BC Liberals make gains, but BC NDP still lead polls in Lower Mainland

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Confidence vote at 5:30PM PT.

"It's not my intention to advise her whether she should call an election. That's her decision," said Clark.

"But here's what I do know: in these conversations between a premier and an LG at moments like this, she will probably will ask me some questions. I've gotta be honest: you've seen what I've seen this week. It isn't working.

"The constitutional experts like to speculate on what has happened, but it is the premier's option to let her make her own decision about this, and that is what I intend to do.

"I am a little bewildered to be honest. I just don't understand precisely what she is saying," said Carleton University constitutional expert Philippe Lagasse.


Lagasse and many others say premiers have only two options when losing a non-confidence vote: to ask for a dissolution, which would trigger an election, or to advise there are parties in the legislature that could provide stable governance.

Judgment Day: B.C. Liberal tactics set up difficult decision for lieutenant-governor - British Columbia - CBC News


Christy Clark is confused about what her job is. Constitutionally, she should advise the LG on whether to have an election. She says she won't, so does that mean the LG will act without the advice of the premier? That's not really supposed to happen.



Constitutional scholars will strain their brains going over what should happen and what might happen, but in the end none of that will matter. The LG will do something and we'll all continue on. If there's an election or an NDP government, we will all forget the LG's role in how we got there.
 

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Confidence vote at 5:30PM PT.

"It's not my intention to advise her whether she should call an election. That's her decision," said Clark.

"But here's what I do know: in these conversations between a premier and an LG at moments like this, she will probably will ask me some questions. I've gotta be honest: you've seen what I've seen this week. It isn't working.

"The constitutional experts like to speculate on what has happened, but it is the premier's option to let her make her own decision about this, and that is what I intend to do.

"I am a little bewildered to be honest. I just don't understand precisely what she is saying," said Carleton University constitutional expert Philippe Lagasse.


Lagasse and many others say premiers have only two options when losing a non-confidence vote: to ask for a dissolution, which would trigger an election, or to advise there are parties in the legislature that could provide stable governance.

Judgment Day: B.C. Liberal tactics set up difficult decision for lieutenant-governor - British Columbia - CBC News


Christy Clark is confused about what her job is. Constitutionally, she should advise the LG on whether to have an election. She says she won't, so does that mean the LG will act without the advice of the premier? That's not really supposed to happen.



Constitutional scholars will strain their brains going over what should happen and what might happen, but in the end none of that will matter. The LG will do something and we'll all continue on. If there's an election or an NDP government, we will all forget the LG's role in how we got there.

If I walk into a restaurant and authorize the waiter to choose my dish for me, I have every right to do so and he then has every right to choose my dish for me. That being said, I then have no right to complain if he orders something I don't like.
 

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If I walk into a restaurant and authorize the waiter to choose my dish for me, I have every right to do so and he then has every right to choose my dish for me. That being said, I then have no right to complain if he orders something I don't like.

Well that was an interesting analogy, WU..........and it has what to with Clark and the LG?

I never thought I would never ever find myself in favor of the NDP and token Greenies running the provinvce- and really I am not. However, if that is what it will take to get rid of CC, then so be it. I am totally done with her.
 

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Well that was an interesting analogy, WU..........and it has what to with Clark and the LG?

I never thought I would never ever find myself in favor of the NDP and token Greenies running the provinvce- and really I am not. However, if that is what it will take to get rid of CC, then so be it. I am totally done with her.

I was just saying that if she has the power to decide whether to call an election or hand power to a different person, then she also has the power to delegate that power to someone else. So yes, she is certainly free to let the LG decide on her behalf.

In fact technically, the LG has that power, but traditionally consults the Primer on the matter.
 

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I was just saying that if she has the power to decide whether to call an election or hand power to a different person, then she also has the power to delegate that power to someone else. So yes, she is certainly free to let the LG decide on her behalf.

In fact technically, the LG has that power, but traditionally consults the Primer on the matter.

Actually you were writing about letting someone else order dinner for you.

The hands of the next government or an election call rests solely in the hands of the Lieutenant Governor.

The lieutenant-governor, therefore, possesses all the formal, prerogative and discretionary powers exercised by the monarch or the governor general. These include the duty to open, prorogue and dissolve the provincial Assembly; to assent to (or withhold assent from) provincial legislation and orders-in-council; and to give prior approval to money bills. The lieutenant-governor also has the responsibility to select the provincial premier and, presumably as a last resort, to dismiss a government.

