Canada dismal at protecting women from FGM

[taxslave]

Circumcision isn’t harmful. The government needs to butt out and mind its own business. The only reason the government bans female circumcision but allows male circumcision is because the latter has been normalized while the former hasn’t, though both are essentially the same thing. It is only outlawed because it is not part of White European culture. This is one of the things we intend to change by becoming politically more active. It is truly ridiculous that Muslim parents should be imprisoned for the decision to circumcise their child. Not all of us Muslims practice female circumcision, but a great many of us do, especially the Dawudi Bohra sect. Now just be-cause one sect doesn’t practice it and another does doesn’t mean the former should be apathetic. Curtailing someone’s religious expression is an attack on all religious expression. Religious groups must show solidarity in this regard. Once again I repeat the state is meddling in affairs of the family and parenting which is unacceptable. There is even a malicious movement based in San Francisco which wants to ban male infant circumcision. These people will never be satisfied until they enforce their version of acceptable human behavior upon the rest of us.

Yoou are retarded.

 

[TenPenny]

Circumcision isn’t harmful. The government needs to butt out and mind its own business. The only reason the government bans female circumcision but allows male circumcision is because the latter has been normalized while the former hasn’t, though both are essentially the same thing.

It is not the same thing at all. You obviously don't know anything about it.

 

[JLM]

It is not the same thing at all. You obviously don't know anything about it.

Speaking from experience I don't see harm in male circumcision.

 

[AMKiller]

Actually, Islam teaches nothing on the subject. I think it has more to do with ethnic traditions.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Female_Genital_Mutilation

As far as I have read it has happened 2 time in Canada and that is with a Muslim population of how many??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Canada
According to Canada's 2011 National Household Survey, there were 1,053,945 Muslims in Canada, or about 3.2% of the population, making Islam the second largest religion in the country after Christianity.

HTFuk does the OP get away with promoting that 2/1,053.945 as being 'dismal'. Perhaps it is like the stats to go with the Muslim hate group and there is one section of society that is behind it all.




So what's the deal with 2 being a 'dismal record'?? Do you belong to any groups that tend to seek out ways to condemn Muslims for everything that is anti-social??

The government can also be proactive when Muslims go overseas to have FGM's done.

Doctor's checkup for infections.

Teachers tell students to report parental abuse all the time.

Kids talk to other kids.

Circumcision isn’t harmful. The government needs to butt out and mind its own business. The only reason the government bans female circumcision but allows male circumcision is because the latter has been normalized while the former hasn’t, though both are essentially the same thing. It is only outlawed because it is not part of White European culture. This is one of the things we intend to change by becoming politically more active. It is truly ridiculous that Muslim parents should be imprisoned for the decision to circumcise their child. Not all of us Muslims practice female circumcision, but a great many of us do, especially the Dawudi Bohra sect. Now just be-cause one sect doesn’t practice it and another does doesn’t mean the former should be apathetic. Curtailing someone’s religious expression is an attack on all religious expression. Religious groups must show solidarity in this regard. Once again I repeat the state is meddling in affairs of the family and parenting which is unacceptable. There is even a malicious movement based in San Francisco which wants to ban male infant circumcision. These people will never be satisfied until they enforce their version of acceptable human behavior upon the rest of us.

It is mentally harmful for girls. Boys are circumcised as babies and don't remember anything about it. Girls are circumcised when they can remember the pain. Plus, while men don't feel any ill effects later on in life, women are unable to enjoy sex because of it.

Funny that you think government should not get involved in this but you think I should be fined because my dog, a member of my family, licks you.

 

[Colpy]

I think WU was demonstrating his earlier point that it's not a religious requirement, but a cultural tradition.

True. But it has been practically eliminated from Christian communities, except among tribes like the Masai in Africa.......and (according to an article I read) it is rapidly disappearing among Christian Masai........as it has no support from the church. In fact quite the opposite.

If certain groups of Muslim clerics would stop supporting it, it would soon disappear completely.

 

[AMKiller]

Actually, Islam teaches nothing on the subject. I think it has more to do with ethnic traditions.

Zulf seems to think it is a religious tradition as do many Imams.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

True. But it has been practically eliminated from Christian communities, except among tribes like the Masai in Africa.......and (according to an article I read) it is rapidly disappearing among Christian Masai........as it has no support from the church. In fact quite the opposite.

If certain groups of Muslim clerics would stop supporting it, it would soon disappear completely.

If certain groups of Muslim clerics would stop supporting it, it would diminish. I'm not so sure about complete disappearance, at least not anytime soon.

