Can you really just ignore the constitution if you feel like it?

[TenPenny]

That works for me but I would add that parents should have a choice in which public school their kids go to

As long as the school has space and the parents provide the transportation.


In my city, high school kids can go to several high schools, but you are placed on a list based on when you select, so you may or may not get in, and depending on where you live, you may have to provide your own transportation to school.

 

[Jinentonix]

All of those free speech hating, SJWs are trying to abuse our constituti-- oh wait, it's actually Brad Wall and the Muslim haters.

Huh.

Blame Papa Trudeau, dumbass. He's the one that ultimately put the notwithstanding clause in the CoRF to appease Quebec.
In fact, a simple majority vote in any of Canada's 14 jurisdictions may suspend the core rights of the Charter. These include fundamental rights like freedom of speech/expression, religion, association. Or legal rights such as liberty, search and seizure and cruel and unusual punishment, or even a Section 15 equality right. However, other rights such as Section 6 mobility rights, democratic rights and language rights are inalienable.

My, how progressive of Trudeau, eh?

 

[JamesBondo]

Found the info I was looking for:

A Saskatchewan judge has ruled that the provincial government must stop paying for non-Catholic students to attend Catholic schools in the province.

Justice Donald Layh's far-reaching decision was released publicly Thursday afternoon.

It is set to take effect in June 2018, in recognition of its "significant repercussions," according to the ruling.

Layh wrote that funding "non-minority faith students" in Catholic schools violates both the Charter of Rights and "the state's duty of religious neutrality."

The ruling stands to upend the provincial government's current practice of paying for any students who attend Catholic schools, regardless of students' religious affiliations

In my opinion, Brad Wall's invoking the notwithstanding clause is a good idea.

 

[Cannuck]

As long as the school has space and the parents provide the transportation.


In my city, high school kids can go to several high schools, but you are placed on a list based on when you select, so you may or may not get in, and depending on where you live, you may have to provide your own transportation to school.

That works for me. In my case, I lived in "town A" and my oldest was put in a class with an epically incompetent teacher that had been moved around (because you can't get rid of bad teachers). There was no other option in "town A" because there was only one school and they would not allow me to put my kid in the public school in "town B". That town had a Catholic school so the choice was made.

 

[petros]

In SK you choose if you want your municipal taxes to fund the public school board or the Catholic school board if you send your kid to a private school you apply for taxes to fund the private school only to the equivalent of the other boards and pay the surplus yourself.

Everything was working just fine.

 

[JamesBondo]

Ultimately, the court ruling will cause many people to lie about their faith. A classic case where a court decision can be more disruptive to the freedom of religion than the problem it seeks to resolve.

 

[TenPenny]

In SK you choose if you want your municipal taxes to fund the public school board or the Catholic school board if you send your kid to a private school you apply for taxes to fund the private school only to the equivalent of the other boards and pay the surplus yourself.

Everything was working just fine.

That's a stupid idea. Fund one board, let all the religious people pay extra if they want special schools.

 

[Cannuck]

That's a stupid idea. Fund one board, let all the religious people pay extra if they want special schools.

I'm all for that if and when the public system becomes flexible and responsive

 

[petros]

That's a stupid idea. Fund one board, let all the religious people pay extra if they want special schools.

Do you know what is stupider? Religious people who aren't Catholic attending the public system.

 

[pgs]

That's a stupid idea. Fund one board, let all the religious people pay extra if they want special schools.

Out here in lala land lots of mla's send their children to private school , you don't expect them to pay the full freight . do you ?

Do you know what is stupider? Religious people who aren't Catholic attending the public system.

They don't out here , we have Muslim schools , Hindi schools , Sihk schools Jewish schools and probably many more .

 

[petros]

Oh come on. Anyone can get their kid into Mulgrave or Brentwood.

 

[gerryh]

The fact that it hasn't been used thus far means that first, there needs to be a serious issue before any of the provinces decide to use it, and secondly I suspect that any provincial government who intends to use it would have the support of its citizenry. Otherwise, it would be political suicide.

Quebec, as the only provincial government to oppose the charter, passed legislation in 1982 that invoked the clause in every new law, but that stopped in 1985. In 1986, Saskatchewan used the clause to protect back-to-work legislation and Quebec used it again in 1988 to protect residents and businesses using French-only signs

 

[JLM]

That's a stupid idea. Fund one board, let all the religious people pay extra if they want special schools.

Shouldn't a person who decides a private school provides a better education and chooses to send their child there deserve the same Gov't funding as if their kid went to the public school. The private school does after all reduce the pressure and costs of the public school.

 

[TenPenny]

Do you know what is stupider? Religious people who aren't Catholic attending the public system.

'stupider'?


You must have gone to a Catholic school.

Shouldn't a person who decides a private school provides a better education and chooses to send their child there deserve the same Gov't funding as if their kid went to the public school. The private school does after all reduce the pressure and costs of the public school.

No. The public system is there. Use it, or pay for an alternative.

 

[Hoid]

Typical mentalfloss article. 1000 words about nothing, and only 1 sentence about the issue that is vague enough that somoney who hasn't read about it might be left with more questions than it answers.

About nothing?

I believe BC may need to start notwithstanding some pipelines if it comes down to it.

BTW the American constitution may not have a notwithstading clause but it has a 2nd amendment which is paramount to all other laws. It over rules and invalidates all other rights and freedoms.

 

[petros]

'stupider'?


You must have gone to a Catholic school.

Thank God.


Because stupid is a two-syllable word, it's comparative form can be created either by adding the suffix “-er” or by using more.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It's called a preamble, but I've taken no official position on this.

The question still remains as to whether a constitution should have an escape clause like this. And also, whether or not a constitution is a good thing to begin with.

"Official?" Don't flatter yourself.

 

[taxslave]

Personally, I think the gov't should provide public schools, and if a religion wants their own, they should fund it, and if you want your kids to go to a religious school, you should pay out of pocket.


End of story.

Then they should not have to pay school taxes. That is like double jepordy.

 

[TenPenny]

Thank God.


Because stupid is a two-syllable word, it's comparative form can be created either by adding the suffix “-er” or by using more.

Wow, you can cut and paste!

 

[JLM]

No. The public system is there. Use it, or pay for an alternative.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. In some areas a few of the public schools aren't quite up to snuff and quite often the private school is able to provide a better education. So your contention is if a person is able to have a legitimate choice he should have to pay over and above for it!

Then they should not have to pay school taxes. That is like double jepordy.

You got that right! (Some people just don't mind funding mediocrity)