Can Justin Trudeau save the Liberal Party?

Cliffy

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My thought are ALL dirty. No evidence of any washing.
A friend was discussing this the other night. It is her contention that we are all programmed from birth. A few escape the brainwashing process, or at least, the program doesn't work on them. They seem to be immune to it.

What I see is a world in shambles being managed by degrees.
 

petros

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It's controlled chaos. The most creative force man has is destruction. If you want to make something better, you destroy it.

By limiting destruction you limit growth.
 

JLM

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A friend was discussing this the other night. It is her contention that we are all programmed from birth. A few escape the brainwashing process, or at least, the program doesn't work on them. They seem to be immune to it.

What I see is a world in shambles being managed by degrees.

We also have to remember that there is some useful knowledge in those degrees, you can't do yourself any harm by learning something until such time as the learning turns you into an arrogant prick.

It's controlled chaos. The most creative force man has is destruction. If you want to make something better, you destroy it.

By limiting destruction you limit growth.

I think you are bullsh*tting us Petros-:) I've always considered wanton destruction is done by people who lack self esteem or confidence.
 

Cannuck

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No, you should have enough brains for an advanced degree like a masters or better, or you get a law degree to be a good politician. Snot nose Trudeau is a real dumbo, he has neither, he's a loser!! What a useless piece of humanity!!

ROFLMAO...how many politicians have a law degree? How many of them are good politicians?

BTW, Ralph Klein dropped out of High School.
 

petros

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I think you are bullsh*tting us Petros-:) I've always considered wanton destruction is done by people who lack self esteem or confidence.
Creation from cataclysm is very real. Look what it takes to pull iron from rock and the energy and forces and other destroyed minerals to make steel needed to forge something as simple as a nail to build you a house from destroyed trees that one time provided a gorgeous apple that you had to destroy to get the energy from and the tree destroyed more rocked to get minerals to build the apple so and so on.
 

JLM

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Creation from cataclysm is very real. Look what it takes to pull iron from rock and the energy and forces and other destroyed minerals to make steel needed to forge something as simple as a nail to build you a house from destroyed trees that one time provided a gorgeous apple that you had to destroy to get the energy from and the tree destroyed more rocked to get minerals to build the apple so and so on.

The type of "destruction" you are talking about would probably be better described as changing the form. When you turn a tree into lumber are you destroying it or enhancing it?
 

Dixie Cup

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I'm not sure Trudeau is what the Liberals need but who knows? It'd be nice to think people voted for him because he was the best they had and not based on how aesthetically appealing he is, although I'm not convinced that is the case. I'll take boring and, more importantly, competent over good looking every time.

Maybe he'll surprise us with a solid, rational platform, reputable candidates and provide us with a viable alternative to the NDP... wishful thinking?? Think I'll stick with the Cons for now!

JMO
 

JLM

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I'm not sure Trudeau is what the Liberals need but who knows? It'd be nice to think people voted for him because he was the best they had and not based on how aesthetically appealing he is, although I'm not convinced that is the case. I'll take boring and, more importantly, competent over good looking every time.

Maybe he'll surprise us with a solid, rational platform, reputable candidates and provide us with a viable alternative to the NDP... wishful thinking?? Think I'll stick with the Cons for now!

JMO

Joyce (Murray) may have been a better choice! -:)
 

Durry

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I'm not sure Trudeau is what the Liberals need but who knows? It'd be nice to think people voted for him because he was the best they had
The best they had at WHAT?? Hahaha This dummy is a joke!! Just what does he have??? Hahaha no brains, no policies, no opinions, no knowledge,, he essentially has fk all!!

And these stupid Libs voted for him!! Haha now just how stupid can any group get!!! An intelligent group would vote for someone because of the policies and visions of the country being presented by the candidate.
Hahaha, but tell me, what did these stupid Libs vote for?? Haha even they don't know, all they know is they have their peckers up for Trudeau, so they vote for him.. Have you ever seen such stupidity..

They previously had that frenchie run against Harper, then they lost a lot of seats, so they said we have to define what us Liberals stand for. Then they got Iggy, he just flapped his jaws and lost even more seats. They they said again, we have to define what we stand for. Now comes Snot Nose, and guess what,,,,,hahaha,, you guessed it !!!

Oh the stupidity is over whelming, it seems most of it is coming from eastern Canada!!
 

JLM

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The best they had at WHAT?? Hahaha This dummy is a joke!! Just what does he have??? Hahaha no brains, no policies, no opinions, no knowledge,, he essentially has fk all!!

And these stupid Libs voted for him!! Haha now just how stupid can any group get!!! An intelligent group would vote for someone because of the policies and visions of the country being presented by the candidate.
Hahaha, but tell me, what did these stupid Libs vote for?? Haha even they don't know, all they know is they have their peckers up for Trudeau, so they vote for him.. Have you ever seen such stupidity..

They previously had that frenchie run against Harper, then they lost a lot of seats, so they said we have to define what us Liberals stand for. Then they got Iggy, he just flapped his jaws and lost even more seats. They they said again, we have to define what we stand for. Now comes Snot Nose, and guess what,,,,,hahaha,, you guessed it !!!

Oh the stupidity is over whelming, it seems most of it is coming from eastern Canada!!

You already said all that, you might want to give some serious thought as to who you are calling "stupid".

I'm not sure Trudeau is what the Liberals need but who knows? It'd be nice to think people voted for him because he was the best they had and not based on how aesthetically appealing he is, although I'm not convinced that is the case. I'll take boring and, more importantly, competent over good looking every time.

Maybe he'll surprise us with a solid, rational platform, reputable candidates and provide us with a viable alternative to the NDP... wishful thinking?? Think I'll stick with the Cons for now!

JMO

Yep, that was the mistake the voters made with Papa.

We haven't done all that badly with Conservatives!
 

Zipperfish

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The best they had at WHAT?? Hahaha This dummy is a joke!! Just what does he have??? Hahaha no brains, no policies, no opinions, no knowledge,, he essentially has fk all!!

Well, I doubt the LIberals were counting on your vote anyways. :lol:
 

Christianna

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Anyone should be able to do better than Ignatieff, what position are the Liberals in Parliament in again? It remains to be seen just what sort of campaign Trudeau will put on, I'm willing to give him a chance to see how well he can do.
 

Durry

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I'm willing to give him a chance to see how well he can do.
The chance he had was to show what he had before they elected him.

What the Liberals did here was like buying a car, without checking it out, and then hoping its going to work well.. Now just how stupid is that??
 

DaSleeper

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The chance he had was to show what he had before they elected him.

What the Liberals did here was like buying a car, without checking it out, and then hoping its going to work well.. Now just how stupid is that??
Give new meaning to the old colloquialism of buying "a pig in a poke":lol:
 

Zipperfish

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Meh. The same criticisms were leveled against Stephen Harper--didn't have the experience, never had a real job, out of touch with the "common man."

What Trudeau will learn, if he hasn't already, is what Harper learned: that the key to electoral victory is not primarily solid policies. It's party loyalty and PR. The immediate challenge for Trudeau is cracking the whip on his own party nad bringing them into line, and then it will be to craft a message that will appeal to voters.
 
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