Lieutenant-Governor - The Canadian Encyclopedia
 

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Right, well the point is that Clark said should wouldn't advise the LG, which is her job, but regardless the LG will have to make a decision. I think it's likely that the only way the LG would call an election is if the premier advises it. In which case, she'd be torn between doing whatever the premier says, as is convention, or exercising her power and ignoring that advice. If Clark doesn't advise her, I think she'd ask John Horgan to form a government.
 

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Right, well the point is that Clark said should wouldn't advise the LG, which is her job, but regardless the LG will have to make a decision. I think it's likely that the only way the LG would call an election is if the premier advises it. In which case, she'd be torn between doing whatever the premier says, as is convention, or exercising her power and ignoring that advice. If Clark doesn't advise her, I think she'd ask John Horgan to form a government.

Probably. Party divisions aren't that important anyway. The question in the end is whether someone has the backing or more than half of Parliamentarians. Floor-crossers could be counted in too if that happens. We'll see.
 

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Right, well the point is that Clark said should wouldn't advise the LG, which is her job, but regardless the LG will have to make a decision. I think it's likely that the only way the LG would call an election is if the premier advises it. In which case, she'd be torn between doing whatever the premier says, as is convention, or exercising her power and ignoring that advice. If Clark doesn't advise her, I think she'd ask John Horgan to form a government.


As Premier it is Clark's job to call an election and advise the Lieutenant Gvr, BUT Horgan and the other idiot don't recognize her as being Premier, so maybe the landscape changes a tad.,
 

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As Premier it is Clark's job to call an election and advise the Lieutenant Gvr, BUT Horgan and the other idiot don't recognize her as being Premier, so maybe the landscape changes a tad.,


Wrong, she doesn't have that right anymore. As has been pointed out, it is entirely in the hands of the LG at this point. The LG can appoint a new Premier or the LG can dissolve the legislature and call an election.

Hopefully the LG makes the right call, new election, and you guys have another shot at doing the right thing and giving the Libs a majority.

Just heard. Good Luck is all I can say.
 

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Horgan is the next Premier of BC. Let the wailing begin. :)


Yeah, there could be a bit of it. He might be a real Asshole! The question I ask is why is he (with 41 seats) any more f**king entitled to be Premier than Christy (with 43 seats) ? As for this Green asshole with his 3 seats what knowledge does he have about running a province. (Hang in there Christy, you'll get it all back)
 

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Everybody is terrified of something and someone they don't know. Nobody is qualified to do any job the first time around but everybody learns. The NDP screwing up in the past has nothing to do with the present party or the people in it. You want people to give that fat lying SOB south of the border a chance but not some home grown guy you don't know. Seems awfully silly to me. I really don't care who is in government as they have little to do with governing. They are just puppets and entertainers to keep you distracted from those who really call the shots. Politics is just a divide and conquer distraction to protect the guilty.
 

JLM

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Wrong, she doesn't have that right anymore. As has been pointed out, it is entirely in the hands of the LG at this point. The LG can appoint a new Premier or the LG can dissolve the legislature and call an election.

Hopefully the LG makes the right call, new election, and you guys have another shot at doing the right thing and giving the Libs a majority.

Just heard. Good Luck is all I can say.


It's totally f**ked now, Gerry. :) but no :) matter!
 

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Everybody is terrified of something and someone they don't know. Nobody is qualified to do any job the first time around but everybody learns. The NDP screwing up in the past has nothing to do with the present party or the people in it. You want people to give that fat lying SOB south of the border a chance but not some home grown guy you don't know. Seems awfully silly to me. I really don't care who is in government as they have little to do with governing. They are just puppets and entertainers to keep you distracted from those who really call the shots. Politics is just a divide and conquer distraction to protect the guilty.

Horgan was part of the dipper disaster of the 90s. So we know what we are getting. Unfortunately in 16 years there is a whole generation of new navel gazers that think history is yesterday's sit coms that they watched today on their PVRs.
 

petros

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Horgan was part of the dipper disaster of the 90s. So we know what we are getting. Unfortunately in 16 years there is a whole generation of new navel gazers that think history is yesterday's sit coms that they watched today on their PVRs.

Just tell them Horgan is going to raise the age of drinking, cigarettes and weed use to 21 because too many kids from Washington are driving while high, drunk and smoking with pets in their cars.