretch. But if you really believe that....it would mean that there must be several more buildings in New york already set up for demolition that way...
New Yorkers Beware......
 

petros

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That's not the question you asked. And the answer is still no.

Used thermate in a controlled setting, with an improvised device, that there is no evidence of in the wreckage, to cut some steel.

That's not what the claims are, are they?

First it was thermite. It was shown that even under the best of conditions, it would require substantial amounts and an unprecedented amount of man hours to place in the building.

Then it became nano thermite, a compound used for micro welding. Without sufficient energy to do what is claimed. Not to mention, a compound still on the work bench at the time of the attacks.

No, use the wrong material in a best circumstance, controlled setting. With devices that would have left an evidence trail that Mr. Magoo could have followed.
Who cares what the compound was. It worked and it worked exceptionally well. I could careless about the logistics of installing such devices.

It was done, you've seen it done and if you wanted to replicate his experiments and disprove them I'd love to see it.

You can run a bead can't you?
 

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We both could replicate what he did even though it was said to be impossible and that is what is important.
Ya whatever dude, you made it clear that the fact that he did something that wasn't a secret, with a compound that wasn't the one that was claimed to have been used, using methods that would have been found by a blind man, are not important.

I concede. It was obviously an inside job. Using thermate...er...thermite...er...nano thermits...or a blue waffle.
 

petros

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Ya whatever dude, you made it clear that the fact that he did something that wasn't a secret, with a compound that wasn't the one that was claimed to have been used, using methods that would have been found by a blind man, are not important.

I concede. It was obviously an inside job. Using thermate...er...thermite...er...nano thermits...or a blue waffle.
Justify it all you want and in fill in all the blanks you want.

He did what was said to be impossible.
 

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Justify it all you want and in fill in all the blanks you want.
Fill in what blanks? The nutters have made their claims. Nano thermite. Not thermate, not thermite.

He did what was said to be impossible.
He did what highspeed railways have been doing for years. He used a steel container, compared to the clay crucible used by MOW.

You seem to be confusing, "impossible on this scale", with "completely impossible".
 

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9/11 was an inside job, remember the demolition was recorded by an Israeli camera crew in NY for that express purpose. Security at all the involved airports was Israeli. Conspiracy is obvious except to those who accept the record number of coincident flaws as regular "**** happens" these individuals are A/ stupid beyond belief B/actors for hire C/ Israelis. Wake up people buildings do not explode without explosives. If there were no explosives there would still be buildings. Simple as that is that is the way it was. Little tiny aluminum bags called airplanes cannot run into enormous concrete and steel buildings and destroy them. Except in Stupidbeyondbeliefville.
 
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darkbeaver

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In a very real sense we are petitioning the agents and allies of the crime. Their silence to date condemns them as benificiaries of murder and treason. They are also without reservation guilty of the deaths of many Canadian soldiers and the great expense undertaken to defeat a non existant enemy of the state. I don't expect anything to change because of petitions except the hearts and minds of those brave people willing to challenge authority and power. 9/11 is certainly not the first nor the greatest act of treason in what will be described as the age of treason.
 

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9/11 was an inside job, remember the demolition was recorded by an Israeli camera crew in NY for that express purpose. Security at all the involved airports was Israeli. Conspiracy is obvious except to those who accept the record number of coincident flaws as regular "**** happens" these individuals are A/ stupid beyond belief B/actors for hire C/ Israelis. Wake up people buildings do not explode without explosives. If there were no explosives there would still be buildings. Simple as that is that is the way it was. Little tiny aluminum bags called airplanes cannot run into enormous concrete and steel buildings and destroy them. Except in Stupidbeyondbeliefville.
Concrete and masonry is another matter. That's how Empire State Building is constructed and it survived - albeit was struck by a much smaller B-25. WTC was steel tubes with aluminum and glass cladding
 

petros

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Fill in what blanks? The nutters have made their claims. Nano thermite. Not thermate, not thermite.

He did what highspeed railways have been doing for years. He used a steel container, compared to the clay crucible used by MOW.

You seem to be confusing, "impossible on this scale", with "completely impossible".
Nano-thermite would have worked much much better for his demo.
 

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What were the specs on those 'tubes'?


Air turbulence would blow a sheet away rather than grind it up into nano sized particles.
Simple.... Just look at a blueprint. Floors weren't structural. How do you think they got those wide open office spaces?

Did I say anything about nano-sized particles?
 

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Nano-thermite would have worked much much better for his demo.
So would a computer model based on physics rather than artistic desires. The math just needs to be plugged in, once the specs for the various grades are made available by the military.

Simple.... Just look at a blueprint. Floors weren't structural. How do you think they got those wide open office spaces?

Did I say anything about nano-sized particles?
There should be one just a few posts above, what is the 'weak link'. I see it as the bracing rather than the 'steel tubes' with bracing intact. Steel and concrete are both structural materials, the question is how robust were they. The joints would be their weak link so they would be stronger under compression than in a tug-of war. Hot steel will sag, hot concrete doesn't sag very much and it can absorb an awful lot of heat away from the steel components.

Do any reports mention particles that small? So far the argument seems to be on the 'raw unburned material' and not much on the round iron balls that need high heat to form.