Can you really just ignore the constitution if you feel like it?

[Hoid]

 

[Colpy]

About nothing?

I believe BC may need to start notwithstanding some pipelines if it comes down to it.

BTW the American constitution may not have a notwithstading clause but it has a 2nd amendment which is paramount to all other laws. It over rules and invalidates all other rights and freedoms.

BTW the American constitution may not have a notwithstanding clause but it has a 2nd amendment which is paramount to all other laws. It over rules and invalidates all other rights and freedoms.

What?

Care to explain that bit of nonsense?

 

[mentalfloss]

(see above)

 

[Hoid]

And they continually forget or ignore the fact that ".........the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is the paramount law of the land.

 

[Colpy]

And they continually forget or ignore the fact that ".........the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is the paramount law of the land.

Sigh

Please, I beg of you, quit spouting off on subjects you know nothing about.

The Second Amendment is the paramount law of the land because it is part of the constitution, which is the paramount law of the land by definition.

I mean, really.

 

[Hoid]

Paramount.

I think maybe you don't know what that word means.

 

[JLM]

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. In some areas a few of the public schools aren't quite up to snuff and quite often the private school is able to provide a better education. So your contention is if a person is able to have a legitimate choice he should have to pay over and above for it!

T.P. I'm still waiting to hear if this is still your contention and if not why not?

 

[darkbeaver]

All of those free speech hating, SJWs are trying to abuse our constituti-- oh wait, it's actually Brad Wall and the Muslim haters.

Huh.



Can you really just ignore the constitution if you feel like it? Canada's notwithstanding clause explained

It’s been a big week for Canada’s famed notwithstanding clause. Quebec is hinting that it might use the clause to protect their new anti-niqab law from a federal court challenge.

And in Saskatchewan’s speech from the throne, outgoing premier Brad Wall again promised to use the clause to override a court order mandating that the provincial government stop paying for non-Catholics to go to Catholic school.

“We will introduce legislation that will protect the right to school choice by invoking the notwithstanding clause of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms,” it read.

The notwithstanding clause (section 33 of the Constitution Act) is exactly as strange as it sounds: It’s a magical section of the Canadian constitution that allows provincial governments to simply ignore a key section of the constitution if they don’t like it.

The only rule is that the governments have to first announce that they’re doing it. Specifically, they have to stand up in their legislature and announce that they’re going to pass an act “notwithstanding” whatever it says in the constitution.

What’s most surprising about the clause is that it allows provinces to override what are arguably the most important parts of the constitution: The “fundamental freedoms” and “legal rights” of Canadian citizens.

Freedom of religion, freedom of association, freedom of the press, protections from arbitrary imprisonment and search, “the right to life, liberty and security of the person” — all of these can technically be ignored by a provincial government provided they announce it first.

To be sure, the Constitution does insert a time limit on how long a province can get away with this. “A declaration … shall cease to have effect five years after it comes into force,” reads the clause.

However, this is easily overridden by the fact that the province can simply “re-enact” their constitution-flouting declaration.

Naturally, other democratic countries don’t this. As our own Library of Parliament notes in a summary, the idea of building an escape clause into a human rights code “appears to be a uniquely Canadian development.”

The Constitution of Japan specifically states that the document overrides every other “law, ordinance, imperial rescript or other act of government.” It’s a similar deal in South Africa, where the constitution is held as “supreme” and any other contradictory law is declared “invalid.”

The U.S. Constitution, which is taken particularly seriously by its adherents, definitively states that it “shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby.”

Can you really just ignore the constitution if you feel like it? Canada’s notwithstanding clause explained | National Post

Evening posts should be restricted to twenty words or so.

 

[JLM]

So tell me what was wrong with non-Catholics attending a Catholic school?

Not a thing, Pete. Religion is just a lot of imaginary sh*t anyway!

Right or wrong it's JMHO

And it's the correct opinion!

 

[mentalfloss]

Evening posts should be restricted to twenty words or so.

This topic required a bit more finesse and substantiation.

 

[TenPenny]

T.P. I'm still waiting to hear if this is still your contention and if not why not?

I don't know why you need me to repeat myself.


Public money to the public system. If you want something else, you pay out of pocket.


I said it quite clearly before.

 

[petros]

We do pay out of pocket.

 

[Colpy]

Paramount.

I think maybe you don't know what that word means.

par·a·mount
ˈperəˌmount/
adjective
adjective: paramount
more important than anything else; supreme.
"the interests of the child are of paramount importance"

Yes, I do have some competence in the understanding and use of the English language.

The Second Amendment and the Constitution are not two different things, they are the same thing.

 

[Hoid]

Good to see you trying.

 

[Colpy]

Good to see you trying.

......and succeeding.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

For what it's worth, to both sides:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land. . ."

U.S. Const., Art. VI, cl. 2 (emphasis mine).

Paramount is a film-making company.

 

[Colpy]

For what it's worth, to both sides:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land. . ."

U.S. Const., Art. VI, cl. 2 (emphasis mine).

Paramount is a film-making company.

Actually, "supreme" and "paramount" are synonyms.

But you knew that.

 

[petros]

maybe

 

[DaSleeper]

And I always thought the second amendment was to assure compliance with the first :wink::lol:

 

[TenPenny]

So there's no government funding for Catholic schools? This whole controversy is made up? Wow.