B.P.'s Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Thread (it's all here).....

[AnnaG]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

"This is what I wake up to in the morning and this is what I go to bed at night thinking about ... my job is to get this fixed. ... I take responsibility ... I'm fully engaged," he insisted near the end of his first formal, full-scale White House news conference in almost a year.

Obama makes spill personal, aims to assert control | Reuters

"BP Plc still does not know whether its "top kill" operation designed to plug the biggest oil spill in United States history will be successful and puts the cost of tackling the disaster so far at $930 million."

BP's spill costs hit $930 million | Reuters

It's really stupid to think that any previous administration contributed to the spill. According to any news so far, it was an accident that a device designed to check a leak failed. No, G Dumbya did not leap into a bathyscaphe and go poke a hole in the pipe. No he did not board the Deepwater Horiozon and plant an explosion. I bet he didn't even sabotage the check valve that was supposed to prevent leaks. Totally inane, but I bet liberal hacks would like to blame any and all of humanity's woes on the political side. Foolish to the max.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

After all bush was responsible for Katrina, too. Oh yeah, did I for get to mention that he thought he was God??

He must be if he was responsble for Hurrican Katrina.

Anyway Obama can be blamed for not getting on to BP's case sooner .

His watch... all his fault. ALL. For letting it happen to the slow response. A disaster and he looked the other way.

The golf is a devastating disaster and the Republicans are on record contributing to this disaster, in the 8 years Bush acted as a loose cannon on the deck of a war ship.

The "golf" is a great disaster... Obama let it happen. I wonder if he can fix the "golf".

Obama took a damaged country from the Republicans and that part of history will never change. Imposable to fix 8 years of Republican carelessness in 11/2 years.

Just like 9/11 and Katrina was on Bush's watch... Obama's to blame for this "golf" disaster. And they are predicting a huge hurricane season... that's Obama's fault too. :lol:

It's really stupid to think that any previous administration contributed to the spill. According to any news so far, it was an accident that a device designed to check a leak failed. No, G Dumbya did not leap into a bathyscaphe and go poke a hole in the pipe. No he did not board the Deepwater Horiozon and plant an explosion. I bet he didn't even sabotage the check valve that was supposed to prevent leaks. Totally inane, but I bet liberal hacks would like to blame any and all of humanity's woes on the political side. Foolish to the max.

Are you sure? Do you have proof that Dubya didn't do this. It is up to you to prove it. :lol:

 

[AnnaG]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

He must be if he was responsble for Hurrican Katrina.



His watch... all his fault. ALL. For letting it happen to the slow response. A disaster and he looked the other way.



The "golf" is a great disaster... Obama let it happen. I wonder if he can fix the "golf".



Just like 9/11 and Katrina was on Bush's watch... Obama's to blame for this "golf" disaster. And they are predicting a huge hurricane season... that's Obama's fault too. :lol:



Are you sure? Do you have proof that Dubya didn't do this. It is up to you to prove it. :lol:

Funny. I thought 9/11 n stuff was Clinton's fault because Soc seems to believe any nasty thing that happens is the fault of the previous admin.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Obama is geting shallacked by the repulbicans, from the day the spill happened.

Republicans! lol. Try the whole country. What do you think he was whinning for yesterday and then he brings hid daughter into the picture.

The official Republican Party line (as propounded by Limbaugh and other republicans) is that Obama caused the spill and wants it to extend as far as possible, wants it to do maximum possible damage, so that he may be able to ban any further offshore drilling.

And who was the silly houseboy that said the Republicans want to make Alaska look like Mordor?

Now Obama has factually made the Louisiana coast look like Mordor.

And yes, it was definitely under Bush's watch, he gave BP the permission to drill.

Nope. Obama's on the hot seat. You know it...I know it...the world knows it. Why else would he be up on stage answering to it. He's the Captain of the country's worst oil spill ever.

 

[AnnaG]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Well, blame whichever politician you want to, guys, but IMO, it was the fault whoever neglected to make sure the check valve worked properly and whoever caused the explosion. The rig didn't fail so it can't be the Swiss company. BP was renting it to get the oil it wanted, so its responsibility was to extract the oil safely. It didn't do that.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Republicans! lol. Try the whole country. What do you think he was whinning for yesterday and then he brings hid daughter into the picture.



