So because the Norway projection suits your agenda, it's the one closer to the truth?
So you've said many times. keep looking for reasons as to why.
Canada says F-35s cost $14 B; Norway says they cost $40 B
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Norway has been more transparent than our government, and that figure represents the entire project.
Just because I realize this project is stupid, doesn't detract from the facts.
They have? Or is that what you think because they published a higher cost projection?
Do you have info that hasn't been present here yet?
So does Canada's projection, it just doesn't run the entire life of the aircraft.
By the way, I'm all for purchasing the new F 18. Not the F 35. Just in case were curious.
Fair enough. I think that would be a more reasonable purchase as well.
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$7 billion/65 jets= $107.7 million per plane
$107.7 million per plane/20 years = 5.4 million per plane per year
$107.7 million per plane/20 years = 5.4 million per plane per year
$26.8 billion/ 52 jets= $515.4 million per plane
$515.4 million per plane/ 25 years= $20.6 million per plane per year
$515.4 million per plane/30 years= $17.2 million per plane per year
Norway is estimating costs per plane per year that are 3.2 to 3.8 times more expensive on operation/maintenance than we have calculated. Maybe Norway plans on being in more active duty than we are? Or maybe our numbers are sandbagged to $hit? $515.4 million per plane/ 25 years= $20.6 million per plane per year
$515.4 million per plane/30 years= $17.2 million per plane per year
Who knows?
Well when Fantino is questioned repeatedly about the discrepancy and he just keeps pumping the party line, it doesn't lend much credibility to the Canadian government (or Harper government, whichever you prefer). Considering it is becoming a trend on the Tory side to brush off questions of accountability (see Clement's 'paper trail'), we should be getting it out there to press them harder on these budgetary issues.
The Harperites aren't telling us the true cost because we would revolt. Or at least vote them out...............
If that process is normal, Page said, then it's "broken. Completely broken. And wrong."
Officials gave one estimate to cabinet, he said, that included the full costs of the plane for the complete lifespan, but gave another estimate to MPs.
"To tell Parliament, effectively, to tell Canadians, that, well, actually it's a much smaller number, that's wrong," Page said.
Earlier in the day, Page testified at a committee that National Defence withheld information when he was preparing his controversial report on the costs of the F-35s, and he later indicated he thinks Canadians were misled about the true costs of buying the fighter jets.
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Kevin Page says defence purchasing 'broken' and 'wrong' - Politics - CBC News
Auditor General Michael Ferguson released a scathing report on April 3 that was highly critical of the way the F-35 file had been handled, particularly the Defence Department's failure to reveal that the fighter would cost Canada at least $25 billion — $10 billion more than it was reporting to Parliament and the public weeks before the last federal election.
The Conservative government has admitted it was aware of the larger price tag weeks before the last federal election, but MacKay's comments are the first acknowledgment cabinet approved the reporting of a lower figure to Canadians.
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Deputy ministers defend roles in F-35 costs - Politics - CBC News
BOEING HAS ANNOUNCED a whole series of up-grades and improvements to the Super Hornet, according to MILITARY.COM's article, "Super Hornets Could Launch Their Own UAVs". The object of the exercise is to increase survivability to allow a service life to 2040.
Super Hornets Could Launch Their Own UAVs | Military.com
Do check the rest of the article; it seems Boeing wants to do business, and is courting all the buyers of older F-18's as well as owners of the E and F variants.
But Stevie just has to ram the F-35 through Parliament. We can't afford it and we don't need it.
If that process is normal, Page said, then it's "broken. Completely broken. And wrong."
Officials gave one estimate to cabinet, he said, that included the full costs of the plane for the complete lifespan, but gave another estimate to MPs.
"To tell Parliament, effectively, to tell Canadians, that, well, actually it's a much smaller number, that's wrong," Page said.
Earlier in the day, Page testified at a committee that National Defence withheld information when he was preparing his controversial report on the costs of the F-35s, and he later indicated he thinks Canadians were misled about the true costs of buying the fighter jets.
more
Kevin Page says defence purchasing 'broken' and 'wrong' - Politics - CBC News
Auditor General Michael Ferguson released a scathing report on April 3 that was highly critical of the way the F-35 file had been handled, particularly the Defence Department's failure to reveal that the fighter would cost Canada at least $25 billion — $10 billion more than it was reporting to Parliament and the public weeks before the last federal election.
The Conservative government has admitted it was aware of the larger price tag weeks before the last federal election, but MacKay's comments are the first acknowledgment cabinet approved the reporting of a lower figure to Canadians.
more
Deputy ministers defend roles in F-35 costs - Politics - CBC News
BOEING HAS ANNOUNCED a whole series of up-grades and improvements to the Super Hornet, according to MILITARY.COM's article, "Super Hornets Could Launch Their Own UAVs". The object of the exercise is to increase survivability to allow a service life to 2040.
Super Hornets Could Launch Their Own UAVs | Military.com
Do check the rest of the article; it seems Boeing wants to do business, and is courting all the buyers of older F-18's as well as owners of the E and F variants.
But Stevie just has to ram the F-35 through Parliament. We can't afford it and we don't need it.
Air force contradicts itself on F-35 fighter jet options
Head of air force tells Canadian Press other planes not considered, later statement says that's not true
Air force contradicts itself on F-35 fighter jet options - Politics - CBC News
Head of air force tells Canadian Press other planes not considered, later statement says that's not true
Air force contradicts itself on F-35 fighter jet options - Politics - CBC News
So, the Norwegians were correct and the Harper Cons tried to Con us.........................
The cost of buying and servicing the F-35 stealth fighter jets that Ottawa has been planning to purchase has skyrocketed to about $40 billion, CTV News has learned.
Read more: Cost of buying, servicing F-35 fighter jets soars to $40B: sources | CTV News
The cost of buying and servicing the F-35 stealth fighter jets that Ottawa has been planning to purchase has skyrocketed to about $40 billion, CTV News has learned.
Read more: Cost of buying, servicing F-35 fighter jets soars to $40B: sources | CTV News
Doesn't matter anymore. The purchase has been canceled. This is what good government does, change with changing data rather than sticking with a bad plan because it iis their plan.
Now if we could just convince them to look after the more important purchases such as the Sea King replacements that should have been done twenty years ago.
Now if we could just convince them to look after the more important purchases such as the Sea King replacements that should have been done twenty years ago.
The CH -148 Cyclones aren't being built and delivered yet? I thought that went ahead with tenders and bid awards being made back at least 8-9 years ago if not longer?
Federal government cancels F-35 fighter purchase: source
Federal government cancels F-35 fighter purchase: source | canada.com
was this posted yet?
Federal government cancels F-35 fighter purchase: source | canada.com
was this posted yet?
I suggest something by Found (from Parry Sound) ... so our flying jockeys can get some flying time....