Atheist must swear to God -- or leave US Air Force

EagleSmack

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Do I?
I do admit to worshiping the sun because I hate cold.

I didn't think you did.

Cliffy does. The intolerant tool gets off on bashing Christians and you can find him beating a drum and smudging AND greeting the sun on solstices with other pagans.
 

DaSleeper

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Most "Christians" don't give it a second thought when they swear an oath....

Who would have thought that an Atheist to be so easily offended..

To me it not who I swear to, It's giving my word that means something
 

Cliffy

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I court (divorce) they asked me to swear on the bible. I said it would be meaningless for me to do that, but I would swear on my mother's grave. The court accepted that. That was back in the 70s. My mother was still alive at the time. I thought swearing was forbidden in the bible.

How 'bout "Insh'Allah?"
Or Wankan Tonka?
 

Twila

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What's ridiculous is that an avowed atheist that does not believe in a (any) Gods has a problem with swearing an oath to an entity that he believes is fictional.

Doesn't quite make sense, does it MF

Another way to look at it is that they want their oath to mean something and to pledge that oath to something they believe doesn't exist takes away the gravity with which they pledge that oath. Sort of like if they were asked to swear an oath on Big Bird or Unicorns.
 

coldstream

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The U.S. Legal system allows people to give sworn testimony or to make oaths.. by swearing to God.. or by affirmation.. which has the same weight. I'm sure it applies to the U.S. military as well.
 

tay

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Air Force nixes ‘God’ oath for atheists






The Air Force announced on Thursday that the words “so help me God” were an optional part of the oath after an atheist airman crossed out the words on his reenlistment paperwork. Military officials had initially refused to accept the paperwork, but Department of Defense General Counsel eventually ruled that the words could be omitted.




TV preacher Pat Robertson lashed out at a “Jewish radical” on Thursday who he said was responsible for God being removed from the Air Force oath.










www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMIZAUrbyJM&feature=player_embedded
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Aside from the complete lack of evidence and totally illogical silliness of religion, one of the surest proofs for me that it's all a pile of buffalo chips is the simple fact that there's no discernible difference in the conduct of religious people and organisations and that of non-religious people and organisations.

What the heck you doing up at this hour anyhow, Bart?
 

El Barto

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Aside from the complete lack of evidence and totally illogical silliness of religion, one of the surest proofs for me that it's all a pile of buffalo chips is the simple fact that there's no discernible difference in the conduct of religious people and organisations and that of non-religious people and organisations.

What the heck you doing up at this hour anyhow, Bart?
I love my coffee and i take a couple of hours to enjoy it before going to work :)
My indian name is Morning Wood
I am an early riser


ok off to work :)