And who was the silly houseboy that said the Republicans want to make Alaska look like Mordor?

Now Obama has factually made the Louisiana coast look like Mordor.



Nope. Obama's on the hot seat. You know it...I know it...the world knows it. Why else would he be up on stage answering to it. He's the Captain of the country's worst oil spill ever.

Tipical Conservative Republican CRAP. How is it that 8 years of sloppy Bush Republican Government is not responsible for not regulating an industry that was a matter of time to create such a hireable devastation. Never mind throwing rocks at a guy who came into the political landscape (Obama) after the huge damage inflicted by a bunch that had no vision. Any one blaming Obama for Bush’s dismal Government is blind, self serving, and out to lunch.8O:roll:

Quoting AnnaG
It's really stupid to think that any previous administration contributed to the spill. According to any news so far, it was an accident that a device designed to check a leak failed. No, G Dumbya did not leap into a bathyscaphe and go poke a hole in the pipe. No he did not board the Deepwater Horiozon and plant an explosion. I bet he didn't even sabotage the check valve that was supposed to prevent leaks. Totally inane, but I bet liberal hacks would like to blame any and all of humanity's woes on the political side. Foolish to the max.


What real crap is that.............................................previous administration DID contributed to the spill. BP is on record taking short cuts, and had A BETTER ADMINISTRATION BEEN IN PLACE THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. Wake up....
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[AnnaG]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Tipical Conservative Republican CRAP. How is it that 8 years of sloppy Bush Republican Government is not responsible for not regulating an industry that was a matter of time to create such a hireable devastation. Never mind throwing rocks at a guy who came into the political landscape (Obama) after the huge damage inflicted by a bunch that had no vision. Any one blaming Obama for Bush’s dismal Government is blind, self serving, and out to lunch.8O:roll:

Quoting AnnaG
It's really stupid to think that any previous administration contributed to the spill. According to any news so far, it was an accident that a device designed to check a leak failed. No, G Dumbya did not leap into a bathyscaphe and go poke a hole in the pipe. No he did not board the Deepwater Horiozon and plant an explosion. I bet he didn't even sabotage the check valve that was supposed to prevent leaks. Totally inane, but I bet liberal hacks would like to blame any and all of humanity's woes on the political side. Foolish to the max.​

What real crap is that.............................................previous administration DID contributed to the spill. BP is on record taking short cuts, and had A BETTER ADMINISTRATION BEEN IN PLACE THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. Wake up....​

Obama has had plenty of time to rearrange the regulations. Why didn't he?
He was going to allow even more oilworks in the gulf instead. Wouldn't that just have added to the risk?
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[Socrates the Greek]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Obama has had plenty of time to rearrange the regulations. Why didn't he?
He was going to allow even more oilworks in the gulf instead. Wouldn't that just have added to the risk?
.

15 months to repair the financial damage hardly allows time to go to the ken, let alone to repair and insure safe guards. Where did you learn Greek?

 

[AnnaG]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

15 months to repair the financial damage hardly allows time to go to the ken, let alone to repair and insure safe guards.

In case you hadn't noticed, there are more people in the US administration than just the Big O. I'm pretty sure that presidents delegate stuff a lot. In this case regulation would be the domain of Interior Department’s Minerals Management Service

Where did you learn Greek?

lol I know about two Greek words that aren't related to food. I just took a guess as to which one was which. I could have said "tuvalet" just as easily.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

The golf is a devastating disaster and the Republicans are on record contributing to this disaster, in the 8 years Bush acted as a loose cannon on the deck of a war ship.

Obama took a damaged country from the Republicans and that part of history will never change. Imposable to fix 8 years of Republican carelessness in 11/2 years.

The official Republican Party line (as explained by Limbaugh shortly after the disaster) is that Obama caused the spill and wants it to spread as far as possible, wants it to do as much damage as possible, so that it will give him an excuse to ban offshore drilling.

Republicans! lol. Try the whole country. What do you think he was whinning for yesterday and then he brings hid daughter into the picture.

So are you saying that the whole country beleives that Obama caused the spill and wants it to do as much damage as possible? Do you have any weblink for this assertion, besides the communique from your Central (Republican) Politburo?