Once upon a time, people in the Middle East went from hunting to pastoralism. Before that, the link between sex and reproduction was unknown (it is non-obvious when you think about it). It was watching the sheep do their thing that caused it to gradually dawn on the shepherds that the lamb was not entirely a product of the ewe and the spirits, the ram had a lot to do with it. From there it was a fairly short leap to the idea that one's woman's children were actually one's children. Or would be if one ensured that no other man had access to one's woman. Easy answer, if you're a thoroughly unpleasant anus: deny all other men access to your woman.

The rest is history, and it pre-dates Islam, or Christianity, or Judaism, by millennia. And Islam (and Judaism and Christianity, by the way) adopted this cultural tradition the same way Christianity adopted Germanic paganism.

It was slow to die out even in the liberal West. In Europe and America, clitoridectomy was considered a valid treatment for "promiscuity" well into the 20th century. And immuring women also died out around the same time.

 

[EagleSmack]

It is not the same thing at all. You obviously don't know anything about it.

He knows.

 

[Danbones]

Circumcision isn’t harmful. The government needs to butt out and mind its own business. The only reason the government bans female circumcision but allows male circumcision is because the latter has been normalized while the former hasn’t, though both are essentially the same thing. It is only outlawed because it is not part of White European culture. This is one of the things we intend to change by becoming politically more active. It is truly ridiculous that Muslim parents should be imprisoned for the decision to circumcise their child. Not all of us Muslims practice female circumcision, but a great many of us do, especially the Dawudi Bohra sect. Now just be-cause one sect doesn’t practice it and another does doesn’t mean the former should be apathetic. Curtailing someone’s religious expression is an attack on all religious expression. Religious groups must show solidarity in this regard. Once again I repeat the state is meddling in affairs of the family and parenting which is unacceptable. There is even a malicious movement based in San Francisco which wants to ban male infant circumcision. These people will never be satisfied until they enforce their version of acceptable human behavior upon the rest of us.

ITS STILL GENITAL MUTILATION without the persons consent.
So if one is bad, the other is too on principle, and double for those not knowing that basic principle of life.

It is not the same thing at all. You obviously don't know anything about it.

Yeah, let someone hack off a boob for religion or ethnic (amazonian) reasons without asking, and then we will talk.
Though I find it interesting you find giving deadly herpes to a baby not dangerous, or bad.
That is INSANE!

I can see why you defend pedos though, now.

Then like WU said earlier, it isn't religious, it's ethnic, and the UN has the saudis running the UN human rights council on women?

The leftyrightycommisnaziglobalist hypocrisy knows no bounds.

 

[TenPenny]

I think that doctors in Canada should be required to report FGM as child abuse. Any doctor that sees a girl who has had the procedure done should be required to report the parents as child abusers, and the parents should be charged with abuse.


If the nutbar community objects, too bad. It's mutilation and needs to be stopped. Any doctor that performs it in Canada should be executed.

 

[DaSleeper]

Now you will be called a racist for thinking that way....

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I think that doctors in Canada should be required to report FGM as child abuse. Any doctor that sees a girl who has had the procedure done should be required to report the parents as child abusers, and the parents should be charged with abuse.


If the nutbar community objects, too bad. It's mutilation and needs to be stopped. Any doctor that performs it in Canada should be executed.

I agree with you, though this has other implications.

If the parents take the child out of Canada to be mutilated (I won't dignify it by calling it a "procedure"), then enforcing Canadian law on acts performed in another country is called "extraterritoriality of law."

The question then becomes whether or not Canada will enforce its other laws on acts performed outside Canadian authority.

Here's how you do it without opening that can of worms: define genital mutilation as torture. Torture is a violation of the jus cogens norms of customary international law, which means any jurisdiction can punish it, regardless of connection to the act.

 

[MHz]

Christians eat sh1t wherever they are.

I love the Bible a lot, Christians, . . . not so much. They fuk with your head you whole life so they are not free from being insane. FGM is not the same as circumcision, cut the whole dick off at the root and that is what FGM is. I'm also quite sure the parents are against it and it would vanish as soon as the hardliners do.

then enforcing Canadian law on acts performed in another country is called "extraterritoriality of law."

The question then becomes whether or not Canada will enforce its other laws on acts performed outside Canadian authority.

Here's how you do it without opening that can of worms: define genital mutilation as torture. Torture is a violation of the jus cogens norms of customary international law, which means any jurisdiction can punish it, regardless of connection to the act.

People wanting to have sex with children used to go to the far-east as it was anonymous, now people cannot travel that way the practice is way down. That is another angle that could be used to support what you are floating. Any act involving an adult and a child's sexual organs is a criminal act, that damage occurs would make it sexual mutilation where parents and others would be guilty. That would be very little comfort to the victim.

With 2 cases in Canada the education should be taking place back in their native lands, the same ones we bomb daily would be my best bet as to where the trouble spots are. Want to know why??