And who was the silly houseboy that said the Republicans want to make Alaska look like Mordor?

That is true, but now their voices will be muted, at least for a short while, because of the disaster. Even though Republicans claim that Obama caused the disaster, American people blame BP for it, I don't know why. After all big business couldn't be guilty, could it? heaven forbid. A natural constituency of the Republican Party could not possibly be guilt,y so it is logical for Republicans to blame Obama for it, and not BP.

Nope. Obama's on the hot seat. You know it...I know it...the world knows it. Why else would he be up on stage answering to it. He's the Captain of the country's worst oil spill ever.

Quite so, that is the official Republican Party line, that Obama caused the spill and wants it to do maximum possible damage. It remains to be seen if American people swallow it.

Tipical Conservative Republican CRAP. How is it that 8 years of sloppy Bush Republican Government is not responsible for not regulating an industry that was a matter of time to create such a hireable devastation. Never mind throwing rocks at a guy who came into the political landscape (Obama) after the huge damage inflicted by a bunch that had no vision. Any one blaming Obama for Bush’s dismal Government is blind, self serving, and out to lunch.8O:roll:

Indeed, the finger of blame points to one source and one source only, Bush and the Republicans. They probably did not inquire as to what safeguards BP had in place, they permitted BP to cut corners, in their eyes, big business can do no wrong.

That is why they tried to block the Financial Sector reform from being passed, they were protecting the big business. And the fact that Republicans here are blaming Obama for causing the spill, and not blaming BP is part of the same pattern.

It remains to be seen if American people swallow the propaganda that Obama caused the spill, and that BP is blameless in the matter.

Anyway, it is amusing to see conservatives here blaming Obama for causing the oil spill, claiming that Obama caused the spill and thereby implying that BP is blameless in the matter.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Stick it. Obama has had plenty of time to rearrange the regulations. Why didn't he?
He was going to allow even more oilworks in the gulf instead. Wouldn't that just have added to the risk?
.

Exactly Anna. What was it... two months ago he opened up more of the Virginian and Alaskan coastline for offshore drilling. Now his diciples are trying to make him an unknowing victim of the Evil Bush.

LOL

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

The official Republican Party line (as explained by Limbaugh shortly after the disaster) is that Obama caused the spill and wants it to spread as far as possible, wants it to do as much damage as possible, so that it will give him an excuse to ban offshore drilling.


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And boy is he taking a beating on all the networks! Wow. I wouldn't want to be the President of that mess.

Obama's watch... Obama's fault. Just like Bush and Katrina.

Ain't Karma great?

 

[AnnaG]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Like I said before, I don't think it is any politician's fault. They may be incompetent and foolish, but I don't think they (most of them anyway) act to do harm.
Having said that, WW2 was Roosevelt and Truman's fault.

 

[lone wolf]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Gee-zuz! It wasn't the right. It wasn't the left. It was because somebody poked a hole into a pressure-cooker pool of oil a hell of a lot deeper under the water than many have experience with.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

So... Obama and this disaster of his making...

Discuss...

:lol:

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Gee-zuz! It wasn't the right. It wasn't the left. It was because somebody poked a hole into a pressure-cooker pool of oil a hell of a lot deeper under the water than many have experience with.

I know that Wolf...

I love playing the Devil's Advocate and feeding them their own medicine.

 

[lone wolf]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

I know that Wolf...

I love playing the Devil's Advocate and feeding them their own medicine.

I figured you did. I aimed it at the deny-for-the-sake-of-denial-'cuz-I-hate-being-wrong crowd.

 

[Cliffy]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

It's god's fault for putting it there in the first place. He knew man would be curious enough to try to get at it and that it would end in disaster. He knows everything after all! ;-)

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

I know that Wolf...

I love playing the Devil's Advocate and feeding them their own medicine.

You are not playing Devil’s anything, EagelSmack. You have swallowed the propaganda hook line and sinker, that Obama caused the spill and want it to cause maximum damage possible.

 

[AnnaG]

Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

It's god's fault for putting it there in the first place. He knew man would be curious enough to try to get at it and that it would end in disaster. He knows everything after all! ;-)

Yeah. Nail the culprits at the top of